EPT2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 166
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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divinesage
Singapore649 Posts
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Nich
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
In terms of linguistic evidence it was meant as a descriptive term. If your playing a sport and a big guy falls on you do you not say ' Ow you fat bastard/fuck' as a statement....same shit imo and nobody throws the racism card at people then. Refusing the handshake....if they punish him then they should punish Wayne Bridge too for skipping the handshake with Terry, skipping the handshake as theres bad blood is a human thing. And Evra should serve a ban for both unsportsmanlike conduct and incitement of a riot x2 Someone skips your handshake you don't grab them and almost cause a fight, you leave it alone and just laugh/smile about it. Your team wins celebrate, but infront of a player that is already upset because he felt like he was singled out by you, that you lied and shit like that is seriously bad sportsmanship. And then he almost caused ANOTHER fight at the end with the celebration infront of Suarez. He didn't move but the other players got pissed with his OTT actions. If I was Suarez I'd of sparked Evra out. | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On February 12 2012 05:05 ZapRoffo wrote: Today might be the death blow to Barça in La Liga, down 2-0 at Osasuna and looking horrible at half. what the hell happened | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
Final Osa 3-2 Barça Well they rested Xavi and Iniesta for CL this week seems like and Fabregas came on late only, Busquets is out injured so they didn't have their top midfield really. Also conditions didn't really favor their style, below freezing temperature, high wind, seemed like actually ice on the field, people were slipping a lot. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
Poor Guardiola, the team is perma-injured and tired after 3 seasons, and he has a small group. | ||
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Fuego
United Kingdom166 Posts
On February 12 2012 00:57 Purple Haze wrote: So, you don't care what anyone wants to say who disagrees with you? Ferguson is a hypocritical old bully, he has nothing to tell me about my club and never will. If Evra had refused to shake Suarez's hand would you be saying he was a disgrace? Or a man of principle? Ferguson agreed with the interviewer and said that Evra shouldn't have celebrated in front of Suarez, he also complemented your club. Dalglish acted like a moron by trying to pretend that every camera in the world was showing the wrong footage and Suarez actually did try to shake Evra's hand. Evra was the one who had the right not to shake hands as he was the one who received the abuse, luckily he has some class though so did try to shake his hand. Bolded: You sir, are just looking for a fight. | ||
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Purple Haze
United Kingdom200 Posts
On February 12 2012 08:53 Fuego wrote: Ferguson agreed with the interviewer and said that Evra shouldn't have celebrated in front of Suarez, he also complemented your club. Dalglish acted like a moron by trying to pretend that every camera in the world was showing the wrong footage and Suarez actually did try to shake Evra's hand. Evra was the one who had the right not to shake hands as he was the one who received the abuse, luckily he has some class though so did try to shake his hand. Bolded: You sir, are just looking for a fight. In relation to your last line, you're the one who started a post on a discussion forum with 'I don't care what you want to say' followed by claiming that an interview I consider to be a steaming pile of shite described the situation perfectly. So I'm not just looking for a fight, rather responding to what you wrote. As for who had the right to avoid a handshake, there is no proof other than Evra's word that he was racially abused, none whatsoever, Suarez was convicted by a kangaroo court desperate to make a point to FIFA purely on the basis of one man's say so, with standards of evidence that have no place in any proceedings that claim to be dealing out justice. Now, this doesn't prove that he didn't racially abuse Evra, but it damn sure doesn't prove that he did. Ultimately only two men will ever know the full truth of the matter, and it's not you and me, so we shouldn't be too quick to say who has the right to be angry with who. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
Congrats Madrid for winning La Liga. | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
ok suarez is not a racist i guess it's normal in uruguay to clean you shoulder after it was touched by a negro... | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 12 2012 06:24 Sated wrote: I remember Guardiola once saying that Barcelona had a whole team of Jack Wilshere's in reserve. Clearly not. Actually in some ways they are better, Wilshere has done precious little in the span he was playing compared to what these kids are already achieving. Pretty sure you could stack your midfield with Wilsheres against those reserves and theyd get skinned. And as much as I like Arsenal his teams done even worse. Osasuna played well, defended solid and played their tactics nicely forcing errors on counters with some nice pressing, always have a chance when conditions are not good. Barca surprisingly got some atrocious offside calls (which is funny for it to happen to big teams). Leagues over now though. Teams have figured them out playing away from home to a large extent. Messi and Fabregas missing sitters the last few weeks doesnt help either. Rather uncharacteristic but it has to happen some time. Only positive is it will motivate them to get back on top again at the very least. And honestly this forcing to shake peoples hands is ridiculous. Didnt really matter before but its a ridiculous rule. Its meaningless if you are forced to do it. Back in the day they just did it anyway. Evra as usual displaying zero grace. Roy Keane and Viera would often not shake hands, same for Keown and Van Nistelrooy, theres quite a few others. But they never gloated at each other. If the kid is butthurt over what he feels is unfair and doesnt want to associate with you then do the same. Suarez isnt much less of a cunt but snubbing a handshake is really minor in my opinion. Maybe Im just old fashioned. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Suarez probably didn't really want shake Evra's hand but i think he was gonna, but Evra actually dropped his hand so Suarez (not really keen on shaking hands annyway) skipped him. I don't know but does it really matter. It's just a fucking handshake, would i shake hands with someone who got me banned and my reputation tarnished and will forever be known in England as a "racist". Fuck no. The whole racist thing. Fuck English FA. They have 99% conviction rate. In the court there would never be a case, not enough evidence. Suarez admits using word that is commonly use by almost anyone in Urugay and in other countries in SA. Suarez is mixed race FFS. And one last thing. Fuck Ferguson. What right he has to say Suarez is a disgrace and should never play for Liverpool again. Should file a complaint or take him to the court for devaluting (is that even a word lol) a Liverpool asset. Or what about KKK merchendise sold near Old Trafford. Will FA investigate that? fucking doubt it. United bias is fucking sickening in the media and FA. rant over | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
On February 12 2012 19:02 Sated wrote: The police banned anyone from selling the fanzine containing the, "Suarez is Innocent" KKK hoods. So there isn't really anything for the FA to investigate. Nice try, though. fair enough. God i wish the clubs would have settled it before the whole FA thing. Ferguson would then tell the media couple lines to boost United profile and we would be done. | ||
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JPP
Finland104 Posts
On February 12 2012 18:08 Rebs wrote: Actually in some ways they are better, Wilshere has done precious little in the span he was playing compared to what these kids are already achieving. Pretty sure you could stack your midfield with Wilsheres against those reserves and theyd get skinned. And as much as I like Arsenal his teams done even worse. No they are not better. Go re-watch the Arsenal-Barcelona match. There is no other teenager in the world that could have done what Wilshere did that night, against the best midfield in the world. You're seriously overrating the Barcelona youngsters based on a few cup games and matches against bottom table teams. At least Wilshere has been a consistent starter so we can make a fair judgement about him. | ||
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