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StimCraft
Profile Joined March 2010
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 18:23:26
November 29 2010 02:51 GMT
#1
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Stepmania is a freeware, PC clone of the popular DDR and ITG franchises. The game is past it's prime, but still fun nonetheless.

Getting all-in'd a lot? DT's? Terran OP? Toss EZ? Sneaky Sneak Sneakalicious Zerg? You and I both know you can't afford throwing another expensive gaming mouse at your imported Korean girl poster. Exert your energy through songs on Stepmania. Just don't break your keyboard or leg. This game can be played with your keyboard or dancepad.

Bonus: Should you use your keyboard, you should see an increase in your fingers' endurance and response. There isn't any mouse clicking or orienting like in Osu, though, so you won't see an increase in precision.

DDR Machine. That one awkward, spastic kid visiting the arcade never looked so cool.
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Note: The songs get to be so difficult that past a certain point, you can't play them with your feet anymore. Yes, even you, Super Saiyan Goku.

Getting Started:

Install whichever version works best with your computer/needs. Probably v4.
Link: Stepmania Program

Funny picture...who knew the home screen was so hilarious
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style: single play: have fun. explanation: engage in s&mtothemax. available options depend on how many players are joined. LOL
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Packs are sets of songs or simfiles. You'll need something to play, as the Stepmania doesn't come with any pre-installed songs. Most songs/packs are in compressed (zipped) format to save on server space and bandwidth usage. Download a decompression program such as 7zip, winzip, winrar, or something of that sort to unzip your packs/songs.

What it looks like if you don't have any packs...I guess this is as close as one gets to unlocking perpetual motion
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Some packs include DDR, IntoTheGroove, general video game themes, anime, community collaborations, etc. Anything you can think of...from Sands of Time from ChronoCross to Geno's Forest to Candy from DDR to Crazy Japanese Anime. If it screams nostalgia, difficult-like, or quirky-ness, it'll be somewhere. I can't remember if they have any Starcraft ones.

Link to Packs:
Direct Downloads...You're Welcome =)
More Direct Downloads

Thanks to the forums and people for hosting. You guys rock.

Injecting [Stim...ha]Packs
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If you pull them out without using a program to extract, they will all be shoved into the same directory. Stepmania doesn't like this. You need to have PACK/SONG/(SONGPARTS) not PACK/(SONGPARTS1)&(SONGPARTS2)&(n). The songs need to be in individual folders inside the pack. All packs need to be placed inside the Songs directory within your Stepmania folder


Equipment/Setup
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Pads consist of Foam, Plastic, Metal, and Acrylic/Metal (Like the DDR machines) with USB, PS2, XBOX, or GC connections. For anything other than USB, you'll need a converter hub. Get a pad based on your needs... level of play, frequency of play, and price range. Something to keep in-mind is that (cheaper) foam pads slide around quite a bit. Playing Max 300 will probably be the last song you can AA on a foam pad.

You'll need to change/add keys for SM to recognize if you plan on using a dance pad. Just go to the joymap options in the main menu to make your pad operable.

So, you already have a dance pad for PS2 or XBOX, but now you need a converter hub to turn your console end into USB for the computer to recognize. Many different kinds. I came across mine at Walmart one day not even looking for one. At $10, it comes with 1 port for PS2, 1 for XBOX, 1 for GC, and 2 additional USB's. Others double the more commonly used PS2 slot, so you don't have to buy two in order to play multi-player or double. I later bought one of these, too. Converters are great for emulators, also (with games that you already have purchased of course).

List of USB Adapters/Converters

The converter in question. Erm discussion. The Gamemon Universal USB Converter
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TV setup
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VGA to VGA [image loading]

VGA to Component [image loading]

set your output to singular monitor. You'll most likely be using your laptop and you don't want to fry it. Remember to use an elevated cooling fan and NOT to place directly on the carpet.

Where's my sound? Well VGA is only the video output. The sound will be coming out of your computer. Will probably be too soft even with a good sound card. See next section.


Audio Setup
You can hook up your computers audio output (most likely headphone (3mm) jack) to your TV or stereo/surround system.

In order to do so you'll need a 3mm to Stereo Cable.
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Most places do not carry these as they have minimal uses. Radio Shack will probably have one for $30-$40, but you can find cheaper ones online. The cheaper ones usually have less "shielding" for sound clarity but this is negligible.

You can use other cables, but they are harder to find and some TV's/stereos don't allow for other inputs.


Accounting for Lag
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Operating systems, computer hardware configurations, and monitors inhibit smooth and accurate play. I hear Windows 7 lags certain versions. I know that LCD's lag about ~5ms to ~8ms. You can adjust machine lag in-game to fix this slew of inaccuracies. One can also fix lag on a song-by-song basis, but do not do this. Beatmaps are usually correct. (Exception: Jenova-FF7 among others I'm sure.)


WAN/LAN Play
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I used to play the CVS4 version which is online. It has a database of everyone's scores, etc, but I'll update the post about that later. They may be on CVS5.. I don't know. If it's anything like it was, you can link up with others and play Stepmania online. These people are extremely hardcore and I wouldn't bother going this route until you can AA decently difficult stream-songs.There used to be problems with the online version, so when I get reacquainted or when someone posts, I'll edit.


Game Options:
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1x, 2x, etc. speeds-- means it takes the natural BeatsPerMinute (BPM) of the Song and multiplies it. This is confusing and inconsistent, so you should use the Constant###. Depending on how well you 'sight-read' and how fast you can react, your natural C### will be different. With a higher Constant, you can get Perfects, Marvelous's, Ridiculous's more easily, but you will have less of a buffer of notes on-screen. Find your balance but usually C400 is a good place to start.

Use the assist tick on the 2nd page to help you figure out rhythms to new songs.


Creating your own speeds:
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modify metrics.ini
CTRL+F for C200 and change/add speeds that you want with the same pattern as the ones already in the file so there aren't any code hiccups.

Make sure you've modified the number of speed options, too.

modify language file
en.ini
es.ini
etc.
reason: to have coordinating buttons in the options menu for your new speeds.

so if you chose C500, make sure you have C500=C500. So your C500 will appear as 'C500' in the options menu. You can make C600=Refrigerators, and C450=balls for all I care. Just remember refrigerators run at 600 BPM and balls run at 450 BPM.

If you are getting an error that it cannot find your balls or refrigerators, it is because the code is case-sensitive. 'C500' is not the same as 'c500'


Finger positions:
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1-hand: 1 hand for up, down, left and right. (not advise-able)

Spread/Four-fingered: Index and Middle on each hand. Usually, one hand on WASD for 2 of the 4 arrows and the other hand on the arrow keys for the remaining 2 arrows. Your index and middle fingers are your most responsive fingers. If you are looking to increase dexterity or endurance of others for SC2 or something, use them, though it'll be harder. don't forget to change your joypad mappings for the extra keys

Index: Pecking away with only indexes of both hands. Alternating index fingers provides a fun practice but is more difficult than spread (on most songs other than "trilly" songs) because if you mess up you don't have another finger to pick up slack. Plus, your middle finger is nearly as fast. Also, you can't feel where your finger is. Some people index-spread or index on singular WASD.

It's generally accepted that playing Spread will produce the best results. Your middle is only slightly slower than your index.


Song Grading
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For each note you press, you receive a grade based on your timing.(Ridiculous>)Marvelous>Perfect>Great>Good>Boo>Miss
Holds are pass/fail with an 'OK' or 'NG'

As long as you hit only Greats or better, you'll keep your combo going.

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AAAA: passing a song with all Marvelous or better notes.
AAA: passing a song with all Perfect or better notes.
AA: passing a song while dropping (killing combo...Miss,Boo or Good) less than ~3-4 notes.
A: passing a song with only a few Combo Breakers and good accuracy.
B: passing a song with a good amount of Combo Breakers and OK accuracy.
C: passing a song with a lot of Combo Breakers and perhaps decent accuracy.
D: barely passing a song. Lots of Combo Breakers and bad accuracy. (It's possible to still pass a song even if you let your stamina bar run dry if you have no-fail selected.)
E: failing a song.


Skins
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You can screw around with this stuff but I'm all about function over aesthetics.

Gameplay with skin.
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Speaking of skin...if you are a underclassman in a dorm, SM is a great way to bring people together to your lounge or get girls into your room. Just use the VGA slot on your computer's video card.

True story
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Me: "Hey, wanna play some (don't say Starcraft) DDR later with a few people?"

Girl: "SURE I LOVE THAT GAME, IT'S BETTER THAN THE SIMS."

Neighbor knocks on the wall with a "KEEP YOUR FETISHES DOWN TO A MINIMUM."




FAQ:
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Use CTRL+F to find keywords designated in bold. I'll move this too the top of the page when I'm done with this section.

Q: How do I hook up a pad to my PC?
A: See Equipment/Setup section

Q: How do I hook up my computer to my TV in order to actually see the buttons?
A: See Equipment/Setup section

Q: How do I get better? I feel like I've hit a wall.
A: Don't try songs too easy or too difficult. Finish a song if you can. Turn on no-fail if it's just a section in a song, but if you are failing the entire song, go to an easier one. You won't get better from too much destruction. If it's your fingers keeping you back, simply play more to gain more endurance. If the problem is your hand-eye coordination, change things up. Switch finger binds. Play with a higher/lower constant rate and different visual mods (see Game Option and Making your own speeds sections for more info). Finally, see tips section (a work in-progress).


(New)Mentors/Students List. Sign-up =):
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Mentors
StimCraft (PM me on here)

Students
Just started...Sign up

Sign-up if you want to either teach a new player or learn how to play or get better.


Tips
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Newbie (Beginner/Light)
-Alternate Feet/Fingers

Medicore (Standard)
-Practice Triples

Advanced (Heavy-DDR)
-Dial up speed

Semi-Pro (Heavy ITG/Some Keyboard Packs)
-Turns, trills, etc, many doubles, etc.

Pro (Anything is your slave)
-tip

General
-Utilize the .5x, .6x, .7x, etc. in the options menu. Musician's do this, and it's the best way to perfect a difficult piece (or pass a simfile in this case).
-put the background to 0% (completely black), it greatly helps in reading the notes
-if you play spread, feel free to try more hotkey setups than above, experimenting and fooling around with your setup will stop any complacencies in your A-game
-starting with C400 is fine, but don't get too used to it... when you think you can sight-read maps fast enough, dial it up a bit more. always challenge yourself to read faster. most of the top players play above C650 for accuracy.
-if you want to become more accurate by a different method, increase the judging difficulty from the default(4) to 5-8, then lower it to the standard when you want to go for a score run


Impressive Videos
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Izzy in action.
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Edit:This time it's Izzy lol. But check out our apparent ex-#2s videos below in the comment. props.


And check out the posters below


Community/History
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To be editededed


TL Steppin' Across the World - Map
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Countries
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USA
Canada
日本 (Japan)
Norge (Norway)
France
Danmark (Denmark)
Sverige (Sweden)
New Zealand
in Nederland (the Netherlands)
United Kingdom


Want forearms like TLO? Play Stepmania. Just don't pinch your nerves like TLO =(
If you already play, show some love, your best accomplishment, or something to add to the thread. I will acknowledge your editing/contributions. Also, say your country if it isn't tagged to your name.
The skill level of SM-TL is very impressive, but please be humble and use a spoiler tag if you do decide to embed a video. This is to prevent browsers on lower-end comps from lagging/crashing and to keep the thread lookin' clean.

Stream/Contact
Sometimes I stream Stepmania on my livestream.com/stimcraft through TL when I get sick of SC2. I'm still getting back into it after a long hiatus. Ask me on stream, in here, stimcraftgg@gmail.com or through pm if you have an questions about anything.

Thanks/Credit/Help/Clarifications/General Contribution
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maybe
tsutter
if i forget to mention someone, please speak up. it's not intentional


Edits
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23 Dec
Started on FAQ section
Created (Output) Sound section
Updated TV setup section
Created Mentoring section
Updated a few misc. things
Note: Wow...one open tag can destroy all the rest of the tags in forum coding.

1 Dec
Lag Section Added
Buffed Equipment Section a bit
Add NZ to country map
Wording/Organization
Added a funny? picture
List of converters link
More countries to the guestbook (countries now in native language)

29 Nov
Organization
Added Video Section, Tips Section (thanks to maybe)
TL Steppin' 'Round the World Section added
Etc.
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
November 29 2010 06:04 GMT
#2
one of my asian friends used to play this game, he was ridiculously good. he was also really amazing at real ddr and any other rhythm game at the arcade. he tried to get me to play it, i enjoyed it for a bit but the best i could do was the ddr songs on hard(with my fingers)
DJ, put it back on!
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 06:13:49
November 29 2010 06:12 GMT
#3
I used to play SM, but only because of the novelty of being able to play games with my favorite songs. I was decent, but nowhere near those damn Japanese prodigies..

I used spread, but doesn't it also work if you use WASD? or both? ie index and middle on WA, index and middle on downkey rightkey. At least, that's how I remember it. Either SM or something else, I used left hand on WASD and right hand on arrows.

But yeah, this is fun stuff if you're into it. Play it for a day and if you enjoy it, keep going, but I don't believe it's something you can really develop a love for if you don't like it that much from the start..

On the bright side, it's like DDR, without the exercise!
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
November 29 2010 06:16 GMT
#4
I will be hooking up my old XP computer just to play this on Thursday if there's still any interest in this by then. Hopefully there is, because I always have a lot of fun playing SM, but I'm always too lazy to hook up my old desktop with all my song packs. ):
secret base
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
November 29 2010 06:27 GMT
#5
Did you a favour and removed the "brah" from the title. Otherwise, nice thread
ModeratorGodfather
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
November 29 2010 06:42 GMT
#6
Oh hey, an SM thread . Great OP.

I used to play this a lot like five years ago. Saw a contest for this game once, and had to try it after seeing the insane speed they were playing at. I got pretty good after a while, but I lost interest eventually. I still play a couple of songs every now and then though, but it I kinda suck now compared to what I used to. It's still fun to play a keyboard song on C800 in front of someone who hasn't played or seen it before, they'll think you've just memorized it or something.
Blah.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 29 2010 06:50 GMT
#7
I was maybe D+ at this game a long time ago haha. Played some of the easier bemani stepfiles and gave up after I plateaued .
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
November 29 2010 06:55 GMT
#8
Used to play this quite often back in the ol' days. But I stopped playing two years ago... I was getting not bad, had some AA's in some keyboard song. Friends would be awesomised when I played . These directDL links for pack are tempting...
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 07:22:02
November 29 2010 07:18 GMT
#9
I play on a CobultFlux at home for like... an hour, several times a week. ^^ Love dat DDR.

Don't do pad shit anymore though.

Go go SM ^^ !!!

As for accomplishments:

Keyboard: AA on Shiki's AIR (i used the arrow keys though) // AAA on iio's Smooth (airbase remix)

Pad: AA on So Deep (the ddr official one), 3 SDG's, passed everything except like 5 official songs.

Gave up on making progress, so I just do endurance sets now lol
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
November 29 2010 07:22 GMT
#10
I'm a fairly long time player. I play Stepmania almost every day, working on songs for months before I beat them, I think I've hit my peak

I want to play with 6-panels, but planning to get a new keyboard for that since it goes to shit with this old one I have where I can't press more than 4 keys at the same time.

I play with ASDF. Started that way, never bothered to try anything else. It works for me but it's very annoying sometimes when my thumbs touch and I lose focus.
Zurachi
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada289 Posts
November 29 2010 08:35 GMT
#11
I regularly play this with my pad... connecting my laptop to my 42" hdtv as well. Definitely the way to get some great cardio in! Sure beats jogging.
@ZurachiTV | www.youtube.com/ZurachiTV | "Satisfaction is the beginning of regression."
tsutter
Profile Joined March 2009
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 08:56:47
November 29 2010 08:45 GMT
#12
i used to be good at this game

edit: fyi that video you labeled as 'izzy in action' isn't actually izzy, it's arch0wl. it's also a video from ~2005 and the score isn't impressive anymore at all. izzy is also not even remotely close to the best in the world -- i haven't played since 2007 or so, but the top 3 best in the world back then was like

1/2 thaor///me
3 bluemystik

here's some videos

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hhPnI7RSfY


the last i knew wooke was the best sm player in the world (also doesn't play anymore) but after 2009 i have no idea

theres ur stepmania history lesson for the day



edit #2: also spread is by far and away the best way to play for scores and stuff, not index. a lot of people prefer to play index same as people prefer to play one hand, but index/one hand ppl will never get as good of scores as people on spread. i loved playing index tho, mad fun
whatup
StimCraft
Profile Joined March 2010
United States144 Posts
November 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#13
Video Edited. Now Izzy playing Ageha. And nice on getting that good, tsutter. Welcome back
tentaclemonster
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States118 Posts
November 29 2010 09:42 GMT
#14
Oh man, thanks for much for posting this. I had played this a while back and forgot about it since I changed comps.

What's a good hard pad that you guys recommend? I'm looking for something that's well made like the arcade pads but not too heavy and easy to put away.
Shingles
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark12 Posts
November 29 2010 10:02 GMT
#15
Long time stepper!

Acomplishments:
AA on 15 feet Metallica - Battery

“Be the change you want to see in the world.” Mahatma Gandhi
Horiz0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Sweden364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 16:18:01
November 29 2010 16:16 GMT
#16
I recommend bemanistyle for sim-files

their search function is amazing :>
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
November 29 2010 19:31 GMT
#17
www.zenius-i-vanisher.com is good too for simfiles
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
November 29 2010 19:55 GMT
#18
excellent... I have the pads + stepmania already, but was getting tired of my songs. I can usually nail 8 footers on sight, 9 footers with practice. Haven't yet beat a 10 footer with my feet, got frustrated and switched to doing double pads. It's really fun again!
PhailSoBaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States281 Posts
November 29 2010 20:48 GMT
#19
I use to play then didnt like any/ couldnt find any new good song packs that were cool. Might give it another go now that you made this neatly displayed post for it :D
Ballins a habbit i want it i grab it
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 21:09:24
November 29 2010 21:06 GMT
#20
oh hey, a stepmania thread.

im pretty good at this game, been playing on and off for about 7 years now. didnt seem to get much improvement for the last few years, and the community pretty much died so i just play for fun from time to time, no reason to play actively anymore.

i still follow the scene and forums and stuff, so theres this korean/american guy called leonid, whos pretty much the best player atm to still play semiactive and set new world records and such.



there are other insane players too, but none of them has posted a score atleast in a year so..

heres a link to (mostly) good simpacks: http://houkouonchi.net:8080/packs/
if you want more newer sims, you can try omgdidinsane.com forums, although the regular people there have stated that they dont 'care' about stepmania anymore, because playing without any scene, community or competition, is worthless.

some tips:
-put background to 0% (black), it helps greatly to read the notes
-if you play spread, feel free to try more hotkey setups than what the op told to(mine have been zx23(numpad) for several years already)
-starting with C400 is fine, but dont get too used to it. when you think you can read it good enough, put it up to C500 or so. most of the best players always play C650-C800. (mines C750)
-if you want to come more accurate, you can change the judge difficulty from the default(4) to 5-8. playing like this for a good few years, then changing back to 4 and you wont see many of those perfects anymore.

On November 29 2010 11:51 StimCraft wrote:
Note: AA means mostly Perfects, AAA means mostly Marvelous, AAAAAAA means you are a real monster.

just gonna clarify this:
Ridiculous>Marvelous>Perfect>Great>Good>Boo>Miss (theres still OKs and NGs for holds, and on some songs there are mines)
your combo only keeps up if you hit either ridiculouses,marvelouses,perfects or greats.

AAAAA: passing a song with all Ridiculous notes. the chances of getting this score is nigh impossible, so dont be surprised if you never get it. you will also need to download Ridiculous Timing to even have a chance at getting this.

AAAA: passing a song with all Marvelous or better notes. once again, getting this score is very very very hard, unless on a very easy song, so don't expect to get this.

AAA: passing a song with all Perfect or better notes.

AA: passing a song with either a Full Combo, or very near it, with good accuracy.

A: passing a song with only a few Combo Breakers and good accuracy.
B: passing a song with a good amount of Combo Breakers and OK accuracy.
C: passing a song with a lot of Combo Breakers and perhaps decent accuracy.
D: barely passing a song. Lots of Combo Breakers and bad accuracy.
E: failing a song.


there would still be a shitload to tell about the theroycrafting, terminologies, techniques etc, and this is all just for the playing part. the sim making is like another game to play.
personally i kinda hope that competitive stepmania would get some love(new community?,PLAYERS), its always been an open source, easily modable rhythm game, with a good song editor in it. definitely better than guitar hero and the other casual shit i see doing too well on the market.

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