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On August 16 2011 20:34 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:30 Obsidian wrote:
Pre -D1: The 3 Prime evils are banished/captured into soul-stones on Sanctuary by the old mage guilds, under the guidance of the angels.
D1: Oops, soul stones aren't a good holder for Prime Evils and in fact may make them stronger? Kill it!
D1->D2: Hun... soul stones eventually possess the bearer, turning them into the next Diablo, let's go take a walk.
D2: Banish lesser evil Andarial, Duriel, gather up soul stones and deliver them to hell, and break them. Seems like the soul stone plan was flawed by design thanks to a certain traitor angel. This won't 'kill' the evils, but it will keep them from manifesting on Sanctuary. Ooops, World Stone is broken, is that good? Bad?
D3: World Stone is broken, all hell's breaking loose again, it is the end of days. Is that supposed to be a mockery of some kind? I agree that the Diablo storyline isn't exactly the most revolutionary storyline(it isn't bad at all, it's just not very good) , but going about it this way isn't good imo. With the exception of the Metal Gear games you can literally sum up every games story like this.
well... compared to the war3 storyline, and VERY soon to be the sc2 storyline, the diablo series storylines are pretty good.
I mean at least it's not like "oh hey here's these villains doing bad shit all the time and making our lives hell but it turns out they're really just misunderstood/possessed and now they're our allies against the evil bad guys" again.
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On August 17 2011 05:20 benbrad2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 05:11 Gescom wrote:On August 17 2011 05:07 benbrad2 wrote:
d3 needs fresh faces in the development team.
Seriously, all d2 was pvp.
why? because its an "ACTION" RPG
let me tell you, we're not gonna play Action RPG to kill the same boss 20 million times like we did in D2 just for items.
You must be out of your mind as a developer if you think this is what we played D2.
Arpg is always PvP centric, its the core of what all "Action" Rpg should be.
Its quickly grab your weapon and go at your enemy.
Not form a 4 man party with buffs and start raiding like WoW which is an MMO.
sigh.. when will Blizzard ever get things right ?
Valve or RiotGaming will do a much better job of capturing the essence of what the game really needs to succeed.
LoL > SC2 btw (Just Numbers alone) LoL is a free to play game. What exactly are you getting at here? This post is pretty useless. You know whats useless? Another game that looks like WoW and that focuses on "PVE".... [Wait I forgot that's WoW] Free game always doesnt have more players. Not to mention that LoL has 20 times the user base of SC2. Also, the fact that Riot Gaming was never known to anyone before LoL, while Blizzard was arguably the best gaming company before the release of SC2..... hopefully their stocks dont go down even farther after the release of D3 or prior. and its the end of their game developement imo.
I really don't feel like responding to an obvious troll, but you've got me flustered with your craziness. Feel free to go post about how much you dislike D3 and SC2 on the riotgaming forums, by the way; but there's really no need to do it here.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 17 2011 06:03 darksub wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.diablo-3.net/wp-content/gallery/gamescom-2011/16082011_gamescom2011_rudolfplatz_006.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.diablo-3.net/wp-content/gallery/gamescom-2011/16082011_gamescom2011_rudolfplatz_012.jpg)
That looks sooo sick, I thought it was photo shopped but it's just the way he painted it. Wish I had cool nerds like this in my city =[
Edit~ put the quote in a spoiler
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On August 17 2011 04:10 Tulius wrote:
anyone else thinks that the "real" villain behind Diablo lore could be Tyrael?
I never got that BS about "having" to destroy the worldstone at the end of LOD...
or how creepy Tyrael looks at the D3 official website (http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/)
oh don't you know? super super mega spoilers.
+ Show Spoiler +this is like half the plot of d3, are you quite sure you want to spoil it for yourself + Show Spoiler +tyrael gets corrupted. not super surprising at this point
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so gonna buy this game and pwn all my friends
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On August 17 2011 06:29 jimmyjingle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 04:10 Tulius wrote:
anyone else thinks that the "real" villain behind Diablo lore could be Tyrael?
I never got that BS about "having" to destroy the worldstone at the end of LOD...
or how creepy Tyrael looks at the D3 official website (http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/) oh don't you know? super super mega spoilers. + Show Spoiler +this is like half the plot of d3, are you quite sure you want to spoil it for yourself + Show Spoiler +tyrael gets corrupted. not super surprising at this point
source?
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On August 17 2011 05:20 benbrad2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 05:11 Gescom wrote:On August 17 2011 05:07 benbrad2 wrote:
d3 needs fresh faces in the development team.
Seriously, all d2 was pvp.
why? because its an "ACTION" RPG
let me tell you, we're not gonna play Action RPG to kill the same boss 20 million times like we did in D2 just for items.
You must be out of your mind as a developer if you think this is what we played D2.
Arpg is always PvP centric, its the core of what all "Action" Rpg should be.
Its quickly grab your weapon and go at your enemy.
Not form a 4 man party with buffs and start raiding like WoW which is an MMO.
sigh.. when will Blizzard ever get things right ?
Valve or RiotGaming will do a much better job of capturing the essence of what the game really needs to succeed.
LoL > SC2 btw (Just Numbers alone) LoL is a free to play game. What exactly are you getting at here? This post is pretty useless. You know whats useless? Another game that looks like WoW and that focuses on "PVE".... [Wait I forgot that's WoW] Free game always doesnt have more players. Not to mention that LoL has 20 times the user base of SC2. Also, the fact that Riot Gaming was never known to anyone before LoL, while Blizzard was arguably the best gaming company before the release of SC2..... hopefully their stocks dont go down even farther after the release of D3 or prior. and its the end of their game developement imo.
and by your argument, farmville is better then every game out there.
Also, by your argument, WoW > LoL because of numbers.
Contradictions?
Personally I am really looking forward to the different feel of the characters in diablo 3, even if the game play remains the same. Why ruin a winning formula?
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On August 17 2011 05:20 benbrad2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 05:11 Gescom wrote:On August 17 2011 05:07 benbrad2 wrote:
d3 needs fresh faces in the development team.
Seriously, all d2 was pvp.
why? because its an "ACTION" RPG
let me tell you, we're not gonna play Action RPG to kill the same boss 20 million times like we did in D2 just for items.
You must be out of your mind as a developer if you think this is what we played D2.
Arpg is always PvP centric, its the core of what all "Action" Rpg should be.
Its quickly grab your weapon and go at your enemy.
Not form a 4 man party with buffs and start raiding like WoW which is an MMO.
sigh.. when will Blizzard ever get things right ?
Valve or RiotGaming will do a much better job of capturing the essence of what the game really needs to succeed.
LoL > SC2 btw (Just Numbers alone) LoL is a free to play game. What exactly are you getting at here? This post is pretty useless. You know whats useless? Another game that looks like WoW and that focuses on "PVE".... [Wait I forgot that's WoW] Free game always doesnt have more players. Not to mention that LoL has 20 times the user base of SC2. Also, the fact that Riot Gaming was never known to anyone before LoL, while Blizzard was arguably the best gaming company before the release of SC2..... hopefully their stocks dont go down even farther after the release of D3 or prior. and its the end of their game developement imo.
how deluded does one have to be to think that diablo3 is gonna be the end of blizzard's great career? dude, SERIOUSLY... how the hell can you be thinking like that? they are still running the most successful MMO ever and have released an extremely succesful RTS... oh yea, D3 will be their end... it will be a huge monetary success, but blizzard's end. yes. it will. oh come on...
haters are so ridiculous. why does everyone have to cry over everything? if you don't like something, just ignore it and spend your time with something you actually do enjoy. oh wait, i guess you enjoy hating and flaming. cool. keep going.
:facepalm:
d3 is gonna be AWESOME and a huge success. no doubt about that. absolutely not the slightest doubt. the only people who will cry about d3 will be a particular group of d2 players who miss something they enjoyed beforehands, but everyone else will love the game. blizzard's career is gonna end NAO.
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On August 17 2011 05:20 benbrad2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 05:11 Gescom wrote:On August 17 2011 05:07 benbrad2 wrote:
d3 needs fresh faces in the development team.
Seriously, all d2 was pvp.
why? because its an "ACTION" RPG
let me tell you, we're not gonna play Action RPG to kill the same boss 20 million times like we did in D2 just for items.
You must be out of your mind as a developer if you think this is what we played D2.
Arpg is always PvP centric, its the core of what all "Action" Rpg should be.
Its quickly grab your weapon and go at your enemy.
Not form a 4 man party with buffs and start raiding like WoW which is an MMO.
sigh.. when will Blizzard ever get things right ?
Valve or RiotGaming will do a much better job of capturing the essence of what the game really needs to succeed.
LoL > SC2 btw (Just Numbers alone) LoL is a free to play game. What exactly are you getting at here? This post is pretty useless. You know whats useless? Another game that looks like WoW and that focuses on "PVE".... [Wait I forgot that's WoW] Free game always doesnt have more players. Not to mention that LoL has 20 times the user base of SC2. Also, the fact that Riot Gaming was never known to anyone before LoL, while Blizzard was arguably the best gaming company before the release of SC2..... hopefully their stocks dont go down even farther after the release of D3 or prior. and its the end of their game developement imo.
I sure do know what is useless. Uninformed comments like these. Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously? D3 will be hugely successful initially because of the hype and the name, and it will have staying power with a real cash auction house, the first of its type really for online gaming.
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On August 17 2011 05:22 Drowsy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 20:34 heishe wrote:On August 16 2011 20:30 Obsidian wrote:
Pre -D1: The 3 Prime evils are banished/captured into soul-stones on Sanctuary by the old mage guilds, under the guidance of the angels.
D1: Oops, soul stones aren't a good holder for Prime Evils and in fact may make them stronger? Kill it!
D1->D2: Hun... soul stones eventually possess the bearer, turning them into the next Diablo, let's go take a walk.
D2: Banish lesser evil Andarial, Duriel, gather up soul stones and deliver them to hell, and break them. Seems like the soul stone plan was flawed by design thanks to a certain traitor angel. This won't 'kill' the evils, but it will keep them from manifesting on Sanctuary. Ooops, World Stone is broken, is that good? Bad?
D3: World Stone is broken, all hell's breaking loose again, it is the end of days. Is that supposed to be a mockery of some kind? I agree that the Diablo storyline isn't exactly the most revolutionary storyline(it isn't bad at all, it's just not very good) , but going about it this way isn't good imo. With the exception of the Metal Gear games you can literally sum up every games story like this. well... compared to the war3 storyline, and VERY soon to be the sc2 storyline, the diablo series storylines are pretty good. I mean at least it's not like "oh hey here's these villains doing bad shit all the time and making our lives hell but it turns out they're really just misunderstood/possessed and now they're our allies against the evil bad guys" again.
haha what if diablo turns out to be the good one all along? 
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If Blizzard released a 10 MB flash game named Diablo 3, and charged $60 for it, they would still probably make a million sales. Just being the successor to Diablo 2 is a clear ticket to a hugely successful launch. Anyone who somehow convinces themselves otherwise is just........madly deluded. *cough* benbrad2 *cough*
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On August 17 2011 05:07 benbrad2 wrote:
d3 needs fresh faces in the development team.
Seriously, all d2 was pvp.
why? because its an "ACTION" RPG
let me tell you, we're not gonna play Action RPG to kill the same boss 20 million times like we did in D2 just for items.
You must be out of your mind as a developer if you think this is what we played D2.
Arpg is always PvP centric, its the core of what all "Action" Rpg should be.
Its quickly grab your weapon and go at your enemy.
Not form a 4 man party with buffs and start raiding like WoW which is an MMO.
sigh.. when will Blizzard ever get things right ?
Valve or RiotGaming will do a much better job of capturing the essence of what the game really needs to succeed.
LoL > SC2 btw (Just Numbers alone)
When will blizz ever get things right? Try 15 years ago. Blizzard makes the best games in the world.
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On August 15 2011 21:19 VaySept wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 20:59 Belial88 wrote:I've played D2HC for several months (around patch 1.11) with a few friends without any hack, any trade. Items we got were not the best ones, for sure, but we still managed to get a complete Tal Rasha, a complete IK, a few nice runes (1 Ber, a few Ist's and Gul's). And we did enough Baal runs to have 5 characters above lvl 90.
And it's absolutely possible to play without Enigma. You're a bit slower, but safer. Because teleporting blindly in the middle of mobs (possibly mana burn) is just stupid anyway.
I hope I'll find time for D3... The drop hack came around 1.12, so I can understand that you may not have needed hacks yourself on HC. But make no doubt, when drophack first was released, at least 1 out of 10 people had it on HC, and given how PKers just join game after game after game, and only 10-30 public games exist on Normal, 5-10 on HC, and 1-3 on Hell, that meant everyone ran into it and lost characters to it. Mouse's maphack was a convenient, very popular way to prevent drophack, which also got a lot of people banned. Also Enigma did not exist in patch 1.11, and teleporting into mobs due to mana burn and the like was much more dangerous before 1.13 when gear and skills were all around shittier. The max damage a sorc could do back then was extremely low (besides meteor), and the life of all characters were a lot lower, especially without that runeword that allowed any character to give themself battle orders. And people did not baal in 1.11, they did cow runs. However in 1.13 they also made mobs a lot harder, and they made cow runs terrible for leveling, so the only way to really grind Baal without a teleport sorc leading the party was with enigma and the benefits of cheap epics. Enigma (and a shitload of expensive runewords) appeared in patch 1.10. CTA (call to arms) appeared in the same patch. And a lot of amazing stuff was already available at that time (death's web, stormlash, griffon's eye, for instance). I am not even sure new unique appeared later, only new runewords iirc. I think you are confusing patch 1.11 with 1.08 or something. I've never seen anyone doing Hell-Cowruns in 1.11. The only few public games I played were with characters under lvl 20, and I were never killed by a PK (I've seen a few though).
Derp, yea I confused it. Drophack came in patch 1.09, all the runewords and epics came in patch 1.10.
But having to play only on private with just a few friends is kind of just not playing online really at all, you might as well have played LAN. Not eveyrone has the luxury of that much time and dedicated friends with that much time to do that though. It sounds a bit hard to believe you played only in private rooms with just a few friends, and never traded, and got to lvl 90+.
Especially since there were lvl 70s on the HC ladder, and those were people who hacked/traded/botted even.
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Any news about D3 and its beta?
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On August 17 2011 22:17 Krowser wrote:
Any news about D3 and its beta?
Last news we got is that it will start before the end of Q3(Before the end of September).
If anyone else got any more recent news, let us know! 
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On August 17 2011 23:22 lurked wrote:Last news we got is that it will start before the end of Q3(Before the end of September). If anyone else got any more recent news, let us know!
Sadly, the biggest BETA news we got in the last week was that it will start "Radament, on a scale of ghoul to Baal".
Which pretty much means the same as soon.
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