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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 13:00:18
April 10 2014 12:57 GMT
#14741
OMG nooo. Died 4 min before end of Descent Champions at #7 and 1st Mara. T_T Now I'll maybe end up 4th or something.

And here I thought I had enough Lightning Res, that Arc caster pack wrecked me.

Should've checked the ladder and go a bit slower, had a 2 minutes lead.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 16:33:16
April 10 2014 16:33 GMT
#14742
Just got resurrected by desync in Cruel Docks. Droolscar dropped my fps to 0 and popped desecrate and a detonate dead or three on me. My client thought I had 0 hp, but I just kept running and it recalibrated me to more hp.

Thanks Desync! <3
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
April 10 2014 16:53 GMT
#14743
On April 11 2014 01:33 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Just got resurrected by desync in Cruel Docks. Droolscar dropped my fps to 0 and popped desecrate and a detonate dead or three on me. My client thought I had 0 hp, but I just kept running and it recalibrated me to more hp.

Thanks Desync! <3


LOL first time I hear about desync saving someone's life, haha. :D
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 20:46:48
April 10 2014 20:45 GMT
#14744
Anyone know of an Invasion-viable build that involves using multiple skills, preferably melee? I understand that it's inherently part of a game like this, but I hate builds that are built around spamming a single skill for every situation. I'd like to have options and need to adapt a my skill choice and playstyle to the situation at hand, if only a little bit.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
April 10 2014 20:46 GMT
#14745
Im not sure about melee, but as far as skill diverse builds go your options are probably an EE trapper or discharger.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 21:17:16
April 10 2014 21:12 GMT
#14746
On April 11 2014 05:46 Varanice wrote:
Im not sure about melee, but as far as skill diverse builds go your options are probably an EE trapper or discharger.

I'm not seeing too many skill diverse discharge builds. Seems most of them just have a charge-farming skill and discharge. Also, what about Pohx's maxed everything melee ranger?

lol, in the process of browsing the forums, I came across an "invasion-viable" wings of entropy build. Either there's something big I'm overlooking here, or invasion-viable doesn't mean what he thinks it means.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
April 10 2014 21:12 GMT
#14747
Well, for Melee you probably only use two skills for dmg as in single target/aoe. Leap Slam for mobility. If you build your build tanky enough, every melee skill is viable in invasion. I would advice against Sweep/Cleave though.

For other builds I agree on what vara said. If you play in a party, a support culler with conduit might be to your likings, too.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 21:14:19
April 10 2014 21:13 GMT
#14748
Well for discharge you usually use a Charge-Generator, an Elemental Equilibrium proccer, and a Shock-stack generator where possible.
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
April 10 2014 21:54 GMT
#14749
Won't an Weapon Elementalist with defences be the typical melee with a lot of abilities to choose from? Or you can even go partly ranged with it.
I guess the "invasion viable" puts some harsh requiredments on playstyle for melee, regardless of defences.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 22:31:19
April 10 2014 22:29 GMT
#14750
On April 11 2014 06:54 Duvon wrote:
Won't an Weapon Elementalist with defences be the typical melee with a lot of abilities to choose from? Or you can even go partly ranged with it.
I guess the "invasion viable" puts some harsh requiredments on playstyle for melee, regardless of defences.

Keeping in mind the recent nerfs (less one-shots) and the fact that I'll be adopting a "skip or rip" stratagem, what kind of things will my build need to be able to handle?
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 09:34:02
April 11 2014 09:27 GMT
#14751
Aaand Demi here I go. #17 and 1st Mara at the recent 85 min Fixed Seed. No good competiton online apparently or they died. Made lvl 25 and close to 26.

Like always, my Act1 was rather fast (28 min Merveil), but then I needed a long time for Act2. Killed Vaal at 1:10, so like 15-20 min later than the best guys.

That demi is pretty legit O_o 29 IIR and 24 all res on a belt.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
April 11 2014 09:40 GMT
#14752
On April 11 2014 18:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Aaand Demi here I go. #17 and 1st Mara at the recent 85 min Fixed Seed. No good competiton online apparently or they died. Made lvl 25 and close to 26.

Like always, my Act1 was rather fast (28 min Merveil), but then I needed a long time for Act2. Killed Vaal at 1:10, so like 15-20 min later than the best guys.

That demi is pretty legit O_o 29 IIR and 24 all res on a belt.


I think I would have been able to give you a good competition if I didn't play completly terrible. Just stood up and played completly brain-afk. Had mutiple city stops with 1+ minute staying around figuring out why I wanted to go to the city. Then in act 2 I forgot to get transmutations resulting in enormous time-loss because of city stops and late crafting. Got to lvl 24.

But gz on your demi! I don't deserve one yet anyways.^^
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 09:50:03
April 11 2014 09:48 GMT
#14753
Thanks, was my 3rd one (in three different seasons). You'll get one too, if you keep it up. Wanting to win is just pretty stressful, haha. Can't play brain-afk. Was really surprised that I won, usually there are some Maras reaching like level 28 or 29.

Lol, I just checked the 85 min records, and Boof is in the top3 for 4 different classes.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 11 2014 19:06 GMT
#14754
hmm well thats odd
bought an alpha's howl really thinking it would boost my dps cuz i run anger/wrath/haste crit build
turns out my dps actually went down a tiny bit compared to my rat's nest


oops.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 19:20:25
April 11 2014 19:20 GMT
#14755
Rats nest is a lot of crit.

However, alpha howl should save you mana also if ur aura's aren't level 20 then as they level each successive level should add more damage. (aka 18->20 isn't as impactful as 20->22 afaik)

Cant be frozen kicks ass btw
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
April 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#14756
Sorry about all the delays, im on break this week so I should be able to update the OP sometime this next week hopefully.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 11 2014 23:25 GMT
#14757
I have a question, does elemental equilibrium proc off of WED on an item?

lets say i do an attack, heavy strike, and the only elemental damage i have is 10 fire damage on a ring
i have elemental equilibrium
will it take effect if i follow up that attack with a frost nova?


i am asking because i am wondering if it could be used in a cyclone CoC discharge build where you proc elemental equilibrium with frost damage on your cyclone and crit out a discharge of power/endurance charges.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
April 12 2014 00:02 GMT
#14758
On April 12 2014 08:25 travis wrote:
I have a question, does elemental equilibrium proc off of WED on an item?

lets say i do an attack, heavy strike, and the only elemental damage i have is 10 fire damage on a ring
i have elemental equilibrium
will it take effect if i follow up that attack with a frost nova?


i am asking because i am wondering if it could be used in a cyclone CoC discharge build where you proc elemental equilibrium with frost damage on your cyclone and crit out a discharge of power/endurance charges.

Yes. EE proc from any source of elemental dmg that is a hit.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 10:15:34
April 12 2014 10:14 GMT
#14759
On April 12 2014 08:25 travis wrote:
I have a question, does elemental equilibrium proc off of WED on an item?

lets say i do an attack, heavy strike, and the only elemental damage i have is 10 fire damage on a ring
i have elemental equilibrium
will it take effect if i follow up that attack with a frost nova?


i am asking because i am wondering if it could be used in a cyclone CoC discharge build where you proc elemental equilibrium with frost damage on your cyclone and crit out a discharge of power/endurance charges.

Yes, but EE is annoying as hell if you don't use it to proliferate one crazy-high burning DoT to other monsters.
In your case you will more often proc a double-EE from your discharge(cold+light) because the AoE is bigger than what you will hit with your cyclone to proc the single EE with fire.
Sure this can be optimized by throwing fire traps constantly, conc effect on discharge etc. but you should be aware of this problem
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 18:10:27
April 12 2014 18:07 GMT
#14760
On April 12 2014 19:14 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 08:25 travis wrote:
I have a question, does elemental equilibrium proc off of WED on an item?

lets say i do an attack, heavy strike, and the only elemental damage i have is 10 fire damage on a ring
i have elemental equilibrium
will it take effect if i follow up that attack with a frost nova?


i am asking because i am wondering if it could be used in a cyclone CoC discharge build where you proc elemental equilibrium with frost damage on your cyclone and crit out a discharge of power/endurance charges.

Yes, but EE is annoying as hell if you don't use it to proliferate one crazy-high burning DoT to other monsters.
In your case you will more often proc a double-EE from your discharge(cold+light) because the AoE is bigger than what you will hit with your cyclone to proc the single EE with fire.
Sure this can be optimized by throwing fire traps constantly, conc effect on discharge etc. but you should be aware of this problem

If he is a physical based build I dont see an issue with it.

for example I use split arrow + chain + lgoh + faster attacks on my EA build to proc EE on all mobs so I go: 5 stack something with EA, curse flammability, and then spam split arrow. So my EA pierces a ton of resist from fire pene, EE and flammability.

EE is probably one of my favorite keystone passives, but it's hard to use effectively. It also works well with Summoners and trappers
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