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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 29 2012 21:54 GMT
#4321
Lol woke up and almost shit myself. Got here 10mins before it starts.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 29 2012 22:04 GMT
#4322
On September 30 2012 06:54 Risen wrote:
Lol woke up and almost shit myself. Got here 10mins before it starts.

Herp i was gonna do noon as well as midnight but fuck i was tired so i moved my second game over to sunday lol
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 02:26:33
September 30 2012 00:00 GMT
#4323
Sometimes your opponent topdecks a reunion followed by a didenchant and stabilizes at 4 life. Ah, magic. Thank heaven this event is a top 8. Starting off 0-1... time to grind out 4 wins. Was sel vs sel T_T

Edit: 3-1 and I have to leave bc family is in town, sigh. Would have made top 8 np. Cracked about 160 worth of cards and got 40 store credit off of 60 dollars buy in. Glad I did the events.

1 vraska
3 overgrown tomb
2 abrupt decay
1 angel of serenity
1 uw oring
3 grove of the guardian (2 promo)
1 corpsejack (regular version, not golgari promo)
Some other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
September 30 2012 04:15 GMT
#4324
Won my first tournament tonight, obviously the RTR prerelease. Golgari FTW! GIMME DAT BOX! :D
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 30 2012 04:48 GMT
#4325
Cracked my prize packs, made all my money back and then some. Big cards being temple garden, sphere, armada wurm, abrupt, verdict, and angel.
Get it by your hands...
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 30 2012 06:55 GMT
#4326
GW is the best btw
Because the dice is the best looking
RB is the worst
red text on blue back ground omg so ugly

I rank the color of the dice in
GW
GB
RB
UW (It's mostly because the white they used is so off white sorta hue is off or something it's nasty looking white)
RU
ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
September 30 2012 15:52 GMT
#4327
On September 30 2012 13:48 Judicator wrote:
Cracked my prize packs, made all my money back and then some. Big cards being temple garden, sphere, armada wurm, abrupt, verdict, and angel.


You got your prize packs already? At my store they said I can't have my box til Thursday @ midnight, and that it was standard? Either way, good for you and your win! I cracked a pretty nice 6 packs to make my deck and trade fodder.

Lich Lord
Sphere
Dreadbore
Lotleth Troll

So I easily made my money back even had I not won, got some other nice U's n C's.
Weird fact: Only 1 shocklands was opened at the entire event!? O.o
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#4328
Won my pre-release, but I don't know how everyone on this forum opened up a ton of money. I got two Underworld Connections and Temple Garden and a Loleth Troll...

Anyways, I changed from Azorious to Selesnya and it was the rightest decision I had ever made. Decklist in no particular order:
+ Show Spoiler +

Azorious Justiciar
Cyclonic Rift
2 Trostani's Judgement
Call of the Conclave
Phantom General
Slime Molding
3 Eyes in the Skies
Growing Ranks
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Centaur Healer
Centaur's Herald
Rootborn Defenses
Sunspire Griffin
Savage Surge
Dryad Militant
Gate Creeper Vine
Aerial Predation
Druid's Deliverance
Arrest
Azorious Arrester


I felt like I could have gone 15-0 with this deck. It built itself and basically played itself to a perfect record.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
ParanoiaDHerO
Profile Joined July 2009
United States183 Posts
September 30 2012 17:02 GMT
#4329
On October 01 2012 01:47 slyboogie wrote:
Won my pre-release, but I don't know how everyone on this forum opened up a ton of money. I got two Underworld Connections and Temple Garden and a Loleth Troll...

Anyways, I changed from Azorious to Selesnya and it was the rightest decision I had ever made. Decklist in no particular order:
+ Show Spoiler +

Azorious Justiciar
Cyclonic Rift
2 Trostani's Judgement
Call of the Conclave
Phantom General
Slime Molding
3 Eyes in the Skies
Growing Ranks
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Centaur Healer
Centaur's Herald
Rootborn Defenses
Sunspire Griffin
Savage Surge
Dryad Militant
Gate Creeper Vine
Aerial Predation
Druid's Deliverance
Arrest
Azorious Arrester


I felt like I could have gone 15-0 with this deck. It built itself and basically played itself to a perfect record.


Yeah, I bet you could have honestly. That seems like a really solid deck and Azo is the only deck that almost beat me.

Don't feel bad, I didn't open that much either, I guess my big cards were about 35 worth. Better to crack less and win the tourny then crack big and lose. They only had one other Golgari set for that event and he cracked Vraska/Abrupt, worth 60 alone, idk all his other cards, but he dropped after he lost round one.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 30 2012 18:24 GMT
#4330
Lol, sometimes you win the draft before you play round 1 I guess. Or sealed, in this case.

Anyways, I wanted to comment on some card thoughts for limited:

1. Stab Wound is very sweet. I nearly dropped a game because it was attached to my Centaur Healer and I couldn't remove it. I wouldn't be particularly pleased to pick it 1st in a a draft but it's just one of those cards that feels like it will be a limited staple.

2. I don't think Swift Justice is as good as the hype.

3. Azorious Justiciar amazing. It's double white for a reason. WRB seems like it could be an aggressive tempo archetype.

4. Speaking of Justiciar, does anyone feel like there are some uncommons that are freakishly strong? Dreg Mangler, Bloodfray Giant, Hellhole Flailer? I imagine Lyev Skyknight should probably be in this group but I found it to be pretty mediocre against the best card in the format - 1/1 White Bird Tokens.

5. I played against 3 Mizzium Mortars and it was ever only okay.

"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 30 2012 19:31 GMT
#4331
I played against the Birds with double Skyknight, never ran into it once. Birds is whatever, average. It is not Midnight Haunting, it is not bad if you have multiple tokens out, but very bad if you don't.

Selesnya decks all died when I just detained them once and none of the decks I played could get past anything with 4 toughness (in a relevant time frame).
Get it by your hands...
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 20:20:35
September 30 2012 20:19 GMT
#4332
On October 01 2012 04:31 Judicator wrote:
I played against the Birds with double Skyknight, never ran into it once. Birds is whatever, average. It is not Midnight Haunting, it is not bad if you have multiple tokens out, but very bad if you don't.

Selesnya decks all died when I just detained them once and none of the decks I played could get past anything with 4 toughness (in a relevant time frame).

4 toughness is probably the high water mark for this format. For fliers it might be 3 toughness though. So much stuff is lower power dorks hovering around 2-3 power. I faced a deck that had Lobber Crews + Door Keepers + Voidwalkers and it was really hard breaking the stall. Works so well with Stab Wound.

Maybe it was my Sealed Pool and the stuff I faced, but I find that Enchantments and removal for Enchantments are really important (Stab Wound, Arrest, Knightly Valour, etc.) Going to make something like Dramatic Rescue (and maybe Faerie Invaders) really important. Also lets you reuse ETB triggers.

On October 01 2012 03:24 slyboogie wrote:
4. Speaking of Justiciar, does anyone feel like there are some uncommons that are freakishly strong? Dreg Mangler, Bloodfray Giant, Hellhole Flailer? I imagine Lyev Skyknight should probably be in this group but I found it to be pretty mediocre against the best card in the format - 1/1 White Bird Tokens.

Skymark Roc is also pretty nuts.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 30 2012 20:23 GMT
#4333
What is it that you were using to push past their board? A bunch of 3/1 fliers, 2/2 and 2/1 detainers will get them 6 or 7 but I've never saw anything from Azorious that was going to win it upon resolution past turn 6 or 7. Even the promo and Isperia could be dealt with Charm, Predation, Trostani's Judgement. Unless you just dropped an Angel on their ass, Blustersqualled them good or their deck was just sub-optimum(aka sealed.) I don't think much of Azorious's creatures - and I love Pillarfield Oxen.

Then again, I feel like I was rolling with the Selesnyan nuts. So I may have a skewed thought.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 30 2012 20:33 GMT
#4334
I went Selesnya and got good Rakdos and Izzet rares, 3-3 with a mediocre deck. Still mad fun day.
Revolutionist fan
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 21:55:38
September 30 2012 21:38 GMT
#4335
On October 01 2012 05:23 slyboogie wrote:
What is it that you were using to push past their board? A bunch of 3/1 fliers, 2/2 and 2/1 detainers will get them 6 or 7 but I've never saw anything from Azorious that was going to win it upon resolution past turn 6 or 7. Even the promo and Isperia could be dealt with Charm, Predation, Trostani's Judgement. Unless you just dropped an Angel on their ass, Blustersqualled them good or their deck was just sub-optimum(aka sealed.) I don't think much of Azorious's creatures - and I love Pillarfield Oxen.

Then again, I feel like I was rolling with the Selesnyan nuts. So I may have a skewed thought.


You do. There were only 3 removal spells in my entire pool: Annihilating Fire, Selesnya Charm, and Ultimate Price. I was only able to run one of them.

The deck I lost against had: Azorius Promo, Sphinx of the Chimes, Supreme Verdict, Angel of Serenity, and 2x Avenging Arrows and a Paralyzing Grasp for removal.

Both our games went like this: T1 shaman for me, T4 something for me that gets bounced on the next turn, T5 replay my T4 thing, T6 play another 4 drop, he drops Verdict into Sphinx/Promo game 2 and just promo game 1. He was under 5 life both times

My Deck:
+ Show Spoiler +

1x Golgari Guildgate
2x Golgari Longlegs
1x Drudge Beetle
1x Grim Roustabout
1x Stonefare Crocodile
1x Dead Reveler
2x Corpsejack Menace
1x Korozda Guildmage
1x Ultimate Price
1x Perilous Shadow
1x Golgari Decoy
1x Stab Wound
1x Dark Revanent
1x Axebane Guardian
1x Gatecreeper Vine
1x Giant Growth
1x Jarad's Orders
1x Collective Blessing
1x Archweaver
1x Sluiceway Scorpion
1x Mind Rot
1x Deathrite Shaman
and Lands


Unplayed rares were Righteous Authority and Guild Feud.

Like I said earlier, 1-1 drop. Signs you're playing in a poorly run tournament:

1) It starts at 12:30.

2) There's room to comfortably seat 40 and they let 85 in.

3) There's no DCI judge.

4) The person running the tournament is playing in it.

5) You let people deckbuild and play on your counter.

6) It takes over 30 mnutes to enter in wins and losses and get the next round going.

7) When people are called to numbered positions without the numbers being on the tables.

6 rounds of that bullshit would have me up till past 8, when I was supposed to wake up anyway, AND they didn't have enough product for prize support so 2-8 were getting store credit.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 22:08:30
September 30 2012 22:06 GMT
#4336
On October 01 2012 06:38 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 05:23 slyboogie wrote:
What is it that you were using to push past their board? A bunch of 3/1 fliers, 2/2 and 2/1 detainers will get them 6 or 7 but I've never saw anything from Azorious that was going to win it upon resolution past turn 6 or 7. Even the promo and Isperia could be dealt with Charm, Predation, Trostani's Judgement. Unless you just dropped an Angel on their ass, Blustersqualled them good or their deck was just sub-optimum(aka sealed.) I don't think much of Azorious's creatures - and I love Pillarfield Oxen.

Then again, I feel like I was rolling with the Selesnyan nuts. So I may have a skewed thought.


You do. There were only 3 removal spells in my entire pool: Annihilating Fire, Selesnya Charm, and Ultimate Price. I was only able to run one of them.

The deck I lost against had: Azorius Promo, Sphinx of the Chimes, Supreme Verdict, Angel of Serenity, and 2x Avenging Arrows and a Paralyzing Grasp for removal.

Both our games went like this: T1 shaman for me, T4 something for me that gets bounced on the next turn, T5 replay my T4 thing, T6 play another 4 drop, he drops Verdict into Sphinx/Promo game 2 and just promo game 1. He was under 5 life both times

My Deck:
+ Show Spoiler +

1x Golgari Guildgate
2x Golgari Longlegs
1x Drudge Beetle
1x Grim Roustabout
1x Stonefare Crocodile
1x Dead Reveler
2x Corpsejack Menace
1x Korozda Guildmage
1x Ultimate Price
1x Perilous Shadow
1x Golgari Decoy
1x Stab Wound
1x Dark Revanent
1x Axebane Guardian
1x Gatecreeper Vine
1x Giant Growth
1x Jarad's Orders
1x Collective Blessing
1x Archweaver
1x Sluiceway Scorpion
1x Mind Rot
1x Deathrite Shaman
and Lands


Unplayed rares were Righteous Authority and Guild Feud.

Like I said earlier, 1-1 drop. Signs you're playing in a poorly run tournament:

1) It starts at 12:30.

2) There's room to comfortably seat 40 and they let 85 in.

3) There's no DCI judge.

4) The person running the tournament is playing in it.

5) You let people deckbuild and play on your counter.

6) It takes over 30 mnutes to enter in wins and losses and get the next round going.

7) When people are called to numbered positions without the numbers being on the tables.

6 rounds of that bullshit would have me up till past 8, when I was supposed to wake up anyway, AND they didn't have enough product for prize support so 2-8 were getting store credit.


That sounds like an awful experience..

I feel like the quality of pre-releases and the amount of fun to be had has dropped severely since they got rid of the big official pre-releases and are letting the stores do them.

For those of you testing, brainstorming for states, I need your help teamliquid magic players! I am trying to get a list together so my friend can mail me a deck for states, I haven't played paper magic in awhile.. and I am kind of stuck for what I should play. I like the idea of playing something like UR delver I saw the list floating around the internet, but I don't see it beating zombies with consistency(if you have some tech, let me know ), so I am now considering all sorts of stuff. Anyways if you could pm your lists or post them here you guys are considering I would be grateful, if you consider your list to be top secret or whatever than don't send it, it's really not a big deal I don't think states is that important and I have other places to go to get ideas .
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 22:22:51
September 30 2012 22:13 GMT
#4337
On October 01 2012 05:23 slyboogie wrote:
What is it that you were using to push past their board? A bunch of 3/1 fliers, 2/2 and 2/1 detainers will get them 6 or 7 but I've never saw anything from Azorious that was going to win it upon resolution past turn 6 or 7. Even the promo and Isperia could be dealt with Charm, Predation, Trostani's Judgement. Unless you just dropped an Angel on their ass, Blustersqualled them good or their deck was just sub-optimum(aka sealed.) I don't think much of Azorious's creatures - and I love Pillarfield Oxen.

Then again, I feel like I was rolling with the Selesnyan nuts. So I may have a skewed thought.


Detain, then just beat them in with 2/2s. If they want to swing, I am going to race and outrace them. The air was pretty open, nobody really had any reach and it's not like they can trade with my scorpions either. Time your bounce spell to timewalk them and the rest was just easy. I got double TJ-ed and still won that game. Like I said, I was 4 colors with an extremely consistent mana base, my flyers just outclassed anything on the ground namely because they lack a respectable cards to interact with me while all my spells interacted with them. You have your 3/3 centaurs sure, but I have my 6 total power air force, wanna race? Detain makes the race option very hard to commit to for decks with flyers and makes it pretty impossible for ground decks to take that line in the first place.

My deck was literally mono-3 drop flyers with tempo cards with about like 3 cards above 4. Ironically, I hated the Archon in most draws except in the mirror.

Edit:

I wouldn't test that heavily for states until after SCG Cincy.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 30 2012 22:26 GMT
#4338
Dunno what to say. Sunspire Griffin, Concordia Pegasus, Faerie Imposter, Isperia Skywatch, Runewing, Tower Drake, Skyknight and Skymark Roc....none of these guys get past a single Towering Indrik. Only 2 of them have Detain and only 2 have Toughness consistently higher than 2.

It doesn't matter, it's not like 1 sealed event tells us everything about RTR limited. I'm just surprised everyone had such a different experience from me.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 30 2012 22:31 GMT
#4339
If you're playing Towering Indrik (and getting it on curve) I am kind of happy. That card is good against flyers yes, but again any 3 power flyer goes through it, and giant growth wrecks it.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 22:37:44
September 30 2012 22:35 GMT
#4340
It's a Giant Spider, 2/4, do you mean 3 toughness? I sided it in many times against Azorious decks. And the race scenario always felt good because of instant speed tricks like Eyes on the Skies, Savage Surge and Druid's Deliverance.

EDIT: Again, my pool was way better than I anticipated, and there was at least one game 1 where Trostani saved me, as I was maybe 2 turns from dead. That being said, I rarely leaned on any rares - 3/3s, 1/1 fliers and an X/X ooze usually got there. I'm not claiming to be absolutely correct, just anecdotal thoughts.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
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