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Zoler
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Cedstick
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M2K: "The best Sheiks are me, and everyone else is trash." #thingsm2ksays | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
but yeah M2K also says he's the only player who knows how to edgeguard, so you know, w/e I watched a lot of Taj/Axe streaming today; Taj is still godlike, JV4ing Axe's Pika with Mewtwo  | ||
Xeofreestyler
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TMG26
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Why does everyone uses fox instead of falco? (only few use falco) And the same with Marth-Roy. I remember that when i used to play, falco was just like fox, just a little heavier i think, but faster/stronger f i remember correctly. And that Roy was basically an overpowered version of Marth, because he had the same moveset, but was way way stronger. So why don't people use them? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On October 07 2014 03:08 [SXG]Phantom wrote: So i'm not into competitive smash, but i've seen some tournaments and I'm curious. Why does everyone uses fox instead of falco? (only few use falco) And the same with Marth-Roy. I remember that when i used to play, falco was just like fox, just a little heavier i think, but faster/stronger f i remember correctly. And that Roy was basically an overpowered version of Marth, because he had the same moveset, but was way way stronger. So why don't people use them? Main thing about Roy is the sweet spot on his sword is near the hilt and not the tip of the blade. In high level competitive play spacing is incredibly important and when Roy has to get up in someone's face to use his strongest attacks, he's likely to get punished for it. Marth can attempt a full range tipper and even if he misses he's in less danger than Roy and it's easier to get into position. Falco is actually considered the second best character in the game by most and is played plenty. Fox and Falco actually have pretty different playstyes. It would be hard to explain in full detail, but if you want a really amazing article about why Fox is so good you should read this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smash-bros/447415-why-does-everybody-play-fox | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On October 07 2014 03:08 [SXG]Phantom wrote: I remember that when i used to play, falco was just like fox, just a little heavier i think, but faster/stronger f i remember correctly. And that Roy was basically an overpowered version of Marth, because he had the same moveset, but was way way stronger. Roy has very few moves that are stronger than Marth's  Maybe his sweetspot upb is stronger, and I guess close hits are stronger... but his aerials, especially, are a lot worse; his fair's knockback, for example, is commonly compared to that of a wet noodle. Not sure why you think he's stronger. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On October 07 2014 03:08 [SXG]Phantom wrote: So i'm not into competitive smash, but i've seen some tournaments and I'm curious. Why does everyone uses fox instead of falco? (only few use falco) And the same with Marth-Roy. I remember that when i used to play, falco was just like fox, just a little heavier i think, but faster/stronger f i remember correctly. And that Roy was basically an overpowered version of Marth, because he had the same moveset, but was way way stronger. So why don't people use them? People used to use Falco quite a bit, and he's always occupied one of the top 4 slots in the tier list. His stock has gone down a bit with only a handful of top Falcos left for whatever reason, but he's still a great character. Roy is just awful, one of the worst characters in the game with pretty much no upside. - He falls faster. Easier to combo and worse recovery. - His strong hitboxes are at the hilt where Marth's are at the tip. However, Marth's weak hits (hilt) can combo into things, while Roy's weak hits (tip) don't do anything except put Roy into lag. - Marth has aerials that do things: juggle, combo, and kill. Roy's aerials, sweetspotted or not, all do jack shit. They don't combo until like 100% and don't kill until 300%. - He's slower. - He's not stronger either. Still love playing him though. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
On October 07 2014 05:40 Two_DoWn wrote: Does anyone know how to fix error code 001-0502? Im trying to connect through a campus WiFi and it isn't letting me. what game...? also, fastfaller means he can shffl aerials faster; that makes roy really good right | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
actually was able to solve it. had to browse the internet first apparently to warm up the internet connection. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
boy is this game bad edit for clarity: Basically, I pretty much agree with all of the criticisms directed at it so far. 1. Lack of movement options/slow - I'm not looking for wavedash again but any kind of new movement option would have been nice. Instead they actually removed options from dash, so even though tripping is gone now, dashing still sucks. Which is pretty obviously bad and shouldn't require any further explanation. 2. Landing lag - Maybe that new equipment thing found that reduces it will "fix" the problem, but come on, if you require stuff like that just to make the game playable there's a problem. Early autocancel aerials are the only way to go. 3. Shield OP/No approach - I won all my matches pretty much by having people hit my shield. There was no way to approach except on a hard read on a roll unless they were really really bad. There's not enough shieldstun and it recovers way too quickly. 4. "Combos" - Don't really exist. Super disappointing yet expected all at once | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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Zoler
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6777 Posts
On October 08 2014 00:25 Zoler wrote: Big house 4 was SO AMAZING WOW.. a bit bummed out over Armada not doing better but oh well, we saw Melee on a level we have pretty much never seen before! Dude when it ended I think I just stared at my screen for 10 minutes in disbelief. So much crazy moments. So many clutch victories that could've altered the entire course of the tournament! | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
beating gar, imyt, sheridan, and alan ain't a joke though | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
On October 08 2014 18:27 ]343[ wrote: agh I'm so salty that ycz choked vs tang at the foundry today beating gar, imyt, sheridan, and alan ain't a joke though I need to start watching more of the regular tournaments. Think I'm gonna try and stay loyal to my local scene and watch the P4K weeklies, though, even though some other stuff like the Foundry has more reknowned players. So, I mentioned the Big House article and staff being busy a few posts ago. What IS the current outlook on the TL Smash community? The team? Actual news articles? Does TL need more volunteers? | ||
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