EPT2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 164
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archonOOid
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Purple Haze
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Ysellian
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Purple Haze
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On February 11 2012 22:46 Sated wrote: Saurez not shaking hands, Liverpool still fans booing a player because he was the victim of racial abuse... Stay classy LFC... They're booing Evra because they think he's a liar, as you well know. But stay classy. | ||
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On February 11 2012 22:48 Purple Haze wrote: If Suarez's version of events from the original incident was true why would he possibly shake Evra's hand? to show that he's over it and that the whole issue is dead and buried and that everyone can move the fuck on from what I am fairly certain he himself thinks should never have been as big of an issue as it became. and there united scored! that means they beat their old record of scoring in 42 matches in a row on old trafford - now it's 43.  | ||
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Ysellian
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 This is going to be a rout. | ||
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Purple Haze
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On February 11 2012 22:51 Liquid`Drone wrote: to show that he's over it and that the whole issue is dead and buried and that everyone can move the fuck on from what I am fairly certain he himself thinks should never have been as big of an issue as it became. and there united scored! that means they beat their old record of scoring in 42 matches in a row on old trafford - now it's 43. It's probably easier to move on if your character isn't permanently stained. The idea that a handshake would make everyone move on is ridiculous anyway, and I wouldn't shake the hand of a man I felt had lied to ruin my reputation. | ||
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Lovedrop
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Sated
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Ysellian
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On February 11 2012 23:43 Purple Haze wrote: All controversy aside, we were shite today, absolute garbage. If I never see Downing in a Liverpool shirt again, or on the planet earth for that matter, it'll be too soon, and I can only assume Johnson used his halftime oranges to make a tequila sunrise, he went from being one of our best players in the first half to an utter liability. I don't follow Liverpool all that much, but why didn't Belamy and Adam start today? Especially Adam would have been nice to have on the midfield today. | ||
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Purple Haze
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On February 11 2012 23:45 Sated wrote: Suarez admitted using the word "negro". I don't care where he's from, in this country that is racism. Think about it. If you're going to call someone a cunt, you call them a cunt. You don't need to add their race/sex/nationality in front of it, you're already being offensive. The only reason to add it to the front is because you're being racist/sexist/xenophobic or whatever. He knows that he is racist, and it doesn't surprise me. His track record shows that he is a vile human being - he bit someone when he was playing at a previous club, says it all. EDIT: And sort your lot out. Booing a player for being the victim of racial abuse is the sort of stuff I'd expect from Millwall supporters. He admitted using the word negro in isolation, not attached to any insult, and linguistic experts agreed that in the context he admitted to using it it was not racist. Whether you believe him or not is another question, but don't try and claim he admitted to anything that could be called racial abuse. Saying 'in this country that's racism' is incredibly stupid, considering the conversation took place in Spanish (a language Evra does not speak well, but had chosen to start insulting Suarez in). Generally speaking it's better to consider what the words mean in the language a conversation takes place in, rather than the country it takes place in. That's not as stupid as suggesting that biting someone makes you a racist though. Presumably Roy Keane is also a racist, seeing as he admitted to a premeditated assault on a fellow professional, and is clearly therefore a bad sort. You can be a prick without being a racist. And as has already been mentioned, Evra is being booed because the people booing him believe that he lied, embellishing the incident for sporting gain, at the cost of another mans reputation. | ||
Twisted
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Worst buy ever. He isn't even worth 3 million pounds lol. As for the whole 'negro' thing, I'm under the impression it's just a kind of 'nigga'? Like in the US where African Americans say stuff like, 'yo that shit is dope nigga?!' The 8 match ban was ridiculous anyway, regardless of what version of the story is true. | ||
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Sated
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Purple Haze
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On February 12 2012 00:01 Sated wrote: Anyone who believes that he was using in a purely descriptive sense is naive. There's no reason to say that word to someone on a football pitch. Try and imagine any situation were he would've had to say that word to Evra on the football field and you probably won't be able to think of one. I certainly can't. Most footballing experts/pundits certainly couldn't. And the FA certainly couldn't. He is a racist, "and that's a fact". I said that biting someone shows he is a vile human being, not that it shows he is racist. Don't put words into my mouth. I'd never try to defend what Roy Keane did to Håland. Most United fans I know agree that he is a dick. You clearly tried to imply that seeing as he bit someone he was more likely to be a racist. Secondly, the FA report and Evra himself have both said that they don't consider Suarez a racist. Thirdly, it was confirmed by linguistic experts in the report that you've clearly never read a word of that it is normal in Uruguay to refer to black people or even people with black hair as negro without it having any abusive meaning, it's equivalent to calling someone 'mate', for example. The FA didn't find him guilty based purely on using the word negro, they found him guilty based on Evra's account of the conversation in which he claimed Suarez used it repeatedly in an abusive way. Who you believe in that is up to you, although as there was no proof either way I find it ridiculous that the FA convicted on the basis of one man's word against another. I'd strongly advise you to actually educate yourself on an issue before you come in trying to tell people what is and is not a fact. | ||
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Purple Haze
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On February 11 2012 23:50 Ysellian wrote: I don't follow Liverpool all that much, but why didn't Belamy and Adam start today? Especially Adam would have been nice to have on the midfield today. Bellamy was probably due to his knees, they're pretty dodgy and need to be managed carefully to try and keep him fit as much as possible. Adam has been awful recently but I'd still rather have had him out there than Henderson, who is just totally anonymous. He has a good engine and decent technique but he just doesn't seem to have the balls or the confidence to try and make anything happen. We have to start using Gerrard closer to Suarez though, he's totally wasted in a deep midfield role. And Kelly should be starting ahead of Johnson, he's the best young player we've had come through since Gerrard himself imo. | ||
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