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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17237 Posts
March 07 2005 04:28 GMT
#1
Do you know any? Today I managed to pull off cheese orc vs nelf ^_^

http://home.ripway.com/2005-2/259863/noobelf.w3g <--- replay

I had a lot of fun during this game
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
uidf
Profile Joined April 2004
Seychelles370 Posts
March 07 2005 04:30 GMT
#2
only cheese i can think of are tower rushes and maybe mass summon rushes =/ i dunno
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17237 Posts
March 07 2005 04:35 GMT
#3
like dual orc 2x sh + wards in 2on2? ^^
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 07 2005 05:09 GMT
#4
mass hunts noobelf
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
March 07 2005 05:24 GMT
#5
human
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5412 Posts
March 07 2005 05:37 GMT
#6
chippo
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
March 07 2005 05:52 GMT
#7
orc speed scroll into ud acolytes hihihihi all down
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 07 2005 06:05 GMT
#8
Mass hunts sucks lol.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17237 Posts
March 07 2005 06:23 GMT
#9
mass huntz own noobs, same goes for mass archers, basically - any mass owns noobs And for the strat I used in the rep I saw Grubby pwn some other pro with it
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
March 07 2005 06:42 GMT
#10
The only time I use mass hunts is Elf mirror in which case I grab a PotM, get expo after 3/4 hunts and then constantly harass with superior speed (if he goes archers).

Other than that, mass hunts loses its fire after early game. It works if you are a patient creep jacker though.
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Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
March 07 2005 07:19 GMT
#11
On March 07 2005 15:23 Manit0u wrote:
mass huntz own noobs, same goes for mass archers, basically - any mass owns noobs And for the strat I used in the rep I saw Grubby pwn some other pro with it

any thing owns noobs
and i saw someone pwn some other one with it!
pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
March 07 2005 08:56 GMT
#12
when i played wc3 for about 3hours, i concluded the best strategy was pure riflemen vs all races.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17237 Posts
March 07 2005 09:48 GMT
#13
rifleman/casters is normal valid strat that works on all races, no cheese here :D
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
March 07 2005 10:11 GMT
#14
I absolutely hate when human loads a zepplin full of mortar teams and just camps outside in the trees destroying your base, and the moment you return to fight them off, they just pick them up. If you didn't have any air units by the time they do this you, you're basically screwed.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17237 Posts
March 07 2005 10:44 GMT
#15
and how about mass invis mortars? ^^
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oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
March 07 2005 11:11 GMT
#16
Drow Ranger + Dual AoWar vs Hum is thanks. Works like a charm almost everytime.
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
March 07 2005 12:10 GMT
#17
ive seen a lot of orc tower rushes so i decided one day to do a ne tower rush.

it was another ne. i built towers on 2 sides of his base ( meaning 2 chokes) while distracting with my keeper of the grove. he killed one side and he was sure he wont but i had like 5 others on the other side and ended up winning when i moved them near his base and rooted.

this was classic tho.
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SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
March 07 2005 12:33 GMT
#18
The german player n!FastTurtle always has really cool cheesestrats. I saw him do an undead tower rush on LT it was so cute.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 07 2005 13:31 GMT
#19
Lol, i remember a few patch ago, any solo NE vs ORC on plunder isle is auto win for ORC, cuz all you need is to build towers at the NE base at the start, the wisp can't do shit about it, it would always be to late when the hero comes out.
Rillanon.au
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
March 07 2005 13:35 GMT
#20
Dual crypt super fast ghoul rush by selling TP at start. It's what MadFrog did to FoV in game 1 of the ESWC finals.

Tower rush on TR on close positions with Orc or Human.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 07 2005 13:59 GMT
#21
I'd say the Orc tower creep at the natural on Plunder Isle is pretty cheesy too, because you get a super good item really early, a fortified expansion, mad exp, and next to no damage taken from the creeps at all, ALL because of two towers.

That's definitely a bit cheesy.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-07 14:05:05
March 07 2005 14:04 GMT
#22
Hu can do the same on Plunder. Naels can build two AoWs to block expo enterance, rape the first set of orges silly using just archers and then use shadowmeld to rape the second set of orges too. Can't really think of a towering expo strat for UD however.
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 07 2005 14:53 GMT
#23
On March 07 2005 23:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hu can do the same on Plunder. Naels can build two AoWs to block expo enterance, rape the first set of orges silly using just archers and then use shadowmeld to rape the second set of orges too. Can't really think of a towering expo strat for UD however.


I wasn't aware Human towers had that sort of range, like watch towers do. They can fast expo, but that's not the same thing as cheese. That has it's own set of problems. Also, supposedly Blizzard fixed that little shadowmeld trick, but I haven't tried it myself in awhile, but yeah that used to be pretty cheesy.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
March 07 2005 15:28 GMT
#24
errr well, I dunno if this works anymore (and only then on certain maps), and it'd certainly only work against a newbie...

those flying transports you purchase + bloodmage + peasant
fly behind their minerals
drop the bloodmage, and flamestrike the tree's behind the minerals.
climb back in.
fly into the clearing.
build towers.

I read that somewhere and tried to beat a friend I could never beat. But it turns out that the strat was outdated and the timing is near impossible - so I got pwned again.
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
March 07 2005 18:30 GMT
#25
Mass invisible mortars, urgh :/. I once saw human fast tower at choke to undead's natural on plunder isle then set up shop and paladin harass with holy light and invulnerability after taking early creep (then boots of speed, blah, blah), that was gay as fuck.
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