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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 29 2014 12:36 GMT
#14981
Those last seconds was... strange
EZ4ENCE
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 29 2014 12:37 GMT
#14982
On November 29 2014 21:35 Kotreb wrote:
So what did the thorin/scoots say about the whole situation?


Starting from the hour mark

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackcs/b/593883860
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 29 2014 12:40 GMT
#14983
I THINK I JUST SAW IBRAHIMOVIC BEHIND OF NIP
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 29 2014 12:41 GMT
#14984
Taz and Snax fuvked that u p
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
November 29 2014 12:41 GMT
#14985
On November 29 2014 21:34 Faruko wrote:


and there it is


Somehow I'm not surprised.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 29 2014 12:43 GMT
#14986
NIP won nuke

gege go next
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 29 2014 12:46 GMT
#14987
Swedes are so good.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 12:48:56
November 29 2014 12:46 GMT
#14988
On November 29 2014 20:03 Nesserev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 18:53 AsnSensation wrote:
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?

I think it's 16h30 local time. You can check the times on cs go reddit on the right side.

I wonder if fnatic was aware of the 'immortal' and 'transparent texture' bugs. When you use the position, it's not immediately apparent that you can't be shot at from certain angles. I think fnatic thought it was a legit strategy and weren't aware of these flaws. (Or they were total scumbags and were hoping that they could get away with it.) I doubt that they tested it extensively from the "other team's perspective", would you?

I think Dreamhack made the right decisions in the end, as the second half definitely had to be replayed. Fnatic played their cards right in the end, and got a whole map out of it, they basically forced it upon Dreamhack. It does feel a bit unfair because the difference between the amount of exploitation on both sides was so big, and LDLC was worthy of that 12-3 lead, but the biggest concern is to have a fair and square tournament, hence the decision to play the whole map anew (in a more fair environment) is the best.

The more glaring issue is Flusha obviously using the aimlock hack. I don't like to partake in witch hunting, but seriously... he uses it in live tournaments with thousands of people observing every move, and doesn't even try to hide it.

He is not cheating. I've yet to see any gifs / clips of the DH tournament where flusha cheats. All of the ones i've seen are clearly people trying to witchhunt and have very little to them other than coincidence.
And i am not saying the gifs we saw last week are not fishy because those are. But people are trying way too hard to find something now.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 12:47:24
November 29 2014 12:47 GMT
#14989
Seems VP has no idea what they should be doing. Their outdoor push has worked twice now and they still lose by pushing upper.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
November 29 2014 12:47 GMT
#14990
On November 29 2014 21:37 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 21:35 Kotreb wrote:
So what did the thorin/scoots say about the whole situation?


Starting from the hour mark

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackcs/b/593883860

Thank you very much :D
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 29 2014 12:47 GMT
#14991
On November 29 2014 21:43 Grettin wrote:
NIP won nuke

gege go next

not so fast and thats a free auto sniper
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
November 29 2014 12:48 GMT
#14992
On November 29 2014 21:46 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 20:03 Nesserev wrote:
On November 29 2014 18:53 AsnSensation wrote:
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?

I think it's 16h30 local time. You can check the times on cs go reddit on the right side.

I wonder if fnatic was aware of the 'immortal' and 'transparent texture' bugs. When you use the position, it's not immediately apparent that you can't be shot at from certain angles. I think fnatic thought it was a legit strategy and weren't aware of these flaws. (Or they were total scumbags and were hoping that they could get away with it.) I doubt that they tested it extensively from the "other team's perspective", would you?

I think Dreamhack made the right decisions in the end, as the second half definitely had to be replayed. Fnatic played their cards right in the end, and got a whole map out of it, they basically forced it upon Dreamhack. It does feel a bit unfair because the difference between the amount of exploitation on both sides was so big, and LDLC was worthy of that 12-3 lead, but the biggest concern is to have a fair and square tournament, hence the decision to play the whole map anew (in a more fair environment) is the best.

The more glaring issue is Flusha obviously using the aimlock hack. I don't like to partake in witch hunting, but seriously... he uses it in live tournaments with thousands of people observing every move, and doesn't even try to hide it.

He is not cheating. I've yet to see any gifs / clips of the DH tournament where flusha cheats. All of the ones i've seen are clearly people trying to witchhunt and have very little to them other than coincidence.
And i am not saying the gifs we saw last week are no fishy because those are. But people are trying way too hard to find something now.

Yeah, his cursor just happens to snap to the head of an enemy he can't see or possibly hear even when he has teammates covering the route they'd come from. Nothing fishy at all.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 29 2014 12:49 GMT
#14993
On November 29 2014 21:47 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 21:43 Grettin wrote:
NIP won nuke

gege go next

not so fast and thats a free auto sniper


Indeed. Two solid wins by VP now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
November 29 2014 12:51 GMT
#14994
On November 29 2014 21:46 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 20:03 Nesserev wrote:
On November 29 2014 18:53 AsnSensation wrote:
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?

I think it's 16h30 local time. You can check the times on cs go reddit on the right side.

I wonder if fnatic was aware of the 'immortal' and 'transparent texture' bugs. When you use the position, it's not immediately apparent that you can't be shot at from certain angles. I think fnatic thought it was a legit strategy and weren't aware of these flaws. (Or they were total scumbags and were hoping that they could get away with it.) I doubt that they tested it extensively from the "other team's perspective", would you?

I think Dreamhack made the right decisions in the end, as the second half definitely had to be replayed. Fnatic played their cards right in the end, and got a whole map out of it, they basically forced it upon Dreamhack. It does feel a bit unfair because the difference between the amount of exploitation on both sides was so big, and LDLC was worthy of that 12-3 lead, but the biggest concern is to have a fair and square tournament, hence the decision to play the whole map anew (in a more fair environment) is the best.

The more glaring issue is Flusha obviously using the aimlock hack. I don't like to partake in witch hunting, but seriously... he uses it in live tournaments with thousands of people observing every move, and doesn't even try to hide it.

He is not cheating. I've yet to see any gifs / clips of the DH tournament where flusha cheats. All of the ones i've seen are clearly people trying to witchhunt and have very little to them other than coincidence.
And i am not saying the gifs we saw last week are not fishy because those are. But people are trying way too hard to find something now.

I'm more inclined that he is cheating, but concerning these gifs from DH i have to agree with you. Only one looks suspicious, the rest are just...meh.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 12:51:30
November 29 2014 12:51 GMT
#14995
On November 29 2014 21:48 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 21:46 Roggay wrote:
On November 29 2014 20:03 Nesserev wrote:
On November 29 2014 18:53 AsnSensation wrote:
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?

I think it's 16h30 local time. You can check the times on cs go reddit on the right side.

I wonder if fnatic was aware of the 'immortal' and 'transparent texture' bugs. When you use the position, it's not immediately apparent that you can't be shot at from certain angles. I think fnatic thought it was a legit strategy and weren't aware of these flaws. (Or they were total scumbags and were hoping that they could get away with it.) I doubt that they tested it extensively from the "other team's perspective", would you?

I think Dreamhack made the right decisions in the end, as the second half definitely had to be replayed. Fnatic played their cards right in the end, and got a whole map out of it, they basically forced it upon Dreamhack. It does feel a bit unfair because the difference between the amount of exploitation on both sides was so big, and LDLC was worthy of that 12-3 lead, but the biggest concern is to have a fair and square tournament, hence the decision to play the whole map anew (in a more fair environment) is the best.

The more glaring issue is Flusha obviously using the aimlock hack. I don't like to partake in witch hunting, but seriously... he uses it in live tournaments with thousands of people observing every move, and doesn't even try to hide it.

He is not cheating. I've yet to see any gifs / clips of the DH tournament where flusha cheats. All of the ones i've seen are clearly people trying to witchhunt and have very little to them other than coincidence.
And i am not saying the gifs we saw last week are no fishy because those are. But people are trying way too hard to find something now.

Yeah, his cursor just happens to snap to the head of an enemy he can't see or possibly hear even when he has teammates covering the route they'd come from. Nothing fishy at all.

Snapping is a very big word. To me he was just swiping and his cursor happened to hover in the general direction of someone.

Plus, people are forgetting that the security around the whole cheat thing is pretty high at dreamhack. You would have to go extremely far to actually cheat. And it would be a suicide to do so when everyone is scrutinizing you to begin with.
Furthermore, who would be stupid enough to allow your cheat to track through walls after all the discussions that happened those last weeks.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 29 2014 12:53 GMT
#14996
On November 29 2014 21:51 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 21:48 Daralii wrote:
On November 29 2014 21:46 Roggay wrote:
On November 29 2014 20:03 Nesserev wrote:
On November 29 2014 18:53 AsnSensation wrote:
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?

I think it's 16h30 local time. You can check the times on cs go reddit on the right side.

I wonder if fnatic was aware of the 'immortal' and 'transparent texture' bugs. When you use the position, it's not immediately apparent that you can't be shot at from certain angles. I think fnatic thought it was a legit strategy and weren't aware of these flaws. (Or they were total scumbags and were hoping that they could get away with it.) I doubt that they tested it extensively from the "other team's perspective", would you?

I think Dreamhack made the right decisions in the end, as the second half definitely had to be replayed. Fnatic played their cards right in the end, and got a whole map out of it, they basically forced it upon Dreamhack. It does feel a bit unfair because the difference between the amount of exploitation on both sides was so big, and LDLC was worthy of that 12-3 lead, but the biggest concern is to have a fair and square tournament, hence the decision to play the whole map anew (in a more fair environment) is the best.

The more glaring issue is Flusha obviously using the aimlock hack. I don't like to partake in witch hunting, but seriously... he uses it in live tournaments with thousands of people observing every move, and doesn't even try to hide it.

He is not cheating. I've yet to see any gifs / clips of the DH tournament where flusha cheats. All of the ones i've seen are clearly people trying to witchhunt and have very little to them other than coincidence.
And i am not saying the gifs we saw last week are no fishy because those are. But people are trying way too hard to find something now.

Yeah, his cursor just happens to snap to the head of an enemy he can't see or possibly hear even when he has teammates covering the route they'd come from. Nothing fishy at all.

Snapping is a very big word. To me he was just swiping and his cursor happened to hover in the general direction of someone.

Plus, people are forgetting that the security around the whole cheat thing is pretty high at dreamhack. You would have to go extremely far to actually cheat. And it would be a suicide to do so when everyone is scrutinizing you to begin with.
Furthermore, who would be stupid enough to allow your cheat to track through walls after all the discussions that happened those last weeks.

Consider how much CSGO has been growing recently and with all drama going around, I'm 99% certain that Valve took extra precaustions before this event
EZ4ENCE
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
November 29 2014 12:54 GMT
#14997
Come on VP, close this out
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 29 2014 12:55 GMT
#14998
On November 29 2014 21:53 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 21:51 Roggay wrote:
On November 29 2014 21:48 Daralii wrote:
On November 29 2014 21:46 Roggay wrote:
On November 29 2014 20:03 Nesserev wrote:
On November 29 2014 18:53 AsnSensation wrote:
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?

I think it's 16h30 local time. You can check the times on cs go reddit on the right side.

I wonder if fnatic was aware of the 'immortal' and 'transparent texture' bugs. When you use the position, it's not immediately apparent that you can't be shot at from certain angles. I think fnatic thought it was a legit strategy and weren't aware of these flaws. (Or they were total scumbags and were hoping that they could get away with it.) I doubt that they tested it extensively from the "other team's perspective", would you?

I think Dreamhack made the right decisions in the end, as the second half definitely had to be replayed. Fnatic played their cards right in the end, and got a whole map out of it, they basically forced it upon Dreamhack. It does feel a bit unfair because the difference between the amount of exploitation on both sides was so big, and LDLC was worthy of that 12-3 lead, but the biggest concern is to have a fair and square tournament, hence the decision to play the whole map anew (in a more fair environment) is the best.

The more glaring issue is Flusha obviously using the aimlock hack. I don't like to partake in witch hunting, but seriously... he uses it in live tournaments with thousands of people observing every move, and doesn't even try to hide it.

He is not cheating. I've yet to see any gifs / clips of the DH tournament where flusha cheats. All of the ones i've seen are clearly people trying to witchhunt and have very little to them other than coincidence.
And i am not saying the gifs we saw last week are no fishy because those are. But people are trying way too hard to find something now.

Yeah, his cursor just happens to snap to the head of an enemy he can't see or possibly hear even when he has teammates covering the route they'd come from. Nothing fishy at all.

Snapping is a very big word. To me he was just swiping and his cursor happened to hover in the general direction of someone.

Plus, people are forgetting that the security around the whole cheat thing is pretty high at dreamhack. You would have to go extremely far to actually cheat. And it would be a suicide to do so when everyone is scrutinizing you to begin with.
Furthermore, who would be stupid enough to allow your cheat to track through walls after all the discussions that happened those last weeks.

Consider how much CSGO has been growing recently and with all drama going around, I'm 99% certain that Valve took extra precaustions before this event

Dreamhack did, and they are all public.
No phones, cfgs have to be sent before the tourny, no internet on the computers, no access to steam cloud, mouse, keyboards and headsets have to be validated (some mouses where banned) etc..
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
November 29 2014 12:56 GMT
#14999
Did anyone else noticed that only forest uses "proper" chair? :D the rest are sitting on a folding chairs.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 29 2014 12:57 GMT
#15000
i dont know how to feel about the CZ

on one side i love that you have a better chance with eco rounds, but on the other side sometimes i feel like that little weapon gives a little too much of a chance
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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