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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
January 07 2014 01:42 GMT
#12901
Thanky you two
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 02:00:28
January 07 2014 01:56 GMT
#12902
On January 07 2014 10:30 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 09:05 Pwere wrote:
On January 07 2014 06:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh yeah I saw that EE but wasn't sure if I misclicked it on while looking at your tree or what.

How are you triggering that? Does it work properly? The reason I ask is that I assume if you say shock nova'd them then started channelling a flameblast by the time your flameblast was really ready the EE status would have worn off the mobs. Haven't ever played an EE build nor have I tested flameblast.

PS I'm also not sold on that DoT circle you took considering how much burning damage you already have and how I'd assume you one-shot a decent amount of mobs. But I haven't tested so I could be very wrong there.
From what I heard, you can actually channel flameblast, and cast cold snap or shock nova before it activates when you let it go, so EE/shocks don't expire. I haven't tested it, but it seemed like good/fun design.

I'm also not sold on the whole right part of the tree. I'd rather dig into the templar tree for life, AoE, reduced mana + regen. Grab the life+mana (there are 6 of these for 36% life, 48% mana), then drop EB entirely.


Hmmm, perhaps you are right, going to re-build my tree, and see how i like it.

So i reworked the tree a little bit, here's what i got Burn Damage FB Scion

I may even part with the 3x3% cast speed nodes, although i already have them on my toon, so i think i would feel it too much if i respec it. Thanks for the suggestions, going towards Templar does feel better.


Zero dex gems; even off stat hybrids (all these suck actually) possible, but 20 DEX ^_^ Could also be a liability for equipment depending on what you're intending to use.
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 02:07:00
January 07 2014 01:58 GMT
#12903
Since i will probably never make the character and i spent a lot of time on the build and I think its really beautiful, maybe one of you will enjoy my work.

Here's my take on flameblast for nemesis:

-hybrid es/life (skill does retarded dmg, just need a huge life buffer and some overcapped resists. We can also do other tricks with the es) side note: probably just would wear pure ES base gear with life/resists on it.
-wears either the claw that gives ghost reaver and or takes zealots oath.
-wears saffels frame, we don't want to be blocking physical attacks, it is basically being stunned and we also need overcap fire resists.
-uses es for 100% immunity to stun via 25% chance to avoid stun from steady hands while channeling flameblast, the ranger life regen/avoid stun node and the base 50% avoid stun from having es.
-uses the aura nodes to run grace, discipline and purity of fire.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-fXX-uu969qOvpyzp3Q38xWegh3ZKfVuvTioppRUgg9v8S85xbBYqTT8nSshuqrXyNZL-j03jplcxnjrh8kX-CqxZiPHnY7c-QYf56ILHKPrr7tWBeqqa4EWduJOnCI9G0NDPZVXGFm8dFOlzna4SaRcccXn60jbp42okqhmFFy9k51XWgKRmnnFNms9DY7cxWPWdxMAakFWnhBo47Dg62E3YjHaePIFvBLMUTaIA8B8CcYM473yQCg==


Also planned on just getting in the habit of always popping a ruby flask at the end of my flameblast channel, giving me like 94% fire resists at the time of every flameblast impact.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 07 2014 02:27 GMT
#12904
You only have to play the block animation if the attack would have stunned you. There is nothing bad about blocking physical attacks, although it would increase your reflect mitigation significantly with spell block.

The ES chance to avoid stuns is a separate roll. Steady hands and heart of oak should be additive, but you can't get 100% without eye or unwavering stance. Why don't you want to use eye?
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
January 07 2014 02:32 GMT
#12905
^^ You guys are on a whole nother level lol. So much better thought out than my build haha, as i totally forgot about getting stunned, im so used to having Unwavering Stance since all my builds normally are melee, or get US anyways.

And what is this ES and stun stuff, if your hit while having energy shield, there's a 50% chance of avoiding a stun??? Why have i not know that lol
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
January 07 2014 03:34 GMT
#12906
On January 07 2014 11:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
You only have to play the block animation if the attack would have stunned you. There is nothing bad about blocking physical attacks, although it would increase your reflect mitigation significantly with spell block.

The ES chance to avoid stuns is a separate roll. Steady hands and heart of oak should be additive, but you can't get 100% without eye or unwavering stance. Why don't you want to use eye?

why do you think it isnt additive?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:04:30
January 07 2014 03:45 GMT
#12907
On January 07 2014 12:34 CrownRoyal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 11:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
You only have to play the block animation if the attack would have stunned you. There is nothing bad about blocking physical attacks, although it would increase your reflect mitigation significantly with spell block.

The ES chance to avoid stuns is a separate roll. Steady hands and heart of oak should be additive, but you can't get 100% without eye or unwavering stance. Why don't you want to use eye?

why do you think it isnt additive?


It is only rolled if you are going to get stunned so it can't be additive. As I said before it is a separate roll.

This is calculated independently of the creature's chance to be stunned. First the chance to stun is calculated as normal, and if the stun check succeeds and would cause a stun, there is then a 50% chance that the stun can be avoided. An attack that removes energy shield can have its stun avoided, even though energy shield is 0 after damage is applied.


^mechanics thread
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 04:39:51
January 07 2014 04:34 GMT
#12908
On January 07 2014 05:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dual curses does fine excepting when shenanigans are afoot (resist map with resist aura boss or totem and naturally resistant mobs comes to mind). Then its pen or bust.

K dual curse is OK and all, but get your 5 link asap and run your goddamn penetration
If you can, just fucking run it on your 4 link, on zero resistance mobs penetration gem makes their resistance negative and acts like X% more damage

-Curse Immune mobs with resistance are too fucking common; penetration gem does not give a flying fuck about that
-Each second you spend cursing is a second you don't spend blowing them the fuck up. If you can get away with blowing them the fuck up with one or preferably zero curses you don't get shot as much and you get better clearspeed
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
January 07 2014 04:46 GMT
#12909
just use flameblast fire pen chance to ignite and prolif?

if u have quality flameblast u could probably just flammability instead of chance to ignite.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5498 Posts
January 07 2014 06:28 GMT
#12910
Can you guys give me some tips on how I should go about using my scrolls/orbs. I'm currently in Act 2 and I'm wondering if I should be saving these for later when I start hitting a brick wall.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3455 Posts
January 07 2014 07:18 GMT
#12911
Don't use anything that is 1chaos or above. Should only use Jews and Fus when it's really necessary. Don't use alc or scour at all ( I can't think if a reason for them at that lvl actually). Use alts to roll flask.
That's about it I think.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
January 07 2014 07:26 GMT
#12912
On January 07 2014 15:28 thezanursic wrote:
Can you guys give me some tips on how I should go about using my scrolls/orbs. I'm currently in Act 2 and I'm wondering if I should be saving these for later when I start hitting a brick wall.

hc or softcore?

in hc u need to probably use some currency once u hit cruel, ive never played sc nor would i reccomend playing poe in sc seems boring.
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
January 07 2014 20:44 GMT
#12913
RiP lvl 49 Nemesis Shadow, Desync into a room with a ancestral power rare, all doors blocked and i die So stupid, he was almost unkillable if he could leach...

So, i am still not sure whether i will just continue him in HC or not, cause it was actually quite funny So far. If i do, apart from desyncing, what do i have to be afraid of the most in late game.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB_5MeGjBUmVcoKrVIsbPtQaZ_h9sWv-tjmZq29xEv1AV1imHiiGvjhA5IpzQRln_GwcUsv4auFdfXhuwYw21jQ_LhwuxHBl9qHoFLjf8coqPB820ZO-Hi96cri3q71hFQT79DVB3ZVmO0xSsKwQDbGhB79Uu-OgW1jb_rFOjW3vbaPRuXuIwnYQbpCSFRRzB8fyvWij7Pveb5YxrbTGAEsZVm18u30z3iSO54rhut035AVW9XDI0NSRzckye0DDQKN2YspqbrN4PquoRIPI4Bb1fJ2-eaeK0e3Uh5SCEDu3xl8UvE0AmfJ_F2Z2fCgL7B

This is my planned build, right now i am only using health nodes instead of the ev/es ones. I think the damage might be too low in the end, can't really say anything about that, the plan is to go with only physical right now, i am using Reave with a as-support rune, plan on melee damage on full life and probably + melee damage. Second skill is Double strike for single monsters, probably same supports. I think i would need a n option for heavily armoured monsters, what else could bite me very happily with that skill combination?
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
January 07 2014 20:53 GMT
#12914
On January 07 2014 15:28 thezanursic wrote:
Can you guys give me some tips on how I should go about using my scrolls/orbs. I'm currently in Act 2 and I'm wondering if I should be saving these for later when I start hitting a brick wall.


Stash almost all of your orbs, unless necessary to progress. It is OK to use a subset of the orbs freely. I generally carry a stack of transmutes/augs with me while leveling, and use them on any whites that are nicely linked or if an upgrade is needed in that slot. In that way I'm almost never wanting for a good weapon, although resists are suddenly a problem when I hit merci, but aren't they always. As vndestiny said, alts should mostly be reserved for flasks, since you won't be finding many of the more specialized flasks, and you will require certain mods even on your standard flasks, ie Remove Bleed is mandatory due to Corrupting Blood mods.
AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
January 07 2014 21:10 GMT
#12915
Found a BoR and 455 max damage 2h maul while doing some piety runs. Are they worth anything?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2014 21:15 GMT
#12916
yeah bor is 7-10 ex depending on league and rolls.

For the maul you need to know DPS. Physical dps is highly preferable to elemental. DPS = average damage times attacks per second. Average damage is [bottom damage plus top damage all divided by 2]
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 21:27:10
January 07 2014 21:22 GMT
#12917
On January 08 2014 05:53 Eschaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 15:28 thezanursic wrote:
Can you guys give me some tips on how I should go about using my scrolls/orbs. I'm currently in Act 2 and I'm wondering if I should be saving these for later when I start hitting a brick wall.


Stash almost all of your orbs, unless necessary to progress. It is OK to use a subset of the orbs freely. I generally carry a stack of transmutes/augs with me while leveling, and use them on any whites that are nicely linked or if an upgrade is needed in that slot. In that way I'm almost never wanting for a good weapon, although resists are suddenly a problem when I hit merci, but aren't they always. As vndestiny said, alts should mostly be reserved for flasks, since you won't be finding many of the more specialized flasks, and you will require certain mods even on your standard flasks, ie Remove Bleed is mandatory due to Corrupting Blood mods.


Portal scum much cheaper. Constantly altering flasks for remove bleed is a serious waste of currency. Once you can use a hallowed so you can get a seething staunching, but ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 07 2014 21:30 GMT
#12918
On January 08 2014 06:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah bor is 7-10 ex depending on league and rolls.

For the maul you need to know DPS. Physical dps is highly preferable to elemental. DPS = average damage times attacks per second. Average damage is [bottom damage plus top damage all divided by 2]


multiply physical DPS by 1.2 as well
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2014 21:42 GMT
#12919
On January 08 2014 06:30 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 06:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah bor is 7-10 ex depending on league and rolls.

For the maul you need to know DPS. Physical dps is highly preferable to elemental. DPS = average damage times attacks per second. Average damage is [bottom damage plus top damage all divided by 2]


multiply physical DPS by 1.2 as well

?
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AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
January 07 2014 22:01 GMT
#12920
It was a Karui Maul type weapon with I think ~240-455 physical DPS and had I think +6% AS for 1.01 APS. Had another mod or so as well.
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