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malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
February 27 2010 17:32 GMT
#261
17. c4
Nosmo
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada210 Posts
February 28 2010 19:01 GMT
#262
17.c4
Killer next Bonjwa//Much is also good//Savior what happened//Fuck yeah, Nal_ra!
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
March 01 2010 06:13 GMT
#263
UPDATE

17.c4 c5


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Looks about even to my eyes.
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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
March 01 2010 06:25 GMT
#264
18.Bc3

By the book through 17 moves. @@
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
March 01 2010 06:41 GMT
#265
I know book to about move 30 from this position, but eventually we will play chess Besides, you're free to vary at any point.
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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
March 01 2010 07:16 GMT
#266
Well, we have to vote for the move that we want, so it is very unlikely that we'll delve out of theory first. Just wondering, but do you know book moves for the sideline/non-classical variations for the caro-kann as well (exchange and advance variations)?
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
March 01 2010 07:43 GMT
#267
Im a Master, so sadly, hundreds of hours of my life have been given over to this opening...That said, there are a couple of lines in the advance (the odd sidelines really), and in the classical (6.Bc4 often gives me headaches with sacrifices on e6).

But in all the mainlines / major sidelines, im very solid indeed. I haven't lost to a non-GM in two years, the caro is like my best friend. Still, I haven't one many games though (except in blitz, lots of wins in blitz).
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Sterling
Profile Joined December 2009
United States182 Posts
March 01 2010 09:31 GMT
#268
u guys played the bf4 and ne4 line?
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-01 13:42:00
March 01 2010 13:01 GMT
#269
18. Bc3
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Nothing else seems to keep the positional balance intact. Also I can't think of anything better at the moment. Not really a fan of passive by-the-book chess but it will probably get more interesting with the next 2-3 moves. I expect him either taking on d4 in case he wants to spice things up, in which case we should recapture with the knight OR he could just play passive and do Kb8 or something (that's the "standard" continuation, right?)
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 01 2010 14:25 GMT
#270
On March 01 2010 22:01 CubEdIn wrote:
18. Bc3
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Nothing else seems to keep the positional balance intact. Also I can't think of anything better at the moment. Not really a fan of passive by-the-book chess but it will probably get more interesting with the next 2-3 moves. I expect him either taking on d4 in case he wants to spice things up, in which case we should recapture with the knight OR he could just play passive and do Kb8 or something (that's the "standard" continuation, right?)

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We could play d5, that's a decent move. Whatever we play it's not going to catch him off guard. He will probably play Nf6 against either Bc3 or d5 (maybe xd4 against Bc3); ultimately the game won't be decided by this move.
I'm going to vote d5 because I like the continuation:
18. d5 Nf6
19. Qc2 exd5
20. cxd5 Rhe8
21. Bc3 Qd7
22. Bxf6 gxf6
Doubling the black pawns.
Eventually then our goal is promote on the d file; being wary of losing our h file pawn and possible promotion for black on that side.

18. d5
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
March 02 2010 03:30 GMT
#271
18. Bc3
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malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 05:37:15
March 02 2010 05:36 GMT
#272
18. Bc3
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d5?! runs into Nf6, creating a great target on d5, for instance after Qd3 exd5 cxd5 we have no moves to improve our position and black has a big red bullseye on d5
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 03 2010 10:38 GMT
#273
On March 02 2010 14:36 malathion wrote:
18. Bc3
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d5?! runs into Nf6, creating a great target on d5, for instance after Qd3 exd5 cxd5 we have no moves to improve our position and black has a big red bullseye on d5

+ Show Spoiler +
You wouldn't play Qd3 that's an awful move. You didn't even bother to read my continuation.
d5 is good (so is Bc3).
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malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
March 04 2010 07:42 GMT
#274
On March 03 2010 19:38 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 14:36 malathion wrote:
18. Bc3
+ Show Spoiler +
d5?! runs into Nf6, creating a great target on d5, for instance after Qd3 exd5 cxd5 we have no moves to improve our position and black has a big red bullseye on d5

+ Show Spoiler +
You wouldn't play Qd3 that's an awful move. You didn't even bother to read my continuation.
d5 is good (so is Bc3).

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Take it easy bro, we're on the same team. I did read your continuation because you got it out of a book, but I don't think the situation is much different after Qc2 and I don't see a path to victory for us with the blockaded target on d5; black has no weaknesses and there's no way to get at the f6 pawn even if black accepts doubled pawns, which he doesn't have to do.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
March 04 2010 22:37 GMT
#275
UPDATE

18.Bc3 Rhe8


[image loading]
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 04 2010 23:36 GMT
#276
19. Qe2
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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
March 04 2010 23:49 GMT
#277
19.Qe2
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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
March 05 2010 04:17 GMT
#278
Qe2??? Why?

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Why move our Queen back? We have good center control and we aren't defending anything with that move. What are we preparing for? Wouldn't a move like Qe7 help us put a little pressure on him?


I really like + Show Spoiler +
Qe1 and then we threaten his Queen and Rook with our Bishop.


But of course, I am 99% sure I'm missing something since that's how I roll :p

jfazz WTH are you talking about you being a master? I thought you were getting there but were not ACTUALLY there yet.
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woody_
Profile Joined July 2009
Spain38 Posts
March 05 2010 04:58 GMT
#279
19. Rhe1

Is good column to place Rock in this positional game
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
March 05 2010 10:28 GMT
#280
On March 05 2010 13:17 Arhkangel wrote:
jfazz WTH are you talking about you being a master? I thought you were getting there but were not ACTUALLY there yet.

Just waiting for it to become official in the mail - I need to wait until the next release - but I have collected all my norms, and my rating should be about 2330 now. So yay.
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