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On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote: Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity?
Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it.
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On November 29 2014 05:21 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote: Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity? Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it. It's disgusting when people let cheating pass when it's "entertaining".
I thought I would never see this day on TL.
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Fuck Fnatic. That is all.
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On November 29 2014 05:22 Steveling wrote: Is edward a viking? russian viking game of throne character confirmed
he is serious like he should be majority of nip, c9, vp, ldlc are sure flusha/olof are cheating
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On November 29 2014 05:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:21 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote: Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity? Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it. It's bad when people let cheating pass when it's "entertaining".
I judge twitch content by how much I enjoy watching it. I enjoyed this more than the average CS GO. Sure it breaks the rules, doesn't mean I enjoy it less, just that I find the rules in the way of my enjoyment.
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On November 29 2014 05:22 Steveling wrote: Is edward a viking? LOL, could be.
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On November 29 2014 05:20 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote: Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating. does that matters in the upcoming decision ? Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely. I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it (i know, bad example, but follows the same rule) Ignorance of the law is no excuse. but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"... They knew about it for 2 months devilwalk said it yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful. People went into HAMMER to check, there isn't a ledge on the column. It's pixel walking.
haha nobody is disputing that at this point.
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On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote: Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating. does that matters in the upcoming decision ? Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely. I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it (i know, bad example, but follows the same rule) Ignorance of the law is no excuse. but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"... They knew about it for 2 months devilwalk said it yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful. What would an argument from Fnatic as to their not knowing that the exploit was pixel walking look like? Seriously, what would that actually look like? It is abundantly clear after looking at one still image that there is no ledge; given that Fnatic and its players have known about this maneuver for 2 months, how exactly are they to feign ignorance? "Oh, we thought there was a ledge there," just ain't gonna cut it.
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On November 29 2014 05:23 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:21 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On November 29 2014 05:21 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:17 Steveling wrote: Am I the only one admiring fnatic's passion and integrity? Easily the most entertaining map half of the tournament. Since it is entertainment I also admire it. It's bad when people let cheating pass when it's "entertaining". I judge twitch content by how much I enjoy watching it. I enjoyed this more than the average CS GO. Sure it breaks the rules, doesn't mean I enjoy it less, just that I find the rules in the way of my enjoyment. Everything is right in this world, so you're in minority and should feel bad.
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Honestly with all the drama over the VAC bans this is one of the worst things that could happen. We needed this tournament to go off with no drama instead of this shit.
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On November 29 2014 05:24 Numy wrote: Honestly with all the drama over the VAC bans this is one of the worst things that could happen. We needed this tournament to go off with no drama instead of this shit.
don't pretend you aren't rock hard over the drama
anything that drums up interest in the tournament is good
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On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote: Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating. does that matters in the upcoming decision ? Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely. I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it (i know, bad example, but follows the same rule) Ignorance of the law is no excuse. but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"... They knew about it for 2 months devilwalk said it yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful. how about the fact that it basically got them wallhack on some spots??? dont you think they might have suspected that to have been ILLEGAL? Fnatic is filled with fucking scumbags it seems
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I love how people accusing flusha for having aimlock or smh on LAN tournament R O F L.
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On November 29 2014 05:24 Numy wrote: Honestly with all the drama over the VAC bans this is one of the worst things that could happen. We needed this tournament to go off with no drama instead of this shit. The numbers are better than ever (i think?), if anything all this drama actually helped tbh
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China6330 Posts
People went to check in Hammer, there is no ledge, the rule books says pixel walking is not allowed, I don't understand the rest of the conversation.
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On November 29 2014 05:24 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 05:19 Doublemint wrote:On November 29 2014 05:18 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:16 Doublemint wrote:On November 29 2014 05:13 ramon wrote:On November 29 2014 05:12 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:08 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:07 Faruko wrote:On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote:On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote: Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating. does that matters in the upcoming decision ? Yes. If they knowingly cheat they will be DQ. If it is a grey zone a replay is more likely. I dont agree with you, if you do something thats against the rules you should be DQ whetever you know about it or no it doesnt matter like that, thats like stealing or something and saying that you never read X constitution, so you didnt knew about it (i know, bad example, but follows the same rule) Ignorance of the law is no excuse. but is indeed important in the extent of the "punishment"... They knew about it for 2 months devilwalk said it yes about the map bug/exploit. that it was pixel walking/against any rules? doubtful. What would an argument from Fnatic as to their not knowing that the exploit was pixel walking look like? Seriously, what would that actually look like? It is abundantly clear after looking at one still image that there is no ledge; given that Fnatic and its players have known about this maneuver for 2 months, how exactly are they to feign ignorance? "Oh, we thought there was a ledge there," just ain't gonna cut it.
They could say they didn't look at the tournament rules.
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that flusha gif. its so blatant im almost starting to believe its just a series of 1 in a million random chances. bleh.
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I really dont see ANYTHING suspicious on that gif. He wasn't even snapping hard. Pure coincidence.
Beside, cheating at this dreamhack would be suicide.
1: They took a TON of measures to prevent it. Including banning phones, banning access to steamcloud, having to provide the cfg beforehand, disallowing some mouse because of storage capabilities etc...
2: Who would be stupid enough to configure his cheat to track people through walls after all of this drama around cheating this last week or so.
Come on people, be smarter than that and stop witchhunting.
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