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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
October 14 2011 11:10 GMT
#4221
From twitter:

"You will be able to pre-load #BF3 on distribution services that sell the PC game and support pre-loading. Starts 10.21."

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
October 14 2011 11:55 GMT
#4222
On October 14 2011 20:10 Grettin wrote:
From twitter:

"You will be able to pre-load #BF3 on distribution services that sell the PC game and support pre-loading. Starts 10.21."



I hope steam is included.. I don't want to reinstall Origin
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 12:04:12
October 14 2011 12:00 GMT
#4223
On October 13 2011 17:14 zKamiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 07:21 blade55555 wrote:
On October 13 2011 07:12 Catch]22 wrote:
Actually, its just about you justifying not wanting to pay


this. Pirates will always try to make "Justifiable" reasons to why they should pirate instead of buy lol.


This is so true. However, EA made this really easy for pirates to justify. "We're going to move all of our games onto our service that when you agree to use it, you give us access to look at your computer. Oh and it's behind every other competitor." Origin is a terrible, terrible service. Not only is it terrible, but they have the ability to delete your account and remove your games. This was a threat EA released when people were playing on modded BF3 Beta Servers. This could mean the loss of a dozen or more games for people, just for clicking on the wrong server.

I will not be buying the game on PC, nor will I pirate the game. I like DICE and really enjoy their games. I will be getting it instead on console. I'd rather have lesser graphics and less people in game than have to install Origin.

There are problems with this game.

1) Hit Detection. Their netcode for the client side hit detection is pretty bad. On Metro, you had to have a low ping to make a shotgun work, as often a high ping would result this. You getting a shot off close range, getting a hit marker, then dying, and then seeing your opponent run around with 100% health. Frustrating.

2) Squads. Trying to get into a game with one friend was near impossible let alone trying to get into the same game with 2 or 3. There are more but they've said they're working on it or it's been fixed already.

3) Maps. I need to know there's alot of the and that they're going to play differently. I want big maps and small maps and everything inbetween.

TL;DR: I wont buy the game on PC because of Origin and will wait until most major bugs are fixed after opening day.



squads have obviously been fixed, its battlefield lol....

talking about maps means you have never played a battlefield before...cause every single one has had amazing maps.

as for hit detection, they have said everything is better in retail. for me personally, the hit detection was almost perfect besides the running = more dmg bug.

i feel like i would know since I managed to get so many headshots with bolt action rifles.
young ho
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 14 2011 12:19 GMT
#4224
On October 14 2011 17:34 Percutio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 17:14 procyonlotor wrote:
On October 14 2011 17:05 Probe1 wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:21 Westy wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:05 Keitzer wrote:
On October 14 2011 13:56 Westy wrote:
I have just found out that because im from the UK I have to wait 3 extra days to play than those from the US. I thought for PC it would be a global release on the 25th. But it seems not.

I would like to know if anyone here can think of a reason for doing that? It seems ludicrous to have such a big gap in release dates for a multiplayer and esports focused game.


Even pre-order through origin?

edit: you know what? they probably want optimal play servers for when each goes up, that way the US (or whatever server it happen to be) isn't being bombarded by other countries while natives are trying to log in

Happens in other games like WoW (realm hopping when your main server is offline), LoL (go to EU when NA is down for maint), etc.....

They probably want to make sure the US servers are stable the US people before setting up the EU servers (which may or may not crash, causing what I just explained above)


That... just doesn't make any sense? If they release it everywhere at the same time, people would just play on their own servers. However, the fact that US gets the game at least 2 days before means people will be using VPN's and stuff to play on the US servers. So it will actually be achieving the opposite of what you stated.

Also, It gets released for most of Europe on the 27th, but then for the UK on the 28th. So that means when I play I will be a day behind on unlocks and thus at a big disadvantage, especially regarding jets and other vehicles.

Ah come on it's not like it's a tournament! Sure you'll be one day behind. People will play more or less. Battlefield has always been open to new players. You'll technically be a disadvantage and things will suck for a little bit but it's not like it's going to be imbalanced or impossible. Just a little harder.


Don't you know that bushes are the great equalizer in this game? No number of hi-tech gadgets and hardware can stand up to the ruthless cunning of a man hiding in a bush.

For the love of god let explosives kill bushes...

Infrared Scope laughs at your bush monsters.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 14 2011 12:31 GMT
#4225
On October 14 2011 21:00 soullogik wrote:
as for hit detection, they have said everything is better in retail. for me personally, the hit detection was almost perfect besides the running = more dmg bug.

i feel like i would know since I managed to get so many headshots with bolt action rifles.


Yeah, exactly. Because the hit detection is client-side. That means you give an enemy a headshot, and in his point of view he's already behind a corner.

Also can you give a quote / source where they said it would be better in retail? I only know of this:
+ Show Spoiler +
10. Why is the hit detection seemingly different from Battlefield: Bad Company 2?
The netcode is one of the many things that we are testing as part of the Open Beta and is not necessarily reflective of the final retail game. The DICE team appreciates and has heard the feedback you’ve provided and is further optimizing online play.

They only say they will play around with it, and maybe change something. Or leave everything as it is.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
October 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#4226
On October 14 2011 17:34 Percutio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 17:14 procyonlotor wrote:
On October 14 2011 17:05 Probe1 wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:21 Westy wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:05 Keitzer wrote:
On October 14 2011 13:56 Westy wrote:
I have just found out that because im from the UK I have to wait 3 extra days to play than those from the US. I thought for PC it would be a global release on the 25th. But it seems not.

I would like to know if anyone here can think of a reason for doing that? It seems ludicrous to have such a big gap in release dates for a multiplayer and esports focused game.


Even pre-order through origin?

edit: you know what? they probably want optimal play servers for when each goes up, that way the US (or whatever server it happen to be) isn't being bombarded by other countries while natives are trying to log in

Happens in other games like WoW (realm hopping when your main server is offline), LoL (go to EU when NA is down for maint), etc.....

They probably want to make sure the US servers are stable the US people before setting up the EU servers (which may or may not crash, causing what I just explained above)


That... just doesn't make any sense? If they release it everywhere at the same time, people would just play on their own servers. However, the fact that US gets the game at least 2 days before means people will be using VPN's and stuff to play on the US servers. So it will actually be achieving the opposite of what you stated.

Also, It gets released for most of Europe on the 27th, but then for the UK on the 28th. So that means when I play I will be a day behind on unlocks and thus at a big disadvantage, especially regarding jets and other vehicles.

Ah come on it's not like it's a tournament! Sure you'll be one day behind. People will play more or less. Battlefield has always been open to new players. You'll technically be a disadvantage and things will suck for a little bit but it's not like it's going to be imbalanced or impossible. Just a little harder.


Don't you know that bushes are the great equalizer in this game? No number of hi-tech gadgets and hardware can stand up to the ruthless cunning of a man hiding in a bush.

For the love of god let explosives kill bushes...


Don't you know nature occurring plant fibers are way more resilience than the synthetic fiber (Kevlar armor) you wear? It is proven than nature still a class above human.
Leenock the Punisher
bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
October 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#4227
Would this run fine on:

8800GTS
Q6600
4Gb ram

Also, the whole version deal is weird. One finnish shop has pre-order possibility, but if its not the limited edition then does it include the physical warfare pack and/or the kar... whatever maps? I know it would be on DVD...
Tasteless: "What was it Hans Solo was frozen in? Kryptonite?" Artosis: "Lol, no. Thats the stuff that hurts Batman."
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
October 14 2011 14:42 GMT
#4228
On October 14 2011 20:55 Clow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 20:10 Grettin wrote:
From twitter:

"You will be able to pre-load #BF3 on distribution services that sell the PC game and support pre-loading. Starts 10.21."



I hope steam is included.. I don't want to reinstall Origin


Nope, won't be and most likely never will.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
October 14 2011 17:47 GMT
#4229
On October 14 2011 21:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 17:34 Percutio wrote:
On October 14 2011 17:14 procyonlotor wrote:
On October 14 2011 17:05 Probe1 wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:21 Westy wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:05 Keitzer wrote:
On October 14 2011 13:56 Westy wrote:
I have just found out that because im from the UK I have to wait 3 extra days to play than those from the US. I thought for PC it would be a global release on the 25th. But it seems not.

I would like to know if anyone here can think of a reason for doing that? It seems ludicrous to have such a big gap in release dates for a multiplayer and esports focused game.


Even pre-order through origin?

edit: you know what? they probably want optimal play servers for when each goes up, that way the US (or whatever server it happen to be) isn't being bombarded by other countries while natives are trying to log in

Happens in other games like WoW (realm hopping when your main server is offline), LoL (go to EU when NA is down for maint), etc.....

They probably want to make sure the US servers are stable the US people before setting up the EU servers (which may or may not crash, causing what I just explained above)


That... just doesn't make any sense? If they release it everywhere at the same time, people would just play on their own servers. However, the fact that US gets the game at least 2 days before means people will be using VPN's and stuff to play on the US servers. So it will actually be achieving the opposite of what you stated.

Also, It gets released for most of Europe on the 27th, but then for the UK on the 28th. So that means when I play I will be a day behind on unlocks and thus at a big disadvantage, especially regarding jets and other vehicles.

Ah come on it's not like it's a tournament! Sure you'll be one day behind. People will play more or less. Battlefield has always been open to new players. You'll technically be a disadvantage and things will suck for a little bit but it's not like it's going to be imbalanced or impossible. Just a little harder.


Don't you know that bushes are the great equalizer in this game? No number of hi-tech gadgets and hardware can stand up to the ruthless cunning of a man hiding in a bush.

For the love of god let explosives kill bushes...

Infrared Scope laughs at your bush monsters.


Bush monster uses Tactical Flashlight.

It's super effective!
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
October 14 2011 23:40 GMT
#4230
I wonder if I can use my key in origin to register the game on steam...

Again, I'd wager on having to use BFlog anyway so does it really matter? Maybe we can even log onto BFlog without origin and play it, but is it really origin people are upset with? not bflog?
XerrolAvengerII
Profile Joined January 2010
United States510 Posts
October 15 2011 00:23 GMT
#4231
On October 15 2011 08:40 Catch]22 wrote:
I wonder if I can use my key in origin to register the game on steam...

Again, I'd wager on having to use BFlog anyway so does it really matter? Maybe we can even log onto BFlog without origin and play it, but is it really origin people are upset with? not bflog?


its both, BC2 ingame server system was better, and origin, is just a violation of human rights... but putting the game on steam, or mimicking the steam EULA would make a lot of people happier.
Hey! Hey! Can I interest you in some fruit? Would you like a Banana!?...
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
October 15 2011 00:52 GMT
#4232
On October 14 2011 23:42 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 20:55 Clow wrote:
On October 14 2011 20:10 Grettin wrote:
From twitter:

"You will be able to pre-load #BF3 on distribution services that sell the PC game and support pre-loading. Starts 10.21."



I hope steam is included.. I don't want to reinstall Origin


Nope, won't be and most likely never will.



Never say never:

Battlefield 3 on Steam?!
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
October 15 2011 01:12 GMT
#4233
I am really disappointed in console support in the tournament. While I do understand it is superior revenue market ( less piracy, bigger revenue etc.) my only argument is the simple mechanics. A thumb movement is far more inferior to a mouse (whole hand) movement. I've watched some Halo games at MLG stream and it made me sad at the reaction time of players, for example in close quarter combat or sniping. As a former CS 1.6 player it makes me cry. There is no way in which a single finger can be faster and more precise. It boils down to a mechanics, that's all. However I will agree that a console aiming is harder to master as a whole, than a mouse one, but on the pro level and on a mass level it is inferior.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
October 15 2011 06:27 GMT
#4234
On October 15 2011 10:12 Jochan wrote:
I am really disappointed in console support in the tournament. While I do understand it is superior revenue market ( less piracy, bigger revenue etc.) my only argument is the simple mechanics. A thumb movement is far more inferior to a mouse (whole hand) movement. I've watched some Halo games at MLG stream and it made me sad at the reaction time of players, for example in close quarter combat or sniping. As a former CS 1.6 player it makes me cry. There is no way in which a single finger can be faster and more precise. It boils down to a mechanics, that's all. However I will agree that a console aiming is harder to master as a whole, than a mouse one, but on the pro level and on a mass level it is inferior.


The entire game is balanced around consoles, and has no competitive future on PC. deal with it
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
October 15 2011 07:29 GMT
#4235
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/lcf7d/eaorigin_id_changer_for_windows/

This will change your nickname in battlefield 3/origin. I tested it, it seems to work.
Quote?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 08:46:05
October 15 2011 08:23 GMT
#4236
On October 15 2011 16:29 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/lcf7d/eaorigin_id_changer_for_windows/

This will change your nickname in battlefield 3/origin. I tested it, it seems to work.


I wouldn't touch this unless EA approves with it, but thats just me.

e. On the other hand, hard to say. Since you can change your name on the mobileside or some shit so why not in this case
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 15 2011 09:06 GMT
#4237
hype 6 days until we can pre-load, 10 until we will be playing :D. Can't...fucking...wait :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
znag
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany32 Posts
October 15 2011 09:12 GMT
#4238
Dice and EA presented the multiplayer maps for BF3. This link is in German, but the pictures alone will do it. These maps look awesome. Especially Damavand Peak sounds interesting...

BFcom.org
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
October 15 2011 09:13 GMT
#4239
On October 15 2011 10:12 Jochan wrote:
I am really disappointed in console support in the tournament. While I do understand it is superior revenue market ( less piracy, bigger revenue etc.) my only argument is the simple mechanics. A thumb movement is far more inferior to a mouse (whole hand) movement. I've watched some Halo games at MLG stream and it made me sad at the reaction time of players, for example in close quarter combat or sniping. As a former CS 1.6 player it makes me cry. There is no way in which a single finger can be faster and more precise. It boils down to a mechanics, that's all. However I will agree that a console aiming is harder to master as a whole, than a mouse one, but on the pro level and on a mass level it is inferior.


completely besides the FACT that BF is already super popular on PC vs. Consoles... so they're just promoting it so more people get on-board with it (aka, coming from the COD series into theirs)
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
October 15 2011 09:22 GMT
#4240
On October 15 2011 18:12 znag wrote:
Dice and EA presented the multiplayer maps for BF3. This link is in German, but the pictures alone will do it. These maps look awesome. Especially Damavand Peak sounds interesting...

BFcom.org


Thanks for the link. Maps doesn't look that good to me, though. But i guess i need to play them before really commentating..

Glad we are still getting those old BF2 maps.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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