On July 13 2011 16:48 Zlasher wrote: Doyle is hardly a notable player at this day and age.
I've played pro (while a student) for nearly 8 years now and have played WSOP events and all that jazz. Doyle is a legend and is one of the top 3 names at the tournament. There are few people more universally respected by players than him.
He's also still quite good.
Yes he's respected.
No he's not that good. You realize he never plays NLHE anymore because he can't compete against the new age anymore lol. The only NLHE he plays is the world series every year, he plays mixed games and stud even if the legendary quote is that he said its "the only pure game left"
You don't have an understanding of the current poker scene, sorry. The reason he plays so many mixed games is cause mixed games are where the best money and action are at right now. The game at the Aria and some of the more private, high stakes mixgames are incredibly juicy. If you want to make a living as a nosebleed pro live these days, you have to play mixed and you have to play it well. I did some interviews with Daniel N and Shaun Deeb a couple months ago breaking down the live mixed game/high stakes game pretty well. You should be able to google em if you are interested. It's fascinating stuff how the game has evolved from the NLHE craze post-Moneymaker era.
On July 15 2011 07:47 Zlasher wrote: Say what you will but Cheong is a great player whether its live, online, cash games, or tournaments. I'm not saying he's a favorite but I'm saying he's one of the better players left in the field. Nobody can really be a true favorite in this event obviously.
Cheong just moved up about doubling his chip stack and moving from 50th to 11th in chips.
Cheong got moved directly to my left very deep in a WSOP event last year. I have never had a player in a live tournament ever make my day a living hell so quickly as Cheong did. He had an incredible game sense and played with reckless abandon. I recall storming off during a break to call a friend and vent about this kid they moved to my left making me tilt so bad. I don't think I've ever done that before in a live donkament. His play on the WSOP FT was so sick. Lots of respect for him.
You couldn't even ship it light back over him when you knew he was stealing or re-stealing because he had no qualms about overjamming deep.
Anyone know the current/next blind level? Want to know how many BB's they have left. Also cool to see Kiwi at Vanessa Rousso's table (I used to have Venessa's picture (with cap + shades and all) as avatar when I rocked micro stakes at PStars :D).
On July 15 2011 18:32 Shinobi1982 wrote: Anyone know the current/next blind level? Want to know how many BB's they have left. Also cool to see Kiwi at Vanessa Rousso's table (I used to have Venessa's picture (with cap + shades and all) as avatar when I rocked micro stakes at PStars :D).
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote: i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money
Some people don't make it their goal to make 19k on a 10k buyin.
On July 15 2011 18:32 Shinobi1982 wrote: Anyone know the current/next blind level? Want to know how many BB's they have left. Also cool to see Kiwi at Vanessa Rousso's table (I used to have Venessa's picture (with cap + shades and all) as avatar when I rocked micro stakes at PStars :D).
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote: i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money
yeah
a pro poker player exploits the hell out of people playing extremely safe until in the money
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote: i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money
Wow that's so wrong :D. The mistake of all (read most) beginners in MTT's. If you have that attitude then you are either playing at a level way above your bankroll or you are a very easy exploitable fish (no offense) :D.
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote: i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money
On July 13 2011 16:48 Zlasher wrote: Doyle is hardly a notable player at this day and age.
I've played pro (while a student) for nearly 8 years now and have played WSOP events and all that jazz. Doyle is a legend and is one of the top 3 names at the tournament. There are few people more universally respected by players than him.
He's also still quite good.
Yes he's respected.
No he's not that good. You realize he never plays NLHE anymore because he can't compete against the new age anymore lol. The only NLHE he plays is the world series every year, he plays mixed games and stud even if the legendary quote is that he said its "the only pure game left"
What do you mean he's not that good? You mean, he can't play 16 tables of .25/.50 nlhe for a profit? He didn't sign up to play durrrr for 50,000 hands of 4-tabling $200/$400 hu nlhe?
He never plays nlhe anymore? Do you mean besides from all the hsp and pad episodes he's been on? What constitutes a new age player? Someone who made their bankroll online during the poker boom? Just because you made millions playing online doesn't mean you have the slightest chance of walking away with anything but the shirt on your back from a live cash game.
Doyle's 15 game televised cash game win streak recently ended. Isn't that enough proof to say that he can compete with internet players on his turf, in live cash games?
You can't name 9 players alive today who can beat Doyle at hold'em.
Like someone else in this thread pointed out, the big money in Vegas isn't in nlhe, it's in mixed games. So that's what the best play. That's what Doyle plays.
On July 15 2011 18:22 Enox wrote: i'm not a pro poker player at all, but when im in situations like this, i play extremely safe till im in the money. even if it means that i fold every hand. there's nothing more devastating than leaving a tournament a few spots before the money
that's great man. good strategy.
this wil get u in the money with a shitstack and u wil never be able to make it far for the real moneys
On July 15 2011 17:28 GetToDaChopa wrote: If by some stroke of luck he gets far into the tournament to where they take interviews it's going to be great. 'and what do you do for a living?' -- 'i play starcraft' +500 esports fame
Well afaik Kiwi has been playing poker for a living for a while now and Starcraft is more of a side hobby for him. Also I believe Rekrul has a WSOP HU bracelet, Hevad Khan has made a WSOP ME final table, BigBalls (Ryan Daut) has won a WPT, mig had some big scores as well and obviously Elky is very famous with several titles to his name. So Starcraft players are already pretty well known in the poker scene and TL/SC has been mentioned in interviews plenty of times. I'm sure I'm forgetting some other players as well. Anyways, GL Kiwi!
If he gets into top 50 or so, he'll have earned more money in this tournament than anyone in SC2 has as of now. Also, it looks like he's currently already out...
On July 15 2011 20:39 Ciryandor wrote: If he gets into top 50 or so, he'll have earned more money in this tournament than anyone in SC2 has as of now. Also, it looks like he's currently already out...
I wonder why people keep posting without reading a single post above or previous page.
Gl Kiwi. After years of watching the WSOP I'm glad to see people that you can "relate" to play in the actual thing. I hope to play it at least once in my lifetime just for the experience when $10k doesn't mean so much.
EPT
seems I'm a bigger fish than i thought^^ good that i only play micro stakes for fun 
