|
On November 29 2014 14:33 Djzapz wrote:
I think it's Valve's job to fix these things. To me, if something can be done in matchmaking without cheating, it's fair game in tournaments and Valve should fix the shit. Perhaps an unpopular opinion but yeah, whatever.
I agree in general. Some bugs are so broken that they ruin the game when they are used though. I don't think what was used in this game falls into that category. Just as siege tank dropping in SC:BW on spots that the enemy can't attack (from the ground) wasn't against the rules.
If there isn't a specific rule against "pixel walking" in this event then the first complaint should have been thrown out and the game result stand. I based earlier arguing on that rule being there and fnatic breaking a rule.
|
On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
Now that you mention it, it is actually what I also get a feeling about
|
Typical Dreamhack. Incompetent as always.
|
Replaying the whole map is bullshit. Either start at 12-3 or remove rounds where each team abused. Same penalty for boosting on a spot on GR and looking one exit being unkillable (while not event shooting), and abusing whole half and seeing all the map? Worst admin decision ever. And that's coming from a tournament admin.
|
On November 29 2014 16:36 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
Now that you mention it, it is actually what I also get a feeling about
An interesting difference here is that navi were fan favorites up against the faceless chinese enemy. Whereas here fnatic have little to no leeway with the community due to their current reputation. I wonder how these two incidents would've panned out with different/reversed teams.
|
This is so unfair, I want to throw up right now.
|
The only way i can see fnatic coming out of this not terribly, is if after winning 3 rounds as T they just afk/shoot each other for the rest of the half.
|
On November 29 2014 16:45 Grettin wrote:
Typical Dreamhack. Incompetent as always.
Agreed. They should have stood by the HLTV tweet during the game that no rules were broken.
The stuff they are talking about now is so minuscule that they can't enforce them in other games.
|
Smells like bullshits. I'm not surprised tho. I cheered for fnatic but now I hope ldlc stomps them.
So why does the dh bracket show fnatic advancing 2-1? I thought the match wasn't played yet.
|
On November 29 2014 13:55 trifecta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
except fountain hooking was a known bug way before ti3 and dh had forbidden illegal boosting in previous tournaments.
Was it? I can't recall anything about fountain hooking pre-TI3
|
On November 29 2014 16:36 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
Now that you mention it, it is actually what I also get a feeling about
At least LDLC gets a rematch, more than TF got unfortunately. To make it even worse valve goes and patches it after the tournament dispelling all the BS about it being intended.
On November 29 2014 17:47 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 13:55 trifecta wrote:On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
except fountain hooking was a known bug way before ti3 and dh had forbidden illegal boosting in previous tournaments. Was it? I can't recall anything about fountain hooking pre-TI3
Yip it was a known bug basically since TI, one of the things that made Dendi pudge more famous.
|
Netherlands45349 Posts
The difference being that there was no TI bookrule that said you can't fountain hook, I thought it was fucking bullshit but it was within the rules of the game.
|
On November 29 2014 17:47 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 13:55 trifecta wrote:On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
except fountain hooking was a known bug way before ti3 and dh had forbidden illegal boosting in previous tournaments. Was it? I can't recall anything about fountain hooking pre-TI3
It was way back in Dota 1.
|
Well the problem with it in DOta 2 was that the hook became invisible when you get recalled so it made it infinitely more powerful but yes there was nothing in the rulebook saying you couldn't do it as dota 2 was so buggy(Still is) that it's impossible to rule out every bug. Hell enfeeble working on Sylla bear's bear was a bug that had huge impact on the game and has since been incorporated into it.
|
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
this decision is fucking silly. Should have just replayed 2nd half...
|
On November 29 2014 17:47 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 13:55 trifecta wrote:On November 29 2014 13:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what this whole discussion starts to remind?
Na'Vi's Pudge-Chen against TongFu and reactions at that time.
:D
except fountain hooking was a known bug way before ti3 and dh had forbidden illegal boosting in previous tournaments. Was it? I can't recall anything about fountain hooking pre-TI3
Happened in this small tournament called Dreamhack Winter 2012. (Navi vs aL)
|
|
|
So fnatic does something which isn't against the rules (and which LDLC even did themselves!) and everyone hates on them. When Navi turns around a game using fountain hooks though, people think it's awesome...
As far as I can see the original result should stand.
|
When 's the rematch today in CEST time?
|
On November 29 2014 18:52 126Q;A1 wrote:
So fnatic does something which isn't against the rules (and which LDLC even did themselves!) and everyone hates on them. When Navi turns around a game using fountain hooks though, people think it's awesome...
As far as I can see the original result should stand.
What the hell are you even talking about.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
