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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 29 2011 10:30 GMT
#2321
Great, DICE hasn't learn anything from the past when it comes to the shotguns etc.

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
September 29 2011 10:37 GMT
#2322
On September 29 2011 19:30 Grettin wrote:
Great, DICE hasn't learn anything from the past when it comes to the shotguns etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syW578Mm6EY


yeah it seems preety annoying that you can snipe with preety much any weapon. Havent even played yet, and im already getting dissapointed.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
September 29 2011 10:38 GMT
#2323
lol hes almost sniping with that shotgun, that's retarded.
Merkd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 10:40:54
September 29 2011 10:40 GMT
#2324
I know this is a game obviously but shotguns arnt just lethal in a 20 yard range like alot of games portray...
They fill you with false hopes, they speak visions from their own minds.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 29 2011 10:41 GMT
#2325
On September 29 2011 19:40 Merkd wrote:
I know this is a game obviously but shotguns arnt just lethal in a 20 yard range like alot of games portray...


Thats right, but when shotgun is even more powerful in long range than sniper rifle, then there is something wrong with the game 'balance'.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
September 29 2011 10:42 GMT
#2326
On September 29 2011 19:40 Merkd wrote:
I know this is a game obviously but shotguns arnt just lethal in a 20 yard range like alot of games portray...


This is also a good point, Just because in some games shotguns are point blank things does not mean every game needs to be like that.
Merkd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
September 29 2011 10:43 GMT
#2327
On September 29 2011 19:41 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:40 Merkd wrote:
I know this is a game obviously but shotguns arnt just lethal in a 20 yard range like alot of games portray...


Thats right, but when shotgun is even more powerful in long range than sniper rifle, then there is something wrong with the game 'balance'.


Ahh ok, well then ye there is something up there haha.
They fill you with false hopes, they speak visions from their own minds.
Slegg
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic75 Posts
September 29 2011 10:55 GMT
#2328
The problem isnt with the shotgun, its the red dot which pretty much shows you where to aim to get the perfect shot... if its anything like bc2 it will much more balanced on hardcore mode.
kickazs
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway540 Posts
September 29 2011 11:00 GMT
#2329
ding ding ding ding
Terr
Profile Joined October 2010
237 Posts
September 29 2011 11:01 GMT
#2330
On September 29 2011 19:55 Slegg wrote:
The problem isnt with the shotgun, its the red dot which pretty much shows you where to aim to get the perfect shot... if its anything like bc2 it will much more balanced on hardcore mode.

Do you even know how shotguns work? Shotguns are supposed to have a wide spray of bullets that becomes very weak from medium to long range. While in BF3 they behave like an one-hit-kill assault rifle. That's just broken.
"How peaceful it must be for you, to have a mind unburdened by thought." - Protoss Zealot
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
September 29 2011 11:05 GMT
#2331
Okay now there is a download button on the origin site, but it doesn't work yet.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Slegg
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic75 Posts
September 29 2011 11:06 GMT
#2332
On September 29 2011 20:01 Terr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:55 Slegg wrote:
The problem isnt with the shotgun, its the red dot which pretty much shows you where to aim to get the perfect shot... if its anything like bc2 it will much more balanced on hardcore mode.

Do you even know how shotguns work? Shotguns are supposed to have a wide spray of bullets that becomes very weak from medium to long range. While in BF3 they behave like an one-hit-kill assault rifle. That's just broken.


Oh I didnt mean it as in realism, I meant for game balance that without the red triangle shotguns at mid-long range mostly dont hit/just take away some hit points without killing the guy (the one hit kills are from headshots which are made easy by the red triangle above enemies). In my experience anyway, I may be wrong here.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
September 29 2011 11:07 GMT
#2333
On September 29 2011 19:41 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:40 Merkd wrote:
I know this is a game obviously but shotguns arnt just lethal in a 20 yard range like alot of games portray...


Thats right, but when shotgun is even more powerful in long range than sniper rifle, then there is something wrong with the game 'balance'.

You have obviously never played BFBC2 or BF3. I played the hell out of BC2 and while in the beginning a lot of people used the shotty with the range upgrade, most of them realized after about 2 weeks that a sniper was 100x better. Anything longer than the range in the video and it gets very hard to hit someone with, and even on hardcore mode it's not a 1-hit kill from a certain distance (source: I only play hardcore mode in BC2).
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 11:14:21
September 29 2011 11:12 GMT
#2334
On September 29 2011 20:01 Terr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:55 Slegg wrote:
The problem isnt with the shotgun, its the red dot which pretty much shows you where to aim to get the perfect shot... if its anything like bc2 it will much more balanced on hardcore mode.

Do you even know how shotguns work? Shotguns are supposed to have a wide spray of bullets that becomes very weak from medium to long range. While in BF3 they behave like an one-hit-kill assault rifle. That's just broken.


its called a slug.
read up, shotguns aren't long range but they have range...

not to mention most guns in bf3 kill fast.
young ho
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
September 29 2011 11:14 GMT
#2335
So uhh .. Where is the "download beta" button in origin ?
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
kickazs
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway540 Posts
September 29 2011 11:16 GMT
#2336
I think they messed up the timer, remember someone said 2 pm CEST yesterday, gonna see GSTL until then.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
September 29 2011 11:26 GMT
#2337
On September 29 2011 20:07 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 19:41 Grettin wrote:
On September 29 2011 19:40 Merkd wrote:
I know this is a game obviously but shotguns arnt just lethal in a 20 yard range like alot of games portray...


Thats right, but when shotgun is even more powerful in long range than sniper rifle, then there is something wrong with the game 'balance'.

You have obviously never played BFBC2 or BF3. I played the hell out of BC2 and while in the beginning a lot of people used the shotty with the range upgrade, most of them realized after about 2 weeks that a sniper was 100x better. Anything longer than the range in the video and it gets very hard to hit someone with, and even on hardcore mode it's not a 1-hit kill from a certain distance (source: I only play hardcore mode in BC2).

Slug shotguns have much more utility, you can use them at ridiculous range and still storm mcoms effectively, which you cant with the sniper rifles due to different scopes.
The slug shogun also has an advantage because it has virtually no bullet drop, even at ranges where the sniper rounds drop by like 4 in game feet.
Also the slug shotgun is 1 hit kill at all ranges on HC, ive gotten kills into attacker spawn from the cliff on atica harbour area 1 without headshotting.
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
September 29 2011 11:43 GMT
#2338
okay, http://www.bf3timer.com/ is still giving me shit and telling me i have to wait another 5+hrs!??!! am i really gunna have to play this on an xbox? its racism damnit, consoles get it 1st or what?
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Skipvth
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands180 Posts
September 29 2011 11:58 GMT
#2339
downloading the beta
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
September 29 2011 11:59 GMT
#2340
On September 29 2011 20:43 rebuffering wrote:
okay, http://www.bf3timer.com/ is still giving me shit and telling me i have to wait another 5+hrs!??!! am i really gunna have to play this on an xbox? its racism damnit, consoles get it 1st or what?


timer was way off for closed beta release
young ho
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