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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
November 28 2014 20:21 GMT
#14621
On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity?


Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 20:22:22
November 28 2014 20:21 GMT
#14622
On November 29 2014 05:21 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity?


Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it.

It's disgusting when people let cheating pass when it's "entertaining".

I thought I would never see this day on TL.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 28 2014 20:22 GMT
#14623
Is edward a viking?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
November 28 2014 20:22 GMT
#14624
Fuck Fnatic. That is all.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7595 Posts
November 28 2014 20:22 GMT
#14625
Is Lurppis trolling or is he 100% convinced Fnatic are hacking? https://twitter.com/lurppis_
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 20:23:55
November 28 2014 20:22 GMT
#14626
On November 29 2014 05:22 Steveling wrote:
Is edward a viking?

russian viking game of throne character confirmed
On November 29 2014 05:22 Slardar wrote:
Is Lurppis trolling or is he 100% convinced Fnatic are hacking? https://twitter.com/lurppis_

he is serious like he should be
majority of nip, c9, vp, ldlc are sure flusha/olof are cheating
bisu
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12079 Posts
November 28 2014 20:23 GMT
#14627
On November 29 2014 05:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:21 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity?


Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it.

It's bad when people let cheating pass when it's "entertaining".


I judge twitch content by how much I enjoy watching it. I enjoyed this more than the average CS GO. Sure it breaks the rules, doesn't mean I enjoy it less, just that I find the rules in the way of my enjoyment.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
November 28 2014 20:23 GMT
#14628
On November 29 2014 05:22 Steveling wrote:
Is edward a viking?

LOL, could be.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8735 Posts
November 28 2014 20:23 GMT
#14629
On November 29 2014 05:20 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote:
Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S


If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating.

does that matters in the upcoming decision ?


Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely.


I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no

it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it

(i know, bad example, but follows the same rule)

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.


but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"...

They knew about it for 2 months

devilwalk said it


yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful.

People went into HAMMER to check, there isn't a ledge on the column. It's pixel walking.


haha nobody is disputing that at this point.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
November 28 2014 20:24 GMT
#14630
On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote:
Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S


If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating.

does that matters in the upcoming decision ?


Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely.


I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no

it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it

(i know, bad example, but follows the same rule)

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.


but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"...

They knew about it for 2 months

devilwalk said it


yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful.

What would an argument from Fnatic as to their not knowing that the exploit was pixel walking look like? Seriously, what would that actually look like? It is abundantly clear after looking at one still image that there is no ledge; given that Fnatic and its players have known about this maneuver for 2 months, how exactly are they to feign ignorance? "Oh, we thought there was a ledge there," just ain't gonna cut it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
November 28 2014 20:24 GMT
#14631
On November 29 2014 05:23 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:21 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity?


Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it.

It's bad when people let cheating pass when it's "entertaining".


I judge twitch content by how much I enjoy watching it. I enjoyed this more than the average CS GO. Sure it breaks the rules, doesn't mean I enjoy it less, just that I find the rules in the way of my enjoyment.

Everything is right in this world, so you're in minority and should feel bad.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 28 2014 20:24 GMT
#14632
Honestly with all the drama over the VAC bans this is one of the worst things that could happen. We needed this tournament to go off with no drama instead of this shit.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 28 2014 20:25 GMT
#14633
On November 29 2014 05:24 Numy wrote:
Honestly with all the drama over the VAC bans this is one of the worst things that could happen. We needed this tournament to go off with no drama instead of this shit.


don't pretend you aren't rock hard over the drama

anything that drums up interest in the tournament is good
Zerg for Life
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 28 2014 20:25 GMT
#14634
On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote:
Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S


If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating.

does that matters in the upcoming decision ?


Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely.


I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no

it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it

(i know, bad example, but follows the same rule)

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.


but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"...

They knew about it for 2 months

devilwalk said it


yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful.

how about the fact that it basically got them wallhack on some spots??? dont you think they might have suspected that to have been ILLEGAL? Fnatic is filled with fucking scumbags it seems
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 28 2014 20:25 GMT
#14635
I love how people accusing flusha for having aimlock or smh on LAN tournament R O F L.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 28 2014 20:26 GMT
#14636
On November 29 2014 05:24 Numy wrote:
Honestly with all the drama over the VAC bans this is one of the worst things that could happen. We needed this tournament to go off with no drama instead of this shit.

The numbers are better than ever (i think?), if anything all this drama actually helped tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
November 28 2014 20:26 GMT
#14637
People went to check in Hammer, there is no ledge, the rule books says pixel walking is not allowed, I don't understand the rest of the conversation.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
November 28 2014 20:26 GMT
#14638
On November 29 2014 05:24 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote:
Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S


If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating.

does that matters in the upcoming decision ?


Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely.


I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no

it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it

(i know, bad example, but follows the same rule)

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.


but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"...

They knew about it for 2 months

devilwalk said it


yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful.

What would an argument from Fnatic as to their not knowing that the exploit was pixel walking look like? Seriously, what would that actually look like? It is abundantly clear after looking at one still image that there is no ledge; given that Fnatic and its players have known about this maneuver for 2 months, how exactly are they to feign ignorance? "Oh, we thought there was a ledge there," just ain't gonna cut it.


They could say they didn't look at the tournament rules.
apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
November 28 2014 20:26 GMT
#14639
that flusha gif. its so blatant im almost starting to believe its just a series of 1 in a million random chances. bleh.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 28 2014 20:26 GMT
#14640
On November 29 2014 05:19 ramon wrote:
some more interesting gifs: http://gfycat.com/HighHandsomeFreshwatereel#

I really dont see ANYTHING suspicious on that gif. He wasn't even snapping hard. Pure coincidence.

Beside, cheating at this dreamhack would be suicide.

1: They took a TON of measures to prevent it. Including banning phones, banning access to steamcloud, having to provide the cfg beforehand, disallowing some mouse because of storage capabilities etc...

2: Who would be stupid enough to configure his cheat to track people through walls after all of this drama around cheating this last week or so.

Come on people, be smarter than that and stop witchhunting.
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