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AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 15:42:04
February 13 2012 15:41 GMT
#3341
On February 13 2012 00:46 Timurid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 20:44 Rebs wrote:
On February 12 2012 19:31 JPP wrote:
On February 12 2012 18:08 Rebs wrote:
On February 12 2012 06:24 Sated wrote:
On February 12 2012 06:02 ZapRoffo wrote:
On February 12 2012 05:25 imperfect wrote:
On February 12 2012 05:05 ZapRoffo wrote:
Today might be the death blow to Barça in La Liga, down 2-0 at Osasuna and looking horrible at half.


what the hell happened

Final Osa 3-2 Barça

Well they rested Xavi and Iniesta for CL this week seems like and Fabregas came on late only, Busquets is out injured so they didn't have their top midfield really. Also conditions didn't really favor their style, below freezing temperature, high wind, seemed like actually ice on the field, people were slipping a lot.

I remember Guardiola once saying that Barcelona had a whole team of Jack Wilshere's in reserve. Clearly not.


Actually in some ways they are better, Wilshere has done precious little in the span he was playing compared to what these kids are already achieving. Pretty sure you could stack your midfield with Wilsheres against those reserves and theyd get skinned. And as much as I like Arsenal his teams done even worse.



No they are not better. Go re-watch the Arsenal-Barcelona match. There is no other teenager in the world that could have done what Wilshere did that night, against the best midfield in the world. You're seriously overrating the Barcelona youngsters based on a few cup games and matches against bottom table teams. At least Wilshere has been a consistent starter so we can make a fair judgement about him.


He played a good game, by that logic the guy who scored 2 against Barca last night is now a Godly forward.


He was a consistent starter in a team performing poorly. Heck its still performing poorly. These guys are contributing, it doesnt matter wether its bottom of the table (which it really isnt actually ? Do you even follow spanish football ?) Thiago I rate already above Wilshere playing roughly the same position at the moment. Theyve been getting pretty good time and theyve got the stats to show for it. The contributions are very telling go check them out. And please no more BS about how La liga is sub standard and what not, wether its shit teams or this teams or that teams. Arsenal have trouble beating anything really. Its no different to England.

The likes of Tello and Cuenca are wingers and frankly serve a different purpose to what Wilshere does/did and more importantly they score goals. Hence the "in some ways". Wilshere dont get to many of those. Hell intangibles aside just look at the raw stats. Im not going to look them up for you but feel free to be surprised.

Granted hes been injured all season and injury is unfortunate but thats not anyone elses problem really you cant feel sorry for to long about people getting injured its part and parcel of how your rated. If you arent fit to play then you are no good and your value as a player drops end of discussion. What you "did" is like saying Torres is a great forward because he scored lots of goals for liverpool. Unless it led to winning something, its not even a laurel let alone something worth resting on.

The worst thing that couldve happened to him was the how much he had to play at his age in a breakthrough season and then after, its just not smart and it shows everytime Arsenal get a kid hobbling of over the years. Why you think Wengers so careful with Miyachi and Ox now.

Sorry but any barca lineup with regular starters + Cuenca, Tello and Thiago on current form would thrash any Arsenal team with 3 Wilsheres (even at his best). And feel free to cut an Iniesta or Fabregas here or a Pedro there.

Maybe theyll be found out if they play more, but not at the moment they are punching well above their supposed weight in a star studded team.

They must be on amazing form to lose to Osasuna yesterday.

lol result oriented much?

I'd say it's pretty accurate what guardiola said about jack wilshere. Don't get me wrong, i love jack wilshere but it's probably not that far off that there are barcelona players on the reserve squads that are around his same skill level. tello, cuenca, thiago quickly come to mind.

you'd have to watch the players play to know this though.. "LOL barcelona lose to osasuna" isn't an argument
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 13 2012 16:10 GMT
#3342
Rangers FC Go into Administration..... /awww lolol XD

In other news....AVB needs pull his farking finger out or leave! Poor Roman, always picks shit managers since Mourinho
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
February 13 2012 18:37 GMT
#3343
So glad Zambia won. I lived there for three years and naturally I supported them throughout the whole duration of the cup.
Chipolopolo, champions of Africa!
End my suffering
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 22:04:41
February 13 2012 22:04 GMT
#3344
On February 14 2012 00:41 AngryLlama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 00:46 Timurid wrote:
On February 12 2012 20:44 Rebs wrote:
On February 12 2012 19:31 JPP wrote:
On February 12 2012 18:08 Rebs wrote:
On February 12 2012 06:24 Sated wrote:
On February 12 2012 06:02 ZapRoffo wrote:
On February 12 2012 05:25 imperfect wrote:
On February 12 2012 05:05 ZapRoffo wrote:
Today might be the death blow to Barça in La Liga, down 2-0 at Osasuna and looking horrible at half.


what the hell happened

Final Osa 3-2 Barça

Well they rested Xavi and Iniesta for CL this week seems like and Fabregas came on late only, Busquets is out injured so they didn't have their top midfield really. Also conditions didn't really favor their style, below freezing temperature, high wind, seemed like actually ice on the field, people were slipping a lot.

I remember Guardiola once saying that Barcelona had a whole team of Jack Wilshere's in reserve. Clearly not.


Actually in some ways they are better, Wilshere has done precious little in the span he was playing compared to what these kids are already achieving. Pretty sure you could stack your midfield with Wilsheres against those reserves and theyd get skinned. And as much as I like Arsenal his teams done even worse.



No they are not better. Go re-watch the Arsenal-Barcelona match. There is no other teenager in the world that could have done what Wilshere did that night, against the best midfield in the world. You're seriously overrating the Barcelona youngsters based on a few cup games and matches against bottom table teams. At least Wilshere has been a consistent starter so we can make a fair judgement about him.


He played a good game, by that logic the guy who scored 2 against Barca last night is now a Godly forward.


He was a consistent starter in a team performing poorly. Heck its still performing poorly. These guys are contributing, it doesnt matter wether its bottom of the table (which it really isnt actually ? Do you even follow spanish football ?) Thiago I rate already above Wilshere playing roughly the same position at the moment. Theyve been getting pretty good time and theyve got the stats to show for it. The contributions are very telling go check them out. And please no more BS about how La liga is sub standard and what not, wether its shit teams or this teams or that teams. Arsenal have trouble beating anything really. Its no different to England.

The likes of Tello and Cuenca are wingers and frankly serve a different purpose to what Wilshere does/did and more importantly they score goals. Hence the "in some ways". Wilshere dont get to many of those. Hell intangibles aside just look at the raw stats. Im not going to look them up for you but feel free to be surprised.

Granted hes been injured all season and injury is unfortunate but thats not anyone elses problem really you cant feel sorry for to long about people getting injured its part and parcel of how your rated. If you arent fit to play then you are no good and your value as a player drops end of discussion. What you "did" is like saying Torres is a great forward because he scored lots of goals for liverpool. Unless it led to winning something, its not even a laurel let alone something worth resting on.

The worst thing that couldve happened to him was the how much he had to play at his age in a breakthrough season and then after, its just not smart and it shows everytime Arsenal get a kid hobbling of over the years. Why you think Wengers so careful with Miyachi and Ox now.

Sorry but any barca lineup with regular starters + Cuenca, Tello and Thiago on current form would thrash any Arsenal team with 3 Wilsheres (even at his best). And feel free to cut an Iniesta or Fabregas here or a Pedro there.

Maybe theyll be found out if they play more, but not at the moment they are punching well above their supposed weight in a star studded team.

They must be on amazing form to lose to Osasuna yesterday.

. "LOL barcelona lose to osasuna" isn't an argument


orrrr one could make an equally ignorant argument,

"LOL Arsenal finished with lowest points tally in last 4 years with Wilshere pulling the strings.". (yes petty arguements are petty).
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
February 14 2012 09:50 GMT
#3345
There's a rumor about Hazard going to Totthenam, i think it's the good choice for him if he does so, Totthenam squad isn't stacked like Mancity's or ManU's or Madrid or Barca etc... ones, so ha is guarented to play, and With Modric, Bale and Hazard that would be one of the scariest midfield on earth seriously

Now we can imagine Bale and Modric will quit totthenam next season, in that case i'd prefer him to go to chelsea/arsenal (the one wich get the spot for c1), those teams aren't that stacked and they are mor likely to play C1 in the next years.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 10:30:11
February 14 2012 10:12 GMT
#3346
Jon Toral signs a contract with Arsenal. Barcelona's gonna love that.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
February 14 2012 10:50 GMT
#3347
On February 14 2012 19:12 NuclearJudas wrote:
Jon Toral signs a contract with Arsenal. Barcelona's gonna love that.


Cesc Fabregas 2.0 incoming?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2012 10:51 GMT
#3348
HAPPY CHAMPIONS LE AGUE DAY :3


Bayern vs Barca yummy, going to be good game me thinks! Not all as one sided as one may expect!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2109 Posts
February 14 2012 11:01 GMT
#3349
WOHOOO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTY TONIGHT! Damn i've been waiting for this for so long and finally the day is here for some gooood european football!
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
February 14 2012 11:16 GMT
#3350
--- Nuked ---
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
February 14 2012 11:16 GMT
#3351
On February 14 2012 19:51 Pandemona wrote:
HAPPY CHAMPIONS LE AGUE DAY :3


Bayern vs Barca yummy, going to be good game me thinks! Not all as one sided as one may expect!

bayer leverkusen,not bayerN munich ;O
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 12:32:45
February 14 2012 12:31 GMT
#3352
On February 14 2012 20:16 clementdudu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 19:51 Pandemona wrote:
HAPPY CHAMPIONS LE AGUE DAY :3


Bayern vs Barca yummy, going to be good game me thinks! Not all as one sided as one may expect!

bayer leverkusen,not bayerN munich ;O


LOL t.t i should know this aswell. Being Chelsea fan xD beating Bayern and letting Ballack go to Bayer xD

PS Also being french, just had my £10 bet on this weeks game, gone with 2 way spin on Lyon vs APOEL, With APOEL to win first leg (in Lyon) and APOEL to win the tie over all. How bad are Lyon playing for this to be realistic? xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
February 14 2012 14:07 GMT
#3353
their offense is still pretty good,not as good as it used to be but good enough to score 3 at lyons stadium.as for their defense...its pure shite.really shaky and their confidence is at an all time low.
id bet 3-1 first leg and 2-0 apoel return,but thats just me >.<
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
February 14 2012 17:25 GMT
#3354
Poll: Match winner:

Barcelona (9)
 
82%

Bayer Leverkusen (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Match winner:

(Vote): Bayer Leverkusen
(Vote): Barcelona


Poll: Match winner:

Olympique Lyon (9)
 
82%

APOEL Nicosia (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Match winner:

(Vote): Olympique Lyon
(Vote): APOEL Nicosia


Are you human?
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 19:17:00
February 14 2012 19:04 GMT
#3355
Xavi and Piqué in the terraces.

I have to say, Piqué is playing horrible this year and speaking too much, I wish he had Puyol's Mentality.
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
February 14 2012 19:13 GMT
#3356
thats what boning shakira does to a man ;(
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
February 14 2012 19:43 GMT
#3357
Starting players from barca look really nervous, maybe i am just nervous. :S
Are you human?
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 14 2012 20:04 GMT
#3358
Haha there is another idiot like me who voted for Bayer and Nicosia :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 14 2012 20:07 GMT
#3359
On February 15 2012 05:04 clusen wrote:
Haha there is another idiot like me who voted for Bayer and Nicosia :D


Noo APOEL will win xD i have money on them! They have tooo
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
February 14 2012 20:10 GMT
#3360
Any good streams for Leverkusen Barca game?
Everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, its not the end.
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