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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 16 2014 11:19 GMT
#10581
lol epsilon vs dig deciding match on overpass
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 11:40:34
August 16 2014 11:21 GMT
#10582
On August 16 2014 20:09 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 19:58 Kotreb wrote:
I don't know if it has been discussed before, but what do you guys feel about bo1 format?


It's shit and has always been shit.


Kind of a necessary evil though. :/

On August 16 2014 20:08 MyrMindservant wrote:
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On August 16 2014 19:47 Souma wrote:
Na`vi are so retarded. They threw Inferno so hard and then they threw the last couple rounds on Nuke. Credit to fnatic for actually capitalizing on Na`vi being dumb, but I don't think fnatic will be able to make it past semis with that showing.

It looks like you are the one being dumb now, or maybe just angry. Do you know what throw is? They never had a lead significant enough to throw. Nowadays, people are spamming the "throw" word without even realizing what it means.

Also, if you are new to CS, different teams are good at different maps. And maps usually give advantage to one of the sides, CT or T. Inferno is Fnatic's best map and it is a CT-sided map. It's not a surprise that they came back and won after switching sides.
Nuke is Na'Vi's worst map. They had to play it because of Valves random map selection process and actually did better than anyone could expect from them.


Na'Vi has also lost most of the Inferno games I've seen them on recently (NiP at Dreamhack Summer, which was their pick, vs IBP in Caseking, vs LDLC here), so maybe there's a weakness to exploit.

Na'Vi's maps are like Mirage/Dust2. I imagine Cache would also be a good map because you can really utilize the AWP there, but it's kind of strange as far as their performance on Inferno is concerned.

edit: Wait no. I'm wrong about the NiP vs C9. Sorry.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
August 16 2014 11:25 GMT
#10583
Steel casting WOOO
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
August 16 2014 11:27 GMT
#10584
Welp all in on shoxilon, singing the marseillaise. Dunno why I feel I'm gonna get fucked :> should be a great game one way or another, so many sick aimers
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 16 2014 11:35 GMT
#10585
On August 16 2014 20:27 Nimix wrote:
Welp all in on shoxilon, singing the marseillaise. Dunno why I feel I'm gonna get fucked :> should be a great game one way or another, so many sick aimers


Epsilon actually has more than Shox now.

Kioshima, GMX, and Fxy0 have all really stepped up as long as they don't randomly feed for no reason. Not sure about sf.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
August 16 2014 11:41 GMT
#10586
Sure it's a great team as a whole, it's just crazy what shox can do when he's on, and he's even calling now too
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
August 16 2014 11:57 GMT
#10587
On August 16 2014 20:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:09 Numy wrote:
On August 16 2014 19:58 Kotreb wrote:
I don't know if it has been discussed before, but what do you guys feel about bo1 format?


It's shit and has always been shit.


Kind of a necessary evil though. :/

Well i think there are better ways to solve the time problem. This way you play 2 maps and boom, you're gone. Doesn't benefit anyone i think.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 16 2014 11:59 GMT
#10588
On August 16 2014 20:57 Kotreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:09 Numy wrote:
On August 16 2014 19:58 Kotreb wrote:
I don't know if it has been discussed before, but what do you guys feel about bo1 format?


It's shit and has always been shit.


Kind of a necessary evil though. :/

Well i think there are better ways to solve the time problem. This way you play 2 maps and boom, you're gone. Doesn't benefit anyone i think.


What teams have dropped out that didn't deserve to advance to the quarters over any other team that's there?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
August 16 2014 12:23 GMT
#10589
On August 16 2014 20:59 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:57 Kotreb wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:09 Numy wrote:
On August 16 2014 19:58 Kotreb wrote:
I don't know if it has been discussed before, but what do you guys feel about bo1 format?


It's shit and has always been shit.


Kind of a necessary evil though. :/

Well i think there are better ways to solve the time problem. This way you play 2 maps and boom, you're gone. Doesn't benefit anyone i think.


What teams have dropped out that didn't deserve to advance to the quarters over any other team that's there?

I did not say that the exits were undeserved. I am talking about that there is an elemnt of chance involved there (which imo should not be present in the 250k tournament) and teams like wolf or similar don't get almost any experience.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 12:27:39
August 16 2014 12:26 GMT
#10590
I am dumb, didn't check when the post was posted
EZ4ENCE
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
August 16 2014 12:26 GMT
#10591
Gotta say it's nice to have cameras on the teams during breaks. As long as they approve. :-)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 16 2014 12:27 GMT
#10592
On August 16 2014 21:26 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:19 Nagisama wrote:
lol epsilon vs dig deciding match on overpass

I guess we are up for a deciding G3 (just got home)

Na, that was just during map picks. Was just saying, if it goes to map 3, it'll be on overpass.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 16 2014 12:28 GMT
#10593
On August 16 2014 21:27 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:26 WindWolf wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:19 Nagisama wrote:
lol epsilon vs dig deciding match on overpass

I guess we are up for a deciding G3 (just got home)

Na, that was just during map picks. Was just saying, if it goes to map 3, it'll be on overpass.

Ok.
If that's the case I want to see Overpass. From what I remember from playing it the map was pretty nice. That was quite a while though
EZ4ENCE
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
August 16 2014 12:28 GMT
#10594
On August 16 2014 20:59 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:57 Kotreb wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:09 Numy wrote:
On August 16 2014 19:58 Kotreb wrote:
I don't know if it has been discussed before, but what do you guys feel about bo1 format?


It's shit and has always been shit.


Kind of a necessary evil though. :/

Well i think there are better ways to solve the time problem. This way you play 2 maps and boom, you're gone. Doesn't benefit anyone i think.


What teams have dropped out that didn't deserve to advance to the quarters over any other team that's there?

That's the point: we do not know.

BO1 is a terrible way to decide which teams are better, it has been proven many many times that BO1 matches can't be used as a good indication of teams' skill.
On top of that, they also added a random map selection system which only exacerbates the issue. And if that wasn't enough, they also forced teams to play new untested maps on a short notice, so teams didn't have enough time to properly prepare.
BoxeR, FanTaSy, Jaedong, Life | White-Ra | Moon || Na'Vi, Wings || ༼ᕤ $◡$ ༽ᕤ MIDAS HIM
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 16 2014 12:30 GMT
#10595
On August 16 2014 21:28 MyrMindservant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:59 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:57 Kotreb wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On August 16 2014 20:09 Numy wrote:
On August 16 2014 19:58 Kotreb wrote:
I don't know if it has been discussed before, but what do you guys feel about bo1 format?


It's shit and has always been shit.


Kind of a necessary evil though. :/

Well i think there are better ways to solve the time problem. This way you play 2 maps and boom, you're gone. Doesn't benefit anyone i think.


What teams have dropped out that didn't deserve to advance to the quarters over any other team that's there?

That's the point: we do not know.

BO1 is a terrible way to decide which teams are better, it has been proven many many times that BO1 matches can't be used as a good indication of teams' skill.
On top of that, they also added a random map selection system which only exacerbates the issue. And if that wasn't enough, they also forced teams to play new untested maps on a short notice, so teams didn't have enough time to properly prepare.

Yep, Bo1 early on sucks unless you do something like TI4 with a 16-team round-robin
EZ4ENCE
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 16 2014 12:34 GMT
#10596
That first round was so cloose. Epsilon should have taken that run
EZ4ENCE
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12143 Posts
August 16 2014 12:46 GMT
#10597
Ouch 0-8 on a map they have the favoured side on.
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 16 2014 12:55 GMT
#10598
fxy0 LOL
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
August 16 2014 13:01 GMT
#10599
welp rip. Knew I was gonna get fucked. At least it's less disappointing than losing a bet on Na'Vi because they lose against an eco when they had the game :D
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
August 16 2014 13:02 GMT
#10600
man hoped for a better game there by Epsilon. It's almost as ugly as VP vs. IBP there on Inferno.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
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