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SOB_Maj_Brian
United States522 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + followed by Nc6 edit: forgot spoiler | ||
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
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jfazz
Australia672 Posts
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On November 02 2009 06:36 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote: Why is c5 being so overlooked? + Show Spoiler + followed by Nc6 edit: forgot spoiler + Show Spoiler + Because the queen-side attack is possible (a5) without wasting time on rerouting via Nd2. Nc6 forces him to either abandon the queen-side temporarily which leaves us in a solid position, or we trade off the white square bishops then his other bishop is not as useful in the offensive due to the pawn structure and our solid defense, giving him very limited tactical possibilities. c5 might be useful later, but if we reroute our bishop to b7 first, it would make it even more possible, and this is the most logical line from here anyways. So yay us :D | ||
lightman
United States731 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 10 a5! Qe7 11 axb6 a7xb6 12 RxR RxR although I know my option will not win, I think and I agree on 9.. Nc6 is fine too, but me personally me, I would play 9... Nbd7 the reason why I don't like 9.. Nc6 is because I think maybe white will try + Show Spoiler + 9 a4 Nc6 10 c5 ! Na5 11 Ba3 Ne4 12 cxd6 cxd6 or any of those variations pretty much evening both center and queenside. and the game looks with no advantage for either white or black. I may be incorrect or wrong in my analysis, my QID play is weaker at this point than my QGD or Slav, please feel free to fix or input suggestions question: what if + Show Spoiler + 9 a4 Nc6 10 d5 ! ?? | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
10 c5 10 d5 + Show Spoiler + both get responded to with 10. ... Na5 hitting the c4 square. I'm not sure what the plan is with on the c5 line is with 11. Ba3 but I'd play 11. ... dxc5 winning a pawn. White can trade 12 dxc5 Qxd1 13. Rxd1 Nb3 and that preserves black's queen side pawn structure. as for d5 I don't see what stops black from playing e5 one turn later. After that Ba6 hitting the c4 pawn a second time and then black can reroute knight to c4. With the deadlock in the center, white will have to deal with that knight or trade his good bishop (dark) to get rid of it.. | ||
Vekzel
Poland142 Posts
3... 2... 1... VOTING! | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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iloveambiguity
United States81 Posts
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jfazz
Australia672 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I do not see the purpose of 10. Rb1; the most immediate threat is the line a) 10. Rb1 Na5 11. c5, to which we can play either a1) 11...Qe7 12. cxd6 cxd6, followed up by moves like either (Rac8 and Nd5 to assault the backwards c3 pawn, but perhaps prefaced by Ba6 to pressure and pin the e2 pawn, as well as momentarily tie down his queen?) or alteratively, play for a knight outpost on c4, after trading out light square bishop for his f3 knight, to prevent the exchange Nd2-xc4, then play d5 to solidify our centre and lock out his light bishop. that c4 knight could be quite the monster going into an endgame, especially against a tame bishop. Ba3 is not a posible counter now that the Rook is no longer on a1, due to Nc4 coming with tempo. b) 11...dxc5 12. dxc5 and now: b1) 12...Be4 13. Ra1 Nd5 14. Bb2 (or d2, very similar lines) Nc4 15. Qc1 bxc6 and we win a pawn and control of the b-file for our rooks. Note any rook move now wins a tempo as it his the bishop again. ill do more later, its a public holiday here | ||
anImaru
United States106 Posts
jfrazz: + Show Spoiler + If 11. c5 then Be4 seems better than Qe7 | ||
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Australia672 Posts
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Philippines2701 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Finland86 Posts
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Ireland23335 Posts
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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cz
United States3249 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On November 04 2009 08:49 Athos wrote: I don't think Vekzel will take it as an insult if I say that we have a slightly better chance against him than we would against Kasparov.After watching the match between Kasparov and the world I am feeling slightly pessimistic about our chances. That was an amazing game. Nc6-a5 I guess I'll vote for Nc6-a5 along with everyone else. | ||
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