Stepmania: Let's Play - Page 3

On December 03 2010 08:02 Judicator wrote:
Your feet can theoretically keep up, that's not the issue, it's the balance issue. For the more ridiculous songs, you will be using some kind of aid to maintain your balance as you move your feet accordingly.

On December 04 2010 10:26 StimCraft wrote:


False =)

On December 04 2010 12:35 Judicator wrote:


If you can find me video evidence, I'll be in your debt.

On December 04 2010 12:50 Grokken wrote:


It's you who have to prove that your feet can actually keep up, not the other way around. Besides, why do you think pad player uses a bar? It's the balance aid you're talking about.

Pad players are nowhere near the speed of keyboard players, and never will be...

On December 04 2010 13:00 Judicator wrote:


That's my point, you have to support yourself in some way or you will lose your balance.

Keyboard players is duh.

I don't know if you are saying false to which part of my original statement. The fact that your feet won't be able to keep up (obviously to some of songs out there) or the fact that balance is the issue.

On December 04 2010 13:11 SolHeiM wrote:


Sure, feet will never be able to be as fast as fingers when playing StepMania/DDR, but it's not that big of a difference. I point you to Mr. "Mad Matt", and his insane footspeeds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PiRRXGeSr8

Check out his youtube channel for more sick footspeed videos.

And anyone that takes DDR/ITG seriously plays with the handlebar.

On December 04 2010 13:46 Judicator wrote:
Because when you play at home, you don't always have a bar. Either way I see where the confusion is coming from though. I was addressing that your feet can keep up if you can keep your balance given that the song you are doing is designed for feet and not keyboard.

On December 04 2010 14:01 Grokken wrote:


Well, they can't. If they could keep up, they would be just as fast wouldn't they? Then how come pad players can't even get close to the speed of keyboard players?

On December 04 2010 16:37 Judicator wrote:


Why are you trying to argue a point that I already stated and agreed with you and the other dude on?

So a song designed for pad players is impossible then by your logic? Really? Do people just read the first few words of posts again?

On December 04 2010 23:49 Grokken wrote:


You never said anything like it, what you were saying is that pad players can move their feet fast enough to keep up, and that balance was the issue. What I am saying is that you are wrong and that pad players cannot move their feet even close to fast enough to keep up with keyboard players. You never agreed with any of my points.

Why would a song designed for pad players be impossible? Pad songs are very easy in general, the only really hard ones are those with a lot of bpm changes and mines.

On December 05 2010 03:44 Judicator wrote:


You really misunderstood me, why do you think I asked for a video of someone's feet keeping up to the speeds of a keyboard song in the first place?

I was trying emphasize that you as a keyboard user do not need to worry about balance and it's not so much the physical limitations of feet versus fingers (beyond 2 contacts versus 4 contacts), but more that the actions are inherently more complicated.

HAHA, nice picture StimCraft. :D

Yes, let's get back to stepmania.

On December 03 2010 08:02 Judicator wrote:
Your feet can theoretically keep up, that's not the issue, it's the balance issue. For the more ridiculous songs, you will be using some kind of aid to maintain your balance as you move your feet accordingly.

On December 02 2010 12:57 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
I have no idea what shipping costs are these days. I have a DDRGame metal pad myself (got it from a friend used) (http://www.ddrgame.com/ddrmetalpad.html) which works okayish (considering that I can't pass anything above a 10 footer without a bar on feet these days.) If you're willing to spend the bucks for it, Cobalt Fluxes are awesome and last pretty long. The CFs we had at the DDR club during my ugrad lasted at least 2-3 years without major problems, I think. They're like nearly 300 dollars each, though.

There's also the iON metal dance pads, but I don't know much about those. The only non-arcade metal pads I've actually played on are CFs and DDRGame pads. I really hate playing on foam pads, so I avoid those whenever possible, but if you're okay with those, I heard the RedOctane Ignition pads are decent.

Check on stepmania.com to see if they have any info regarding PS2 to USB converters. My friend has one of those, but I currently have no idea where he is.

On December 03 2010 08:07 SaetZero wrote:
i see someone talking good real pads

i have a CF, it works good... had it for about 1.5 years and its have issues registering... but i average about 5 hours of hard play a week, for 1.5 years lol

so CF needs maintenence every so often, then its fine

IONs are good

but for a PAIR, you probably want some Ignition foam pads, they arent too bad price wise and i passed Legend of Max for the first time ever on one way back in the day

On December 05 2010 13:28 Zona wrote:
Holy shit at those feet videos...If that's the endgame for pad play, I'm not sure I'd enjoy it. But I have plenty of room to improve before that kind of play becomes necessary...

I'm not ready to shell out ~300 (x2!) for Cobalt Fluxes just yet, as good as their reputation might be...