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Grettin
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Massami
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:02 ShiaoPi wrote: I really think they should overthink the GSL-style groups if they want to keep it Bo1. But on the other hand considering the amount of time a map takes, it is really hard to balance for tournament organisers More like the inevitable delays/their tendency to wait so long before/inbetween matches makes this shit drag on much longer than necessary. It's ridiculous and these CS:GO tournament organizers really need to step up their game. | ||
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Capped
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:06 Souma wrote: More like the inevitable delays/their tendency to wait so long before/inbetween matches makes this shit drag on much longer than necessary. It's ridiculous and these CS:GO tournament organizers really need to step up their game. hmm...I don't really think downtime was much of an issue, people do need time to setup/change gear/warm-up a bit. It is much more the tournament system in my opinion. Having a Bo1 as decider is just really unfulfilling especially since a good team on nuke will wreck other teams if they start on CT. Bo3 would work as a equalizer to those maps. I just thought that the last match was just decided on whoever started on CT-side since dignitas and titan are both notoriously good on it. And Anders said that as higher seed dignitas got to choose CT-side so to me that was a bit underwhelming to see titan drop out like that | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
TI had some crazy ass format with a million games though don't they? although I guess Dota2 games can vary from 10 minutes to an hour+. While CS games are almost guaranteed to be minimum 30-45 minutes. | ||
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ShiaoPi
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:48 Nagisama wrote: More evidence for me to say Titan sucks :D. TI had some crazy ass format with a million games though don't they? although I guess Dota2 games can vary from 10 minutes to an hour+. While CS games are almost guaranteed to be minimum 30-45 minutes. TI4 was a 16-man Bo1 round-robin tournament with some Bo1 tie-breaker games. But after those, all matches (bubble brackets and main event) were at least Bo3 | ||
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 16 2014 05:42 Nagisama wrote: It was also double elim iirc. Yeah, the main event was DE | ||
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yamato77
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MooMooMugi
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
Navi > Fnatic Cloud9 > NiP VP > LDLC Epsilon > Dignitas Subject to change, but any team can beat any and some I chose just because the betting percentages were so out of whack. It's a Bo3 format in quarters right? At this point all the games are way too hard to call. I don't think there's going to be a single blow out game tomorrow actually with the exception of maybe VP/LDLC (LDLC has gotten really good but I don't think they're a team that would make a top 4 finish just yet). The Navi/Fnatic percentage is just way too unjustified and as much as I would like to bet against Navi there's nothing to earn betting on FNC so I just bet useless skins. Epsilon/Dig is scary to think about because both teams are solid but there's a question of experience about whether or not winning a Bo3 is possible versus a Bo1. But I vote Epsilon because I think they're overdue for a more legitimate top 4 finish and while Dignitas have some sick players, I think Epsilon's players, not just Shox, are really good. I think the C9 hype is real and the people who are betting on NiP are betting on what NiP used to be and not what they are currently. From what I've seen the team has not shown up to play, though this could again be historically the fact that their group stages have always been paltry. Might switch to NiP, but we'll see. I don't like the idea that I'm voting on any American team, so maybe I'll be convinced to change later. | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:46 ShiaoPi wrote: hmm...I don't really think downtime was much of an issue, people do need time to setup/change gear/warm-up a bit. It is much more the tournament system in my opinion. Having a Bo1 as decider is just really unfulfilling especially since a good team on nuke will wreck other teams if they start on CT. Bo3 would work as a equalizer to those maps. I just thought that the last match was just decided on whoever started on CT-side since dignitas and titan are both notoriously good on it. And Anders said that as higher seed dignitas got to choose CT-side so to me that was a bit underwhelming to see titan drop out like that Today was much better than yesterday in terms of delays/intermissions etc. All I know is you should not need an hour inbetween games to set up, and you see many events even start much later than originally planned. Shit like that should be handled way before. Make the players come in early, get them ready to go, and start the damn match on time. Americans already have to stay up at ungodly hours to watch this stuff - making us wait an extra hour is not cool. | ||
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oscar62
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On August 16 2014 08:31 oscar62 wrote: going all in on c9 over nip good idea? Going all in is never a good idea.  But I think C9 has a really good chance at beating NiP. C9 has the momentum, the crowd, the confidence, and they also have experience with Bo3s and as they have shown today, they can face a team on one of their most terrifying maps and come out on top. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Thanks in advance if somebodies kind enough :3 | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 16 2014 08:31 oscar62 wrote: going all in on c9 over nip good idea? I still think NiP will win. I don't bet tho. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
I mean that's like listing all of Flash's accomplishments and then deciding not to bet against him towards the end of Broodwar. Yeah the guy was still a monster and could smash his opponents but he wasn't unbeatable anymore and even players he used to handle with ease had stepped up their game. I think a lot of teams just got a lot better and NiP haven't been improving as well. Granted, I could be wrong. Maybe NiP found some massive drive after their performance at gfinity (I hope they did) and they're really good now, but all the teams have an equal shot at beating NiP. The only things I don't like betting in are like 90/10 kind of bets. And I kind of want to avoid NiP this time too just to see how they are and then bet in the semis, but I think C9 actually have a good shot at beating NiP. | ||
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