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SMohyee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
August 26 2010 10:49 GMT
#1
So I discovered Oblivion not too long ago, and being a big fan of BG2 and DA:O and whatnot, I really like the idea of a game that plays like a first person shooter but uses magic. Mass Effect and Bioshock have something along these lines, but they don't follow the traditional fantasy conventions I so desperately crave.

The problem with Oblivion is first that the graphics are dated by now, and the spells don't look that awesome. The second issue I have is that the use of magic is one aspect of the overall game, and on a PC it is a bit clunky to use (having to switch between spells in a menu and cast with 'c').

So what other games are out there that satisfy my desire for a magic/spell focused first person experience? I appreciate any recommendations

... Actually, now that I think about it, third person would be just as cool so long as it was only one dude. DA:O is too concerned with group tactics for my taste. I want a game where a single mage can destroy everything. EVERYTHING.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 26 2010 10:54 GMT
#2
The Witcher.
I'd also recommend the Gothic series because they are great games, but it's probably too old if even Oblivion is too ugly for you. You superficial person you!
SMohyee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
August 26 2010 10:56 GMT
#3
Hahah yeah I am quite superficial when it comes to games these days. I grew up thinking Tie Fighter was the shit graphically, then BG2 blew me away.. now I'm spoiled by crysis and mass effect.
Actually should've mentioned Witcher, cuz I had heard about it.. Is it graphically better than oblivion?
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CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
August 26 2010 11:06 GMT
#4
If you liked oblivion u'll LOVE The Witcher... the graphics are still very nice, and the storyline is one of the best ever imo!

Get the enhanced version though.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 26 2010 11:08 GMT
#5
I don't remember much about the graphics of Oblivion or The Witcher, but The Witcher is younger and thus probably more technically advanced. Maybe search for some HD videos on Youtube and see if you like its looks.
I forgot to mention Risen, which is just about the same as Gothic but with a different name, and it's from 2009.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 11:16:47
August 26 2010 11:15 GMT
#6
Try Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Also The Witcher is 3rd-person diablo-like slasher, albeit with a complex story.
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
August 26 2010 14:18 GMT
#7
Not really a slasher pur-sang imo.. more trading/questing , and u can play in diff camera modes ^^
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LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
August 26 2010 15:02 GMT
#8
I doubt you can find it anymore but the first one of this genre was Lands of Lore by Westwood Studios. I loved playing that game!

Polarn
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway96 Posts
August 26 2010 15:05 GMT
#9
Oblivion is still prettyer than Dark Messiah and the witcher.. thing with Oblivion is that there's tens of thousands of mods to it.
Several houndred that makes the game itself better to look at and changes/adds spells..

With the basics of "beautifying" addons my computer can't run Oblivion at a playable FPS at all, and my computer is two years newer than the game itself.

Also, check out Risen. I can't remember if it's 3rd or 1st person, but the graphics are pretty sweet.. Storyline is pretty cool also, one of the few games that has got me to follow a storyline.
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
August 26 2010 15:27 GMT
#10
On August 27 2010 00:05 Polarn wrote:
Oblivion is still prettyer than Dark Messiah and the witcher.. thing with Oblivion is that there's tens of thousands of mods to it.
Several houndred that makes the game itself better to look at and changes/adds spells..

With the basics of "beautifying" addons my computer can't run Oblivion at a playable FPS at all, and my computer is two years newer than the game itself.


This is really true. A couple things to add:

You can set up hotkeys for spells for quicker casting if that's an issue. This way you can just hit 1 then c to cast, say, a weakness to fire spell, and then 2 then c to cast a fireball immediately after. If you weren't doing this, I can see how Oblivion would feel really clunky for a spellcaster.

There are a couple really popular magic-enhancing mods out there. They add quite a bit of depth to the magic system and are much more suited for playing a pure-caster than the base magic system alone. Really, the modders in the Morrowind/Oblivion community are amazing, and their works have gone a long way to making both games still interesting to play years later. You can find pretty much every mod you'd want at either TES Nexus or Planet Elder Scrolls
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Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
August 26 2010 16:21 GMT
#11
I am actually going to suggest Morrowind. The graphics are dated, but with the mods people have released, it looks better than oblivion, and has a better storyline imo.
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TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
August 26 2010 16:23 GMT
#12
Risen is very good but its not so much about magic. (I loved it thought)

The witcher dont have better graphics then Oblivion.
SMohyee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
August 26 2010 16:30 GMT
#13
Appreciate the feedback! Def gonna check out beautifying and magic enhancing mods..


And apparently Witcher 2 is coming in October.. so.. Cool.


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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
August 26 2010 16:30 GMT
#14
I would personally also go with oblivion. It's a good 30 hours worth of gameplay, and if you get it for PC (I got it for 360) theres tons of user made mods to add on.
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 26 2010 16:41 GMT
#15
neverwinter nights 2. graphics are starting to show their age, but the modding community is so huge that you always have new things to experience.
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Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
August 26 2010 16:45 GMT
#16
I am also looking for a Rpg, may it be 1st or 3rd person, with pretty graphics and good character development.

I played DA:origins, which was nice, but now I'm looking for a not so "tactical" more action like style

Can't find anything :.[
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 26 2010 16:46 GMT
#17
On August 27 2010 01:45 Tyri wrote:
I am also looking for a Rpg, may it be 1st or 3rd person, with pretty graphics and good character development.

I played DA:origins, which was nice, but now I'm looking for a not so "tactical" more action like style

Can't find anything :.[


have you tried borderlands?
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SMohyee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
August 26 2010 16:53 GMT
#18
On August 27 2010 01:46 Terranist wrote:
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On August 27 2010 01:45 Tyri wrote:
I am also looking for a Rpg, may it be 1st or 3rd person, with pretty graphics and good character development.

I played DA:origins, which was nice, but now I'm looking for a not so "tactical" more action like style

Can't find anything :.[


have you tried borderlands?


Indeed I have. I really couldn't keep it up after the first playthrough, its just too repetitive (haven't bought any DLCs). The "magic" class in that game is similar to the one in Mass Effect 2, but they aren't quit what I'm looking for in that regard.

Ideally, I'm imagining the spells/graphics in DA:O, but in the context of a single character game as opposed to part of group tactics.

BTW, QibingZero or anyone else: do you have any recommendations for the best graphics enhancements / magic use enhancements for oblivion? I'm checking out the Landscape LOD Texture Pack right now.
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
August 26 2010 17:02 GMT
#19
Try playing Oblivion on a console...

Wait for Diablo III lol
w/e
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
August 26 2010 17:08 GMT
#20
Risen is the newest Oblivion. From makers of Gothic series.. Great atmosphere and gameplay
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 17:40:24
August 26 2010 17:40 GMT
#21
On August 27 2010 01:30 SMohyee wrote:
Appreciate the feedback! Def gonna check out beautifying and magic enhancing mods..


And apparently Witcher 2 is coming in October.. so.. Cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JciyoGmnGyo


The Witcher 2 is first comming Q1 2011.
Danxor
Profile Joined April 2010
United States42 Posts
August 26 2010 17:59 GMT
#22
I still have Lands of Lore on Floppy Disk, not that I have a computer with a disk drive anymore.

The game was awesome, up until the point the last boss was bugged and not kill able.
Midvic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States15 Posts
August 26 2010 19:43 GMT
#23
For those of you who are interested in modding Oblivion, here are some guides from Something Awful forums where they walk you through managing many addons and suggest the best ones:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2978030
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3310676

They also have a great thread on modding Morrowind, and with some of the mods they've suggested, I would highly recommend replaying Morrowind with these mods, especially if you've never completed the main storyline.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3248990

As for new games, I was in the market myself and greatly appreciate the contributions in this thread, some of the trailers for these games look like a lot of fun.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
August 27 2010 10:40 GMT
#24
The SA posts above are actually quite a good resource. It will definitely seem like a lot of work to get that many mods working correctly, but it's worth it for just how utterly amazing the gameplay ends up being when you do.

As for Morrowind vs Oblivion, I too prefer Morrowind for various reasons (and have probably spent 10x more hours playing it), but Oblivion is fun in it's own way and I focused on it simply because the OP seemed concerned largely with graphics.

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Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
August 27 2010 11:07 GMT
#25
I really enjoyed Risen. The combat was very fun, but it was weak story/character wise.

The Witcher is amazing on all fronts.
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