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SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:20:48
June 24 2014 19:06 GMT
#9321
On June 25 2014 03:55 Nagisama wrote:
You can have proper crosshair placement playing deathmatch servers too. It's not all "spawn, shoot, die, spawn shoot die". Just find some decently populated ~18-20 max players and play those. Those still allow you to move around the map which lets you practice your crosshair placements. Also, I've noticed some are actual FFA deathmatch servers which let you team kill as well, and I'd say to avoid those. Too chaotic.


Yes you can have proper crosshair placement playing dms but when there are 18 people in the server most of the time you won't get much done. The whole point of dm'ing is to try to play without sound and focus on reaction times, flicks and long distance aiming. Its a bit counter productive if you're cautiously running around with sound and focusing on crosshair placement.

Threads about aim come up a lot on ESEA forums and most of the responses involve "dm to 100 kills with ak, m4, awp every day" or "dm for 1-2 hrs a day", but everyone that suggests this has terrible stats and doesn't understand how to properly improve.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:30:14
June 24 2014 19:28 GMT
#9322
On June 25 2014 04:06 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 03:55 Nagisama wrote:
You can have proper crosshair placement playing deathmatch servers too. It's not all "spawn, shoot, die, spawn shoot die". Just find some decently populated ~18-20 max players and play those. Those still allow you to move around the map which lets you practice your crosshair placements. Also, I've noticed some are actual FFA deathmatch servers which let you team kill as well, and I'd say to avoid those. Too chaotic.


Yes you can have proper crosshair placement playing dms but when there are 18 people in the server most of the time you won't get much done. The whole point of dm'ing is to try to play without sound and focus on reaction times, flicks and long distance aiming. Its a bit counter productive if you're cautiously running around with sound and focusing on crosshair placement.

Threads about aim come up a lot on ESEA forums and most of the responses involve "dm to 100 kills with ak, m4, awp every day" or "dm for 1-2 hrs a day", but everyone that suggests this has terrible stats and doesn't understand how to properly improve.

Playing dm does help at the start especially. You don't learn how to control your recoil or counter-strafing just by thinking you can do it. The point of DM is to throw you in a lot of situations without downtime so that you can experiment the first. You learn the most doing that by concentrating on exactly what you want to train (ie tapping, 2shot, 3shot, full spray) and only do that, or you can just yolo it and take every situation as they come. Regardless, it does help at the start. It wont do you any good for your gamesense, and little for your crosshair placement, altho you can force yourself to follow walls with your crosshair, say on dust2 DM.

You shouldnt do that all day tho. I treat it as warmup personnally now.
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:37:12
June 24 2014 19:34 GMT
#9323
On June 25 2014 04:28 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 04:06 SyNc` wrote:
On June 25 2014 03:55 Nagisama wrote:
You can have proper crosshair placement playing deathmatch servers too. It's not all "spawn, shoot, die, spawn shoot die". Just find some decently populated ~18-20 max players and play those. Those still allow you to move around the map which lets you practice your crosshair placements. Also, I've noticed some are actual FFA deathmatch servers which let you team kill as well, and I'd say to avoid those. Too chaotic.


Yes you can have proper crosshair placement playing dms but when there are 18 people in the server most of the time you won't get much done. The whole point of dm'ing is to try to play without sound and focus on reaction times, flicks and long distance aiming. Its a bit counter productive if you're cautiously running around with sound and focusing on crosshair placement.

Threads about aim come up a lot on ESEA forums and most of the responses involve "dm to 100 kills with ak, m4, awp every day" or "dm for 1-2 hrs a day", but everyone that suggests this has terrible stats and doesn't understand how to properly improve.

Playing dm does help at the start especially. You don't learn how to control your recoil or counter-strafing just by thinking you can do it. The point of DM is to throw you in a lot of situations without downtime so that you can experiment the first. You learn the most doing that by concentrating on exactly what you want to train (ie tapping, 2shot, 3shot, full spray) and only do that, or you can just yolo it and take every situation as they come. Regardless, it does help at the start. It wont do you any good for your gamesense, and little for your crosshair placement, altho you can force yourself to follow walls with your crosshair, say on dust2 DM.

You shouldnt do that all day tho. I treat it as warmup personnally now.


I agree that dm'ing is the way to go if you just got the game, but once you somewhat have the recoil and basic fundamentals down, you hit a point where you have to actually focus on the important things to get better. At that point it makes sense to warm up for 15 mins in a dm but my posts are generally focused on letting people know that dm'ing for hours every day is the most pointless thing you can do if you want to get better.

There are people that literally only deathmatch and complain about being stuck in low ranks when they probably play a few hours worth of matchmaking a week and spend the rest on aim training.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 24 2014 20:21 GMT
#9324
Yeah only dm wouldn't accomplish much once you've got aim/recoil down to a certain point aside from maintaining the muscle memory. Rest is playing in actual situations to gain that game sense you can only really get by playing competitive a lot. Watching some pro streams and pro games help too.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
June 24 2014 20:28 GMT
#9325
Dm is annoying when you have less than 8/9 people against you... and theres usually only 1/2 good players so if youre not bad you get lazy fast instead of being on edge :-( wish i could aim in competitive the way i do in dm though... cant help it people are better you cant play the same.
NoiR
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
June 24 2014 21:19 GMT
#9326
I've been playing the 1v1 arena maps which are pretty fun and good warm up for me. Also just any competitive map with 18-24 people so you have plenty of targets and make sure it's not a map that gives 16000.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
June 24 2014 21:51 GMT
#9327
On June 25 2014 05:28 Nouar wrote:
Dm is annoying when you have less than 8/9 people against you... and theres usually only 1/2 good players so if youre not bad you get lazy fast instead of being on edge :-( wish i could aim in competitive the way i do in dm though... cant help it people are better you cant play the same.


Seems like a lot of people are ridiculous in dms but not so much in competitive, which is another reason why i absolutely hate dming.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19269 Posts
June 25 2014 00:20 GMT
#9328
Aim is half the game. You also need game sense so you know where people are.
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Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
June 25 2014 17:26 GMT
#9329
Where my 75% off CSGO at 7.50 too expensive for me.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 25 2014 17:41 GMT
#9330
On June 26 2014 02:26 Fawkes wrote:
Where my 75% off CSGO at 7.50 too expensive for me.


Then you really shouldn't be gaming.
Useless wet fish.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 25 2014 17:43 GMT
#9331
On June 26 2014 02:26 Fawkes wrote:
Where my 75% off CSGO at 7.50 too expensive for me.


Just takes a few more weeks for the cases to pay it off.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
June 25 2014 18:00 GMT
#9332
On June 26 2014 02:43 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 02:26 Fawkes wrote:
Where my 75% off CSGO at 7.50 too expensive for me.


Just takes a few more weeks for the cases to pay it off.


WEEKS!
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 25 2014 18:27 GMT
#9333
On June 26 2014 02:26 Fawkes wrote:
Where my 75% off CSGO at 7.50 too expensive for me.


skip lunch for a day. Problem solved
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
June 25 2014 19:54 GMT
#9334
Wasn't GO 75% last sale? I swear I got it for less than 4 €. Still havn't played it but installed it now. Googling for a guide now to get my config ready.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 25 2014 19:58 GMT
#9335
I have a smurf... I ruined some people's lives already today
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 19:59:40
June 25 2014 19:59 GMT
#9336
On June 26 2014 04:54 Miragee wrote:
Wasn't GO 75% last sale? I swear I got it for less than 4 €. Still havn't played it but installed it now. Googling for a guide now to get my config ready.


Yeah it was, last year 75% off. This summer sale is a joke.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
June 25 2014 20:01 GMT
#9337
Gnah, I don't find what I'm looking for. I'm certain in this thread was a really good video with just 4 commands to adjust. Aligning server pings for example. Can anybody help me?
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
June 25 2014 20:03 GMT
#9338
On June 26 2014 05:01 Miragee wrote:
Gnah, I don't find what I'm looking for. I'm certain in this thread was a really good video with just 4 commands to adjust. Aligning server pings for example. Can anybody help me?


This what you're talking about?


amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 25 2014 20:09 GMT
#9339
setting rates doesnt really matter if you only play Valve servers (they cap it at 64 ticks anyways). If you play on 128 tick servers, then you'll need to change your rates.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 25 2014 20:10 GMT
#9340
On June 26 2014 04:58 Djzapz wrote:
I have a smurf... I ruined some people's lives already today


add my smurf dude, let's have some fun

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198137906897/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
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