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On August 03 2011 21:18 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack off "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. You can play singleplayer, both campaign and custom, without internet. The only difference is that you can't earn achivements.
Ah alright, thanks for clearing that out! 
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On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy.
Because there surely isn't any cracked WoW servers out there?
Sure, they weren't as popular because scripted events tended to get screwed up more than on blizzards servers, and some drops were just grossly overpowered...
But I don't see people playing Diablo for the huge community like in WoW. So my bet is there will be a fully working cracked Diablo 3 in less than a month from release.
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On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy.
I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof.
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On August 03 2011 21:49 Danjoh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. Because there surely isn't any cracked WoW servers out there? Sure, they weren't as popular because scripted events tended to get screwed up more than on blizzards servers, and some drops were just grossly overpowered... But I don't see people playing Diablo for the huge community like in WoW. So my bet is there will be a fully working cracked Diablo 3 in less than a month from release.
IIRC someone has been able to emulate bnet 2.0 now, so it will be even easier to pirate since the major work has already been done.
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This thread has gone CRAZY since the NDA was lifted lol
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On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive item
There's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stm
There, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game.
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On August 03 2011 22:04 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive itemThere's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stmThere, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game.
You can't see it like that tho... since the only guy making money from the d2jsp scam is njaguar... you can have a trillion fg, but at the end of the day you can't exchange it for real money.
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On August 03 2011 22:11 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 22:04 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive itemThere's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stmThere, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game. You can't see it like that tho... since the only guy making money from the d2jsp scam is njaguar... you can have a trillion fg, but at the end of the day you can't exchange it for real money.
What?
1. Buy item with fg.
2. Sell item to itemshop for money.
3. ???
4. Profit!
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On August 03 2011 22:12 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 22:11 Technique wrote:On August 03 2011 22:04 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive itemThere's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stmThere, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game. You can't see it like that tho... since the only guy making money from the d2jsp scam is njaguar... you can have a trillion fg, but at the end of the day you can't exchange it for real money. What? 1. Buy item with fg. 2. Sell item to itemshop for money. 3. ??? 4. Profit!
Actually itemshops got members on there with there own sick amount of fg... they won't need average joe to sell them a item for real money.
Nice try tho .
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On August 03 2011 22:14 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 22:12 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 22:11 Technique wrote:On August 03 2011 22:04 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive itemThere's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stmThere, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game. You can't see it like that tho... since the only guy making money from the d2jsp scam is njaguar... you can have a trillion fg, but at the end of the day you can't exchange it for real money. What? 1. Buy item with fg. 2. Sell item to itemshop for money. 3. ??? 4. Profit! Actually itemshops got members on there with there own sick amount of fg... they won't need average joe to sell them a item for real money. Nice try tho .
And if one of these guys buys an item for his shop then... what?
What is wrong with the people in this thread, are you all underage?
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On August 03 2011 21:57 Perseverance wrote:
This thread has gone CRAZY since the NDA was lifted lol
what's NDA?
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On August 03 2011 22:31 Raidern wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 21:57 Perseverance wrote:
This thread has gone CRAZY since the NDA was lifted lol what's NDA?
it's Non-disclosure agreement
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On August 03 2011 22:20 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 22:14 Technique wrote:On August 03 2011 22:12 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 22:11 Technique wrote:On August 03 2011 22:04 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive itemThere's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stmThere, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game. You can't see it like that tho... since the only guy making money from the d2jsp scam is njaguar... you can have a trillion fg, but at the end of the day you can't exchange it for real money. What? 1. Buy item with fg. 2. Sell item to itemshop for money. 3. ??? 4. Profit! Actually itemshops got members on there with there own sick amount of fg... they won't need average joe to sell them a item for real money. Nice try tho . And if one of these guys buys an item for his shop then... what? What is wrong with the people in this thread, are you all underage?
Well you made it look like you can compare fg to real cash... you must basically have a itemshop or hope some sucker buys something overpriced on ebay to turn it into real money... and even if that 1 item sells for 75000fg, which sucker u gonna find to buy that for 2400 dollars? Hence your comparison was pointless.
The only 1 selling fg is njaguar, so the comparison only really goes up for him i guess... cause even those itemshops everything is super cheap due to high supply, low demand (duping etc).
Oh well at least they shut out this njaguar guy with the AH, which is definitely a good thing.
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On August 03 2011 21:07 Lowkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 20:06 BrahCJ wrote:On August 03 2011 19:55 Odoakar wrote:
The lucky one that gets a Zod like drop rate item (pre 1.13) will make a killing on AH...I'm pretty certain such items could go for 1k $ or more Which would be awesome, however. I wouldn't pay a % listing fee (could be 3%, not paying $30 to list) and then be undercut by $1. Listing fees are stupid. They said the fee would be a flat amount and not percentage. I think most of you are completely overestimating the auction house, Diablo is simply not WoW. In WoW raiding was the endgame and you needed awesome gear for it, but there just isn't the incentive to buy crazy gear in Diablo, it is a different game. The Arena in Diablo also isn't half as competitive as the one in WoW, Diablo is a full Coop action rpg with little amounts of actual rpg content, everything about this game is just finding awesome items. I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. I hate playing people that are way better than me or way worse than me Diablo PvP will have matchmaking with invisible ratings. So it's still going to match someone with someone you're level. It's just not going to give you data for bragging rights.
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On August 03 2011 22:33 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 22:20 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 22:14 Technique wrote:On August 03 2011 22:12 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 22:11 Technique wrote:On August 03 2011 22:04 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:On August 03 2011 21:50 Xedat wrote:On August 03 2011 21:23 delHospital wrote:On August 03 2011 20:56 Xedat wrote:
I predict that the most any item is sold for is 20 dollars, maybe 50 if it is the first extremely high quality gem on the market or something, but more is just wishful thinking. The best blue/rare/crafted items in D2 were worth $1-2k. What makes you think that no item will be worth >$50? On August 03 2011 21:13 Grettin wrote:Ehm, i'm not actually sure but can you play SC2 offline? I thought you can't. :D But they explained the lack of "offline play" because it was somekind of problem in D2 that people duplicated items or something and because of cracked/illegal copies and so on. Feel free to tell the exact reason if you know. If there's no offline play, there's no piracy. I never used d2jsp, but I honestly doubt that anyone paid 1000 US Dollars for any item in Diablo 2. If you claim that this has happened I would like to have some proof. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d2jsp most expensive itemThere's talk about one item being sold for 75000fg, that's about $2400. They also talk about an item from the sites own flash game that's been sold for 100000, that's about $3000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4104731.stmThere, some guy payed $26000 for an island in a game. You can't see it like that tho... since the only guy making money from the d2jsp scam is njaguar... you can have a trillion fg, but at the end of the day you can't exchange it for real money. What? 1. Buy item with fg. 2. Sell item to itemshop for money. 3. ??? 4. Profit! Actually itemshops got members on there with there own sick amount of fg... they won't need average joe to sell them a item for real money. Nice try tho . And if one of these guys buys an item for his shop then... what? What is wrong with the people in this thread, are you all underage? Well you made it look like you can compare fg to real cash... you must basically have a itemshop or hope some sucker buys something overpriced on ebay to turn it into real money... and even if that 1 item sells for 75000fg, which sucker u gonna find to buy that for 2400 dollars? Hence your comparison was pointless. The only 1 selling fg is njaguar, so the comparison only really goes up for him i guess... cause even those itemshops everything is super cheap due to high supply, low demand (duping etc). Oh well at least they shut out this njaguar guy with the AH, which is definitely a good thing.
- The donor forum is a place for those who have donated to njaguar. In the donor forums is a sub forum, where donors can make "real life" trades for forum gold. Donating to njaguar doesn't guarantee you access to the donor forums. Those who have donated at least $25 will be screened for entry by njaguar.
I would never donate a single dollar to that guy, so I don't have access to the donor forum, but this makes it sound like fg does have a real value.
Anyway, some d2 items were worth far more than $50, and I'm sure that will still be the case in d3.
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Wait, so the info about there being only 3 passives and 8 actives was false? Or more to the point, no skill points but you do get to choose skills? Damn, did I misunderstand that bit 
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Apart from super rare, godly items, I doubt I will bother with the cash AH. I'll take a wait-and-see approach to the gold AH...but I fear it's going to be more of the bottom denominator trading on those. Thus, I think JSP is going to remain the ideal place for fast, efficient trading - especially when trading items of utility. For JSPers, I'm talking mid-reset or later, so something that is <100fg I would consider utility level. Of course once you have an item that is unanimously considered godly (and you want to sell it) - sure the cash AH makes sense. But only for those instances.
This kind of depends on how the equipment has changed from D2 to D3. I really want school uniform R/Ws to be gone, so that truly rares rule the roost the way they did in D2 Vanilla, but that may be a pipe dream. *I still need to read-up on the updates as they are being released, so if this was already covered by Bashiok or someone else, please correct me.
@trainRiderJ - Good links, thanks.
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On August 03 2011 23:12 Wesso wrote:Wait, so the info about there being only 3 passives and 8 actives was false? Or more to the point, no skill points but you do get to choose skills? Damn, did I misunderstand that bit
You will get all the abilities, but when you go out adventuring, you can only bring 8 active and 3 passive ones with you.
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On August 03 2011 23:28 Danjoh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 23:12 Wesso wrote:Wait, so the info about there being only 3 passives and 8 actives was false? Or more to the point, no skill points but you do get to choose skills? Damn, did I misunderstand that bit You will get all the abilities, but when you go out adventuring, you can only bring 8 active and 3 passive ones with you.
If you've ever played Guild Wars it's that basically.
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