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On July 09 2011 23:46 TheImmortal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 08:18 SKC wrote:On July 09 2011 08:07 Jedi Master wrote:[...](if your an RPG fan) is [...] and Mass Effect 2! Mass Effect 2 is no RPG! It's a shooter with Story and Atmo. No Items/No Skilltree/Talents. There are skill trees and items actually. It's not as RPGey as some other titles, but that sentence is wrong. Hell, people call Zelda an RPG sometimes, it's definatelly not a clear definition. ME isn't that diferent from recent RPGs like Dragon Age. Mass effect is not an rpg in the purest form. rpg is a genre formed when final fantasy started. that sort of story and battle menu made rpg games. what you see nowadays that have a role playing feel to them are usually called wrpg. you can argue that mass effect is a role playing game and hence should be called an rpg, but rpg is a genre formed years ago, which has the abbreviation of role playing games, but does not necessarily mean it is a role playing game in the western sense. true rpg do not really convey a sense of freedom cause it's a wat of telling a story that the author wrote rather than writing your own story.
I can't be bothered to explain why this is wrong, so read this.
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On July 09 2011 23:18 Antipathy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 23:09 me_viet wrote:On July 09 2011 23:00 Antipathy wrote:On July 09 2011 22:43 me_viet wrote:
Hey I want to buy the Napoleon/Empire Total war pack, however I already got Napoleon. Is there a way I can buy the pack, but keep napoleon as a gift?
EDIT: I just want to buy Empire, but it's $20 here in Australia...and the whole pack is only $16.99 lol If you bought the bundle, any components of the bundle SHOULD turn into giftable items that you own. At least that's what happened to me when I bought the Potato Sack back during Portal 2 launch. I already owned Super Meat Boy but bought the bundle anyways, ended up being able to gift the extra copy of Super Meat Boy. Really? I bought the Heroes of Might and Magic bundle, and chose 'for myself" at the counter. If I chose 'as a gift" would the individual components be separated? or will it just have the whole pack as a gift? In that scenario, I'm not sure. I would guess that the components would be separated but I couldn't tell you from firsthand experience. All I know is that already owned components of a bundle (at least in the case of the potato sack) are turned into giftable items. EDIT: Scratch that. Check out this link from Steam that explains it: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656
Oh wow, so does that mean I just won't get Napoleon if I buy that pack?
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On July 10 2011 00:40 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 23:46 TheImmortal wrote:On July 09 2011 08:18 SKC wrote:On July 09 2011 08:07 Jedi Master wrote:[...](if your an RPG fan) is [...] and Mass Effect 2! Mass Effect 2 is no RPG! It's a shooter with Story and Atmo. No Items/No Skilltree/Talents. There are skill trees and items actually. It's not as RPGey as some other titles, but that sentence is wrong. Hell, people call Zelda an RPG sometimes, it's definatelly not a clear definition. ME isn't that diferent from recent RPGs like Dragon Age. Mass effect is not an rpg in the purest form. rpg is a genre formed when final fantasy started. that sort of story and battle menu made rpg games. what you see nowadays that have a role playing feel to them are usually called wrpg. you can argue that mass effect is a role playing game and hence should be called an rpg, but rpg is a genre formed years ago, which has the abbreviation of role playing games, but does not necessarily mean it is a role playing game in the western sense. true rpg do not really convey a sense of freedom cause it's a wat of telling a story that the author wrote rather than writing your own story. I don't even know what to say. RPGs did not start at final fantasy. In fact the earlier RPS were modeled after the role playing table games. While wiki isn't the greatest source it at least gives a better picture : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_video_game#History_and_classification RPGs these days have various different sub genres but saying one is not a true RPG is just plain silly. A JRPG is still a RPG same was as Mass Effect is still an RPG.
a genre is a way a game is played. mass effect is a fps. some 10-20 years ago when games were never cross genre, it was very clear then taht games genres are established solely on gameplay.
you have have an adventure game, a point and click, or a fighter or whatever, but all of them relates to gameplay.
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So by your definition, Morrowind is not an RPG because you can shoot bows in first person?
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On July 10 2011 01:05 TheImmortal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 00:40 Numy wrote:On July 09 2011 23:46 TheImmortal wrote:On July 09 2011 08:18 SKC wrote:On July 09 2011 08:07 Jedi Master wrote:[...](if your an RPG fan) is [...] and Mass Effect 2! Mass Effect 2 is no RPG! It's a shooter with Story and Atmo. No Items/No Skilltree/Talents. There are skill trees and items actually. It's not as RPGey as some other titles, but that sentence is wrong. Hell, people call Zelda an RPG sometimes, it's definatelly not a clear definition. ME isn't that diferent from recent RPGs like Dragon Age. Mass effect is not an rpg in the purest form. rpg is a genre formed when final fantasy started. that sort of story and battle menu made rpg games. what you see nowadays that have a role playing feel to them are usually called wrpg. you can argue that mass effect is a role playing game and hence should be called an rpg, but rpg is a genre formed years ago, which has the abbreviation of role playing games, but does not necessarily mean it is a role playing game in the western sense. true rpg do not really convey a sense of freedom cause it's a wat of telling a story that the author wrote rather than writing your own story. I don't even know what to say. RPGs did not start at final fantasy. In fact the earlier RPS were modeled after the role playing table games. While wiki isn't the greatest source it at least gives a better picture : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_video_game#History_and_classification RPGs these days have various different sub genres but saying one is not a true RPG is just plain silly. A JRPG is still a RPG same was as Mass Effect is still an RPG. a genre is a way a game is played. mass effect is a fps. some 10-20 years ago when games were never cross genre, it was very clear then taht games genres are established solely on gameplay. you have have an adventure game, a point and click, or a fighter or whatever, but all of them relates to gameplay.
An FPS games 10-20 years ago you couldn't look up for move properly. Does that mean fps games these days aren't fps games since the gameplay is different? A genre isn't defined by specifics ,more the concepts.
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ahh can anyone clear up my query?? Steam sale ending soon T__T
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On July 10 2011 01:34 me_viet wrote:
ahh can anyone clear up my query?? Steam sale ending soon T__T
If you buy it for yourself you won't get NTW as a gift, but you will definitively get the rest and all the other DLC. However if you buy it as a gift I have no idea if you could retrieve the rest of the components but I doubt it.
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wich one of the splintercell series is good btw?
nvm, new sales up!
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Terraria for $2.50 is highway robbery imo (I would have paid $20+ for it when it came out). Even if you spend 30 hours playing it and run out of things to do, they patch the game with insane amounts of content every few weeks giving you more and more stuff to do.
just look at: Terraria change log
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Looks like the sales is picking right back up insane stuff on offer, portal 2, dead space, neverwinter nights, duke nukem forever.
I personally went straight for $2.49 terraria, that's just too insane to pass on. Still debating over dead space 2 and duke nukem forever.
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On July 10 2011 02:05 Toshihito_TL wrote:
Still debating over dead space 2 and duke nukem forever.
dont go for the duke, dead space 2 is great though
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Hmmm debating buying Portal 2, 25$ still seems too much tho.
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everyone buy terraria right now.
now.
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Finally that X3 pack. I've been waiting for that one ever since this sale started.
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On July 10 2011 02:08 FragtaLe wrote:
Hmmm debating buying Portal 2, 25$ still seems too much tho.
eh good price for a pretty new game.
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On July 10 2011 01:57 Bloodash wrote:
wich one of the splintercell series is good btw?
nvm, new sales up!
Probably late but, I liked Chaos Theory lots.
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Those poor poor people who buy DN:F even with a sale 
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Lol sucks for the dude who bought Portal 2 yesterday. Although, it's not so bad giving Valve some creds.
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