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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 14:28:20
September 11 2012 14:25 GMT
#121
Wait, marines actually win in pubs now? When I was playing (pre-exosuit) I think aliens had like 80% winrate unless marines went full-on shotgun rush. IIRC it was the same with NS1, even with the exosuit around. Aliens were just too strong in pubs.

Mind you, it didn't stop the game being tons of fun. And I play marines almost exclusively.
it's my first day
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
September 11 2012 15:19 GMT
#122
Yea, I figured a few ability builds would probably be pretty OP in pubs. In the competetive matches I watched from a few days ago it seemed like they rarely got to exosuits before the game was over.

The commander role seems to be fun from what little I have seen though. I think the game is awesome to watch from the top down perspective.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
September 11 2012 15:23 GMT
#123
On September 11 2012 23:25 myopia wrote:
Wait, marines actually win in pubs now? When I was playing (pre-exosuit) I think aliens had like 80% winrate unless marines went full-on shotgun rush. IIRC it was the same with NS1, even with the exosuit around. Aliens were just too strong in pubs.

Mind you, it didn't stop the game being tons of fun. And I play marines almost exclusively.


You can get an idea for balance by servers with ns2stats enabled on http://ns2stats.org/all/index

57% marines vs 42% aliens currently. According to the devs from the twitch stream the stats are a bit closer in their data which encompasses all servers.

So there is definitely seems to be some significant imbalance with a 57% / 42% split, but not so bad that the game is unplayable.
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Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
September 11 2012 15:54 GMT
#124
Its fine tbh. Marines always had the easier wins, but winrates could me much more drastically affected in NS1 because of how much difference there was in the skill levels. 1 or 2 good players could heavily swing the game into their teams favor.
This effect was even bigger in some cases. A fade on my CAL/ENSL team could win entire 12v12 pubs by himself, and if we stacked marines the outcome was a lot more 1 sided than team stacking in some other games.

hopefully the skill curve remains.
3del
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany23 Posts
September 15 2012 17:09 GMT
#125
Natural Selection 2 Cup live now:
http://www.twitch.tv/naturalselection2
http://www.twitch.tv/rwryne
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
September 15 2012 17:20 GMT
#126
This game looks just amazing.

It's like the best bits of everything stuck together.
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
September 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#127
Preordered the game

How does one get into beta?
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
September 15 2012 19:31 GMT
#128
I bought the game when it was in alpha state and i still haven't received my free gift copy. I've read other people have received theirs. Any luck for anyone else?
<3
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
September 15 2012 19:34 GMT
#129
On September 16 2012 04:31 Nebula wrote:
I bought the game when it was in alpha state and i still haven't received my free gift copy. I've read other people have received theirs. Any luck for anyone else?


I got mine today.
Never make a hydralisk.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 15 2012 19:37 GMT
#130
On September 16 2012 04:28 Candadar wrote:
Preordered the game

How does one get into beta?


Had to have preordered before they did they put the preorders up on steam. Have to wait until the release to play
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
September 15 2012 21:32 GMT
#131
On September 16 2012 04:37 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:28 Candadar wrote:
Preordered the game

How does one get into beta?


Had to have preordered before they did they put the preorders up on steam. Have to wait until the release to play


Oh well, the hype shall build!
Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
September 16 2012 02:57 GMT
#132
What I love about NS is the difference skill differences and power displays. One great players can be almost unkillable, it really makes you want to become better and better
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 16 2012 03:17 GMT
#133
On September 16 2012 04:34 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 04:31 Nebula wrote:
I bought the game when it was in alpha state and i still haven't received my free gift copy. I've read other people have received theirs. Any luck for anyone else?


I got mine today.

I have not gotten my free stuff yet.
it's my first day
r3dox
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Germany261 Posts
September 16 2012 09:14 GMT
#134
On September 16 2012 11:57 Sindriss wrote:
What I love about NS is the difference skill differences and power displays. One great players can be almost unkillable, it really makes you want to become better and better


care explain what you meant?
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
September 16 2012 09:52 GMT
#135
Higher skillcap rewards good players
animol
Profile Joined March 2010
135 Posts
September 16 2012 11:00 GMT
#136
Just decided to pop in and say that after trying to play for a bit today, with lowest graphical settings I still get ~20 FPS in combat which is unplayable. I'm using Phenom II x4 965 3,6GHz and GTX 460. So even though the game might look good on a stream with some insane computer specs, the game still needs some serious performance fixes.
Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
September 16 2012 11:20 GMT
#137
On September 16 2012 18:14 r3dox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 11:57 Sindriss wrote:
What I love about NS is the difference skill differences and power displays. One great players can be almost unkillable, it really makes you want to become better and better


care explain what you meant?


He propably means that FE. a good fade whit blink can easily take out big number of marines overtime (speaking of tens here), and still does not risk to be killed. In competitive play its completely different thing, but in pubs this is completely usual.

Like the original version of natural selection there were league called ENSL which included few players that completely dominated the scoreboards (Tane, Fana) and now when they switch to ns2 we expect them to do the same. We'll see though.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 11:23:11
September 16 2012 11:22 GMT
#138
wrong thread whoops.
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
September 16 2012 11:32 GMT
#139
On September 16 2012 20:20 Sepi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 18:14 r3dox wrote:
On September 16 2012 11:57 Sindriss wrote:
What I love about NS is the difference skill differences and power displays. One great players can be almost unkillable, it really makes you want to become better and better


care explain what you meant?


He propably means that FE. a good fade whit blink can easily take out big number of marines overtime (speaking of tens here), and still does not risk to be killed. In competitive play its completely different thing, but in pubs this is completely usual.

Like the original version of natural selection there were league called ENSL which included few players that completely dominated the scoreboards (Tane, Fana) and now when they switch to ns2 we expect them to do the same. We'll see though.


Haha, do you mean the finnish Tane from clan urd? I also played ns1 at the highest levels in the finnish scene back in the day...
3del
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany23 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 12:01:10
September 16 2012 11:58 GMT
#140
The free copies seem to have not been distributed yet.

@ animol: It's depending on your specific setup. Some Setups work better than others. I have an i5 quad core at 3,4 GHz, 8 GB DDR3 1800 RAM and GTX 260, and i have between 40 and 60 FPS. They are trying to improve performance for all systems, but if you want your specific setup to be looked into, post your problems in the help section of the official Forums.
http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showforum=108

The finals of the Cup will be played later today, starting at 11:00 PDT | 2:00 EDT | 18:00 UTC | 20:00 CET.
You can also see the VODs of yesterdays games on these channels. There were some really good games imo.
http://www.twitch.tv/naturalselection2
http://www.twitch.tv/rwryne

edit: Link to forums
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