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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 11:11:04
April 06 2010 11:04 GMT
#81
Dark Colony, Armies of Exigo are great games. Too bad they weren't competitive enough, because they didn't get enough exposure(the former being released pre 2000 (like 1998?) and the latter competing with DoW IIRC). Hell, even CnC3 vanilla was fun (IMO the Kane expansion did more damage than good)
KKND, Age of Empires I and II were fun as hell. Dune 2000 kicked so much ass.

Warcraft II was fun, but the imba bloodlust sucks the fun out of it, even though invisibility has no counter humans get raped before they get to tier 3. And there are a hell of a lot more fun RTSes out there than WCII
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 06 2010 14:57 GMT
#82
Bloodlust and DKs ruined this game for me. A 3rd faction in this game would have made it golden.
Get it by your hands...
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
April 08 2010 08:31 GMT
#83

Some of you may remember that Starcraft was originally based off of the Warcraft 2 engine, and was pretty close to completion. It was only after the backlash from the community - i.e. Blizzard has just gone and made "orcs in space" without any substance - that Blizzard completely redesigned the game to what we have now.

there's some screenshots of what it looked like here:

http://sclegacy.com/editorials/34-general/270-starcraft-evolution
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
February 22 2016 10:14 GMT
#84
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-22 10:19:41
February 22 2016 10:18 GMT
#85
On March 17 2010 18:19 Kaniol wrote:
WarCraft 1 was even more pure, you had to issue commands by first clicking order icon. And max selection was 4, not 9
But did seriously warcraft 2 not have control groups? I think it had but i'm too lazy to install just to check


There were shortcuts for move and attack as i remember. Dune 2 didn't have shortcuts for exemple and selection was 1 unit only :p

EDIT : Fuck me i quoted a 6year old posts because the new color doesn't show you how old the post is ><

On February 22 2016 19:14 thezanursic wrote:
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?


It might be a Keyboard layout issue; LIke Control Groups were on 1 instead of & or something like that
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-22 10:23:17
February 22 2016 10:21 GMT
#86
On February 22 2016 19:18 FFW_Rude wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2016 19:14 thezanursic wrote:
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?


It might be a Keyboard layout issue; LIke Control Groups were on 1 instead of & or something like that

Any chance you could be a bit more specific I don't quite understand.

Also I tried other commands such as alt-M for turning music on and off, all of that works, control groups don't.

I dunno what's up. Did WC2 only have control groups in the latter editions and I accidently downloaded the wrong one?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-22 10:27:53
February 22 2016 10:27 GMT
#87
On February 22 2016 19:21 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2016 19:18 FFW_Rude wrote:

On February 22 2016 19:14 thezanursic wrote:
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?


It might be a Keyboard layout issue; LIke Control Groups were on 1 instead of & or something like that

Any chance you could be a bit more specific I don't quite understand.

Also I tried other commands such as alt-M for turning music on and off, all of that works, control groups don't.

I dunno what's up. Did WC2 only have control groups in the latter editions and I accidently downloaded the wrong one?


I think it's only in the Battle.net edition. Not the vanilla one.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
February 22 2016 11:57 GMT
#88
On February 22 2016 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2016 19:21 thezanursic wrote:
On February 22 2016 19:18 FFW_Rude wrote:

On February 22 2016 19:14 thezanursic wrote:
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?


It might be a Keyboard layout issue; LIke Control Groups were on 1 instead of & or something like that

Any chance you could be a bit more specific I don't quite understand.

Also I tried other commands such as alt-M for turning music on and off, all of that works, control groups don't.

I dunno what's up. Did WC2 only have control groups in the latter editions and I accidently downloaded the wrong one?


I think it's only in the Battle.net edition. Not the vanilla one.

How did that work? Did you have to REBUY the game/expansion to get on battle.net back in the day?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-22 12:20:23
February 22 2016 12:19 GMT
#89
On February 22 2016 20:57 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2016 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 22 2016 19:21 thezanursic wrote:
On February 22 2016 19:18 FFW_Rude wrote:

On February 22 2016 19:14 thezanursic wrote:
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?


It might be a Keyboard layout issue; LIke Control Groups were on 1 instead of & or something like that

Any chance you could be a bit more specific I don't quite understand.

Also I tried other commands such as alt-M for turning music on and off, all of that works, control groups don't.

I dunno what's up. Did WC2 only have control groups in the latter editions and I accidently downloaded the wrong one?


I think it's only in the Battle.net edition. Not the vanilla one.

How did that work? Did you have to REBUY the game/expansion to get on battle.net back in the day?


Yes. Warcraft II got two editions. One is Warcraft II : Tides of Darkness and the other is Warcraft II : Tides of Darkness Battle.net edition (iirc). I think the Battle.net edition includes "Beyond the dark portal"
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
February 24 2016 07:54 GMT
#90
On February 22 2016 21:19 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2016 20:57 lestye wrote:
On February 22 2016 19:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On February 22 2016 19:21 thezanursic wrote:
On February 22 2016 19:18 FFW_Rude wrote:

On February 22 2016 19:14 thezanursic wrote:
Necroing this thread because I need help.

Installed Warcraft II and running it via DOSBOX everything except for control groups work fine, on my previous computer I could set up my control groups easily, soo I don't know why it doesn't work on my current computer, any ideas?


It might be a Keyboard layout issue; LIke Control Groups were on 1 instead of & or something like that

Any chance you could be a bit more specific I don't quite understand.

Also I tried other commands such as alt-M for turning music on and off, all of that works, control groups don't.

I dunno what's up. Did WC2 only have control groups in the latter editions and I accidently downloaded the wrong one?


I think it's only in the Battle.net edition. Not the vanilla one.

How did that work? Did you have to REBUY the game/expansion to get on battle.net back in the day?


Yes. Warcraft II got two editions. One is Warcraft II : Tides of Darkness and the other is Warcraft II : Tides of Darkness Battle.net edition (iirc). I think the Battle.net edition includes "Beyond the dark portal"


I downloaded the Warcombat version, and the hotkeys work perfectly now.
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ishmoks
Profile Joined November 2010
Philippines50 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 06:30:14
March 16 2016 06:28 GMT
#91
Anyone here playing at the war2? I recently started playing and learning some "cookbooks" from veteran players.

Haven't been playing sc2 , War2 really got my attention and I wanna get good.

For those interested, you guys should give it a go its still an amazing game

you can download Warcraft 2 combat edition here: http://en.war2.ru/
I play Type 1
azmarco
Profile Joined January 2016
France5 Posts
March 18 2016 09:00 GMT
#92
On March 17 2010 19:28 Coulthard wrote:
Warcraft 2 is my second most favorite rts ever and in my opinion the best blizzard ost so far


Same here.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 13:59:09
March 18 2016 13:58 GMT
#93
WC2 started it all for me but I feel like actually playing it now would just ruin the precious memories. I never touched the multiplayer (no internets back then) though, so that might be worth a try.
don't wall off against random
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 17:48:52
March 18 2016 17:48 GMT
#94
I gave it a try recently and honestly, compared to brood war it's quite a dull game. As far as I understood, there's only one playable race, a single competitive map (gardens of war) that has imbalanced spawns, limited micro, too few viable units (grunts => ogres + some deathknights) and the list goes on.

It's still one of the classic RTS games out there, but once you've played brood war all the others tend to become stale (aside from wc3 tft).
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Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
March 18 2016 19:05 GMT
#95
Limited control groups and bad pathing makes it very broodwar-esque in the sense that it requires insane mechanics. Economy keeps scaling as long as you can keep your expansion safe.

And getting from Grunts to Ogres without getting killed or getting them later than your opponent is quite the challenge.

Building placement matters a lot! they can help create chokes or concaves (buildings have relatively high hp, and not many units can attack them at the same time)

game is not dead at all
ishmoks
Profile Joined November 2010
Philippines50 Posts
March 21 2016 03:39 GMT
#96
Yes there is a small active player base. For a 21 year old game that's pretty good.

I play war2 more than sc2 now haha
I play Type 1
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
March 21 2016 04:53 GMT
#97
yeah who doesn't love bloodlustcraft?
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