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-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 09:29:24
July 15 2011 09:24 GMT
#121
On July 14 2011 16:37 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 13:41 Karak wrote:
On July 13 2011 16:48 Zlasher wrote:
Doyle is hardly a notable player at this day and age.


I've played pro (while a student) for nearly 8 years now and have played WSOP events and all that jazz. Doyle is a legend and is one of the top 3 names at the tournament. There are few people more universally respected by players than him.

He's also still quite good.


Yes he's respected.

No he's not that good. You realize he never plays NLHE anymore because he can't compete against the new age anymore lol. The only NLHE he plays is the world series every year, he plays mixed games and stud even if the legendary quote is that he said its "the only pure game left"


You don't have an understanding of the current poker scene, sorry. The reason he plays so many mixed games is cause mixed games are where the best money and action are at right now. The game at the Aria and some of the more private, high stakes mixgames are incredibly juicy. If you want to make a living as a nosebleed pro live these days, you have to play mixed and you have to play it well. I did some interviews with Daniel N and Shaun Deeb a couple months ago breaking down the live mixed game/high stakes game pretty well. You should be able to google em if you are interested. It's fascinating stuff how the game has evolved from the NLHE craze post-Moneymaker era.
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 09:26:40
July 15 2011 09:26 GMT
#122
On July 15 2011 07:47 Zlasher wrote:
Say what you will but Cheong is a great player whether its live, online, cash games, or tournaments. I'm not saying he's a favorite but I'm saying he's one of the better players left in the field. Nobody can really be a true favorite in this event obviously.

Cheong just moved up about doubling his chip stack and moving from 50th to 11th in chips.


Cheong got moved directly to my left very deep in a WSOP event last year. I have never had a player in a live tournament ever make my day a living hell so quickly as Cheong did. He had an incredible game sense and played with reckless abandon. I recall storming off during a break to call a friend and vent about this kid they moved to my left making me tilt so bad. I don't think I've ever done that before in a live donkament. His play on the WSOP FT was so sick. Lots of respect for him.

You couldn't even ship it light back over him when you knew he was stealing or re-stealing because he had no qualms about overjamming deep.
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 15 2011 09:32 GMT
#123
Anyone know the current/next blind level? Want to know how many BB's they have left. Also cool to see Kiwi at Vanessa Rousso's table (I used to have Venessa's picture (with cap + shades and all) as avatar when I rocked micro stakes at PStars :D).
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 15 2011 09:34 GMT
#124
On July 15 2011 18:32 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Anyone know the current/next blind level? Want to know how many BB's they have left. Also cool to see Kiwi at Vanessa Rousso's table (I used to have Venessa's picture (with cap + shades and all) as avatar when I rocked micro stakes at PStars :D).


Previous page..
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 15 2011 09:37 GMT
#125
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote:
i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money


Some people don't make it their goal to make 19k on a 10k buyin.
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 15 2011 09:37 GMT
#126
On July 15 2011 18:34 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 18:32 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Anyone know the current/next blind level? Want to know how many BB's they have left. Also cool to see Kiwi at Vanessa Rousso's table (I used to have Venessa's picture (with cap + shades and all) as avatar when I rocked micro stakes at PStars :D).


Previous page..

Thx, I feel stupid now :D
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 15 2011 09:58 GMT
#127
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote:
i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money


yeah

a pro poker player exploits the hell out of people playing extremely safe until in the money
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 15 2011 10:00 GMT
#128
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote:
i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money

Wow that's so wrong :D.
The mistake of all (read most) beginners in MTT's. If you have that attitude then you are either playing at a level way above your bankroll or you are a very easy exploitable fish (no offense) :D.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 15 2011 10:02 GMT
#129
KIWI IS SO GOOD.

Woooooooo

Fayth told me kiwi made 500k playing poker and fayth himself made 1m+

He never told me how to win though...



Snitches get stiches
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
July 15 2011 10:14 GMT
#130
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote:
i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money


that's great man. good strategy.
too easy
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
July 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#131
uhh.. that's embarrassing seems I'm a bigger fish than i thought^^ good that i only play micro stakes for fun
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 10:41:07
July 15 2011 10:38 GMT
#132
On July 15 2011 19:29 Enox wrote:
uhh.. that's embarrassing seems I'm a bigger fish than i thought^^ good that i only play micro stakes for fun


Well, you are not alone. Many starting MTT players think the same way and is very common.

oh, Shinobi1982 said the same already pretty much.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
nymeria
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States161 Posts
July 15 2011 10:39 GMT
#133
On July 14 2011 16:37 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 13:41 Karak wrote:
On July 13 2011 16:48 Zlasher wrote:
Doyle is hardly a notable player at this day and age.


I've played pro (while a student) for nearly 8 years now and have played WSOP events and all that jazz. Doyle is a legend and is one of the top 3 names at the tournament. There are few people more universally respected by players than him.

He's also still quite good.


Yes he's respected.

No he's not that good. You realize he never plays NLHE anymore because he can't compete against the new age anymore lol. The only NLHE he plays is the world series every year, he plays mixed games and stud even if the legendary quote is that he said its "the only pure game left"


What do you mean he's not that good? You mean, he can't play 16 tables of .25/.50 nlhe for a profit? He didn't sign up to play durrrr for 50,000 hands of 4-tabling $200/$400 hu nlhe?

He never plays nlhe anymore? Do you mean besides from all the hsp and pad episodes he's been on?
What constitutes a new age player? Someone who made their bankroll online during the poker boom? Just because you made millions playing online doesn't mean you have the slightest chance of walking away with anything but the shirt on your back from a live cash game.

Doyle's 15 game televised cash game win streak recently ended. Isn't that enough proof to say that he can compete with internet players on his turf, in live cash games?

You can't name 9 players alive today who can beat Doyle at hold'em.

Like someone else in this thread pointed out, the big money in Vegas isn't in nlhe, it's in mixed games. So that's what the best play. That's what Doyle plays.
zerker2strong
Profile Joined May 2011
775 Posts
July 15 2011 10:43 GMT
#134
On July 15 2011 19:14 exalted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote:
i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money


that's great man. good strategy.


this wil get u in the money with a shitstack and u wil never be able to make it far for the real moneys
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 15 2011 10:49 GMT
#135
hmm i dont see jonathan garneau in the ranking
fuck lag
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 15 2011 10:52 GMT
#136
On July 15 2011 19:49 ZidaneTribal wrote:
hmm i dont see jonathan garneau in the ranking


He is there.. With 330k stack, place 195.

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/11497\End of day 3 chip counts by chips.pdf
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
July 15 2011 10:52 GMT
#137
On July 15 2011 17:28 GetToDaChopa wrote:
If by some stroke of luck he gets far into the tournament to where they take interviews it's going to be great. 'and what do you do for a living?' -- 'i play starcraft' +500 esports fame



Well afaik Kiwi has been playing poker for a living for a while now and Starcraft is more of a side hobby for him.
Also I believe Rekrul has a WSOP HU bracelet, Hevad Khan has made a WSOP ME final table, BigBalls (Ryan Daut) has won a WPT, mig had some big scores as well and obviously Elky is very famous with several titles to his name. So Starcraft players are already pretty well known in the poker scene and TL/SC has been mentioned in interviews plenty of times.
I'm sure I'm forgetting some other players as well.
Anyways, GL Kiwi!
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:41:11
July 15 2011 11:39 GMT
#138
If he gets into top 50 or so, he'll have earned more money in this tournament than anyone in SC2 has as of now. Also, it looks like he's currently already out...
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 15 2011 11:44 GMT
#139
On July 15 2011 20:39 Ciryandor wrote:
If he gets into top 50 or so, he'll have earned more money in this tournament than anyone in SC2 has as of now. Also, it looks like he's currently already out...


I wonder why people keep posting without reading a single post above or previous page.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Tsenister
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom112 Posts
July 15 2011 11:54 GMT
#140
Gl Kiwi. After years of watching the WSOP I'm glad to see people that you can "relate" to play in the actual thing. I hope to play it at least once in my lifetime just for the experience when $10k doesn't mean so much.
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