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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-10 20:31:38
July 18 2007 11:51 GMT
#1
Revolutionary Magic
by Hot_Bid
TeamLiquid: Final Edits


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The five month Protoss Revolution began in March (image by zxk3).

It is a week before the GomTV MSL Final, and the fans were crowning a double champion. Savior had just dominated Nada in a Shinhan3 OSL Final that everyone, including Savior, had hyped and focused on quite a bit more. The Maestro, winner of two straight MSLs and in his fifth straight MSL Final, would walk over “his Protoss opponent.” The classification that was very telling. The Bisu/Ra semi was a mere formality, after all, they were just two Protoss, classified by their race and matchup, nameless except for their inevitable place next to the Zerg champion on the podium. No Protoss since Garimto had beaten a Zerg in a Starleague final. Reach and Ra had multiple chances and had always lost in unspectacular fashion.

It is a week before the GomTV MSL Final, and something was happening in the jungles of Thailand. We will never truly know why Bisu went on vacation a week before the Finals. There were two possible thought processes:
  • "I am a huge underdog in a really difficult series. I suppose I will try my best and whatever happens, I will be proud of how far I came."

  • "My name is Kim Taek Yong, commander of the Protoss, the prince who was promised, Dark Templar reborn. Leader of a disrespected race, victim of an imbalanced matchup, and I will have my vengeance in this MSL Final or the next."
Knowing what you know now, is there still any doubt as to what Bisu was thinking when he took that vacation?

Dominance has two requirements. Midas and recently Flash are good examples of players having a lot of one quality (mechanics) but very little of the other: the "magic" or "X-factor." It is that indescribable quality that you as the fan do not see but rather feel when watching a player who has it play.

Just as you can't dominate without it, you can't win with magic alone. Non-PvT Reach and to a lesser extent Garimto are examples of players whose great experience can take them far but not far enough. They do not currently have the technical skill to match the modern elite players. You simply need both qualities.

When mechanics and magic did converge, they produce players like 2004 Iloveoov, 2005 July, 4-badge Nada and Shinhan3 Savior. The convergence not only produced champions, but dominant ones.

A player’s confidence begins as a snowball rolling down a hill. It is a stream from a mountain peak or a baby tyrannosaur hatching from an egg. It is easily melted, diverted or even killed by the smallest of events at infancy. It needs to be nurtured and given time to grow. One bad experience at the wrong time in a player’s career and their magic will forever be lost, their confidence irreparably damaged. Dominance is unforgiving, and thus it is rare. To achieve it players must be not only be among the elite in technical skill but must walk a confidence minefield, vulnerable to circumstance and bad luck.

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The "magic" must be nurtured, preferably in Thailand.

Yellow is the poster child for the sad story of being so close, literally with his fingers around the magic but never able to hang on. I firmly believe that had Yellow won that first Coca-Cola OSL Final against Boxer back in 2001 their places in history would be reversed. We would be talking about Zerg and Terran completely differently today. The two most significant players in Brood War history came to their biggest crossroads at the most fragile point in their careers. We did not know it then, but player-wise it was easily the most influential, historical moment in ProGaming history. So much came down to one game on Neo Hall of Valhalla. It is what made Boxer "Boxer" and Yellow "Yellow." One player left that game with the magic, one player did not.

It is forged in deciding Game 3s and Game 5s. As ProGaming developed, as parity reigned and "great" win percentages hovered in the 60%’s, that special quality became more and more elusive. It was just impossible to be consistent, especially for Protoss. Looking through the list of champions, there has never been a dominant Protoss, one who had the magic. Until now.


The series that shocked the world.

Bisu is the most talented Protoss to come along in the history of professional Starcraft. His macro is the best. His micro is among the best. He has no weak matchups. He has one extremely strong matchup that is so far above every other Protoss in terms of quality and consistency that it’s laughable. Bisu has perfect, relentless scouting. Bisu successfully pushes the line between victory and defeat like no other player outside Savior.

But most of all, Bisu posseses the highest Protoss multitask ability. It is not even close. I have said this countless times but I will re-iterate. The "Beesuit Build" itself is not special. The build that beat Savior, the build that is basically a modified Protoss FE that slightly delays its storm and intermittently cuts probes for early DT/Corsair, is only good because Bisu does it. Other players have tried it and failed where Bisu succeeded. His Corsairs do not die. His DTs act like there is someone watching them at all times, finding holes that no other player can find. You could just drop the "-Build" part of that designation altogether and simply call it "Bisu," because it's all him.

But forget those last two paragraphs. What is special about Bisu is that in addition to his best-ever talent, he is 8-1 in elimination games in 2007, with the lone loss coming to Flash in the Daum OSL Ro8. It is part luck, part skill, part concentrated power of will, but somewhere along the line, Bisu got "it." He has the confidence now that he never did before, and with every successful do-or-die game win, his confidence and his magic grow.

Bisu is the Protoss chosen one. But worst of all for his opponents, he is finally starting to believe it.

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TeamLiquid is also starting to believe it.

You could see it in his comeback against Light in GomTV1, in his almost too good to be true 6-0 tear through GomTV1 semis and finals. You can see it in him calling Hwasin “insurance” in the Daum OSL group selection and then humiliating him with Scouts. Most of all, you can see it his clutch stasis against Stork in the decisive GomTV2 finals game 5.

Protoss dominance had arrived. Bisu, the Revolutionary, changed the game.

It is a week before the July-GoRush GomTV2 MSL quarterfinal. The winner would go on to face Bisu in the semifinals. The match was a mere formality, after all, they were just two Zerg.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-18 13:17:25
July 18 2007 13:14 GMT
#2
The time of the Protoss has come.

Awesome article hotbid. The graphic work is great. Bisu must've been posing the second time with a photoshop like that in mind.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
July 18 2007 13:48 GMT
#3
This is just awesome ^^

Nice work!!
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
July 18 2007 14:01 GMT
#4
protosssuuuuuuuuuuu

bisuuuuu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
July 18 2007 14:03 GMT
#5
many people speak of bisu in reverent tones, but i feel you have fully captured what makes him so special with this editorial. great read.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 18 2007 14:09 GMT
#6
nice article
reign of bisu!!
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
July 18 2007 14:35 GMT
#7
We can do this, right?

call 2007 The Year of Bisu?

Very curious to see how long it will go.

Great article
returns upon momentous occasions.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 18 2007 14:38 GMT
#8
i also noticed from that LiquiBet pic that Bisu dropped his "[shield]"

he's just "Bisu" now. If he wins another MSL we need to capitalize his name, so he appears as "BISU"
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 18 2007 14:44 GMT
#9
Bisu <3
Very nice read!
Karma is a bitch
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 18 2007 16:04 GMT
#10
Dont call him the NEW FORCE. Before he reaches what players like oov, boxer and especially nada achieved i agree he is the best.. but u know..
hatred outlives the hateful
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
July 18 2007 16:12 GMT
#11
this was a fantastic read
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8848 Posts
July 18 2007 17:34 GMT
#12
Great article =]
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
July 18 2007 17:39 GMT
#13
Great stuff Hot_bid, I always love your writings, they are very insightful and masterfully crafted.
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
July 18 2007 18:44 GMT
#14
Can i just say WOW for this reading? Well done, well written ... well ... just WELL!

zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
July 18 2007 20:37 GMT
#15
great article... great graphics ^^
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 18 2007 22:21 GMT
#16
On July 19 2007 05:37 zXk3 wrote:
great article... great graphics ^^

yeah, the TL:FE banner looks pretty awesome too
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
July 18 2007 22:35 GMT
#17
Bisu Fighting!
I'll call Nada.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 18 2007 23:34 GMT
#18
Do it..... every time.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
July 19 2007 00:08 GMT
#19
On July 19 2007 07:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2007 05:37 zXk3 wrote:
great article... great graphics ^^

yeah, the TL:FE banner looks pretty awesome too


You make it look better though.

Nice article. Very well written. Gosh, I love this FE crap ;D
Dahlia...
Profile Joined September 2005
United States409 Posts
July 19 2007 03:24 GMT
#20
What is Bisu/July's recs against one another?

I really think he wins 3-1/3-2 against Bisu if he got through GoRush.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 19 2007 03:37 GMT
#21
On July 19 2007 12:24 Dahlia... wrote:
What is Bisu/July's recs against one another?

I really think he wins 3-1/3-2 against Bisu if he got through GoRush.

as far as i know they haven't played each other in a televised game

i will have to disagree with you. July might have done better against Bisu than GoRush did due to stronger ZvP, but I still think Bisu would've won that series.
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OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
July 19 2007 07:55 GMT
#22
Nice article. It almost convinced me to root for Bisu more :O

It's probably just me, but it seems like Bisu doesn't do quite as well against super aggressive rush type builds (probably because they're super aggressive and rush/cheese...) He's lost vs Oversky (w/the famous 3hatch ling) and Flash (with the Bio Rush). Is this because of a flaw in his builds? Or lack of proper scouting? Of course, he's probably won plenty vs aggressive people, I just don't know about them...
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-19 08:05:09
July 19 2007 08:00 GMT
#23
all great players lose to all-ins sometime, it's just a fact of brood war

i really don't think it's some flaw in bisu's style

these guys practice 10 hours a day, they think of almost every possibility that can occur in a game. every time they lose to something the next time they are a lot less likely to lose to the same thing.

i know Bisu lost twice to a bio build from Flash. it happens, but i don't think it's some sort of big gaping hole in the way he plays.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
July 19 2007 08:29 GMT
#24
Bisu has been my favorite player for years i have a keen eye for spotting protoss talent i wont lie. Im going to show a post of mine from a year ago in the boxer balance suggestion thread.

TheGreatOne United States. October 10 2006 15:02. Posts 254 PM Profile Buddy Quote edit

No offense to boxer he is my favorite player of all time but this idea is pure outrageous. I honestly can say to myself I dont see much of a problem with pvz. This could just be that its my best mu and I find it easy actually. Just like the big zvt boom I forsee a big pvz boom. Before july/gorush/savior many zergs had a insanely hard time zvt and it could be considered imba but now it seems just fine with the outbreak of quick hive/3 hat muta/defiler usage. Bisu[shield] a fine example of what im saying he plays pvz the way it should be played. I think most tosses will catch on how to play pvz good look at kingdom hes starting to shine pvz. But anyways this idea is crazy you cant change such a standard concept just to fix a tiny balance problem in the first place. If anything would be changed it should just be DA raised with higher energy or lower 75 maelstorm. Shield upgrades should be changed to lower costs and I think the nexus should be strengthened since it dies so fast tvp and zvp. Also maybe reaver AI should be fixed could help a lot. I see no trouble with lurkers as most people see as the main problem its just for the longest time toss had trouble with lurkers since they were so used to mass hydra/hydra-ling things like that.Pvz is a tiny bit in favor for zerg but its just like for tvz and pvt nothing drastic. Also for the longest time maps were so bad for pvz and it screwed toss forever. Just my 2 cents

I have to brag about this somehow :D


Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 19 2007 08:53 GMT
#25
Maps definitely had something to do with it during some tournaments. But the effect of new-aged PvZ, not just Bisu's style specifically, is undenyable. I don't care what maps you come up with, the old Protoss Kings (Reach, Kingdom, Ra) could never do what new tosses (Bisu, free, Anytime, even Stork and others to a lesser extent) are doing now. It's just incredible. The matchup has been reinvented!

On July 19 2007 07:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2007 05:37 zXk3 wrote:
great article... great graphics ^^

yeah, the TL:FE banner looks pretty awesome too


It certainly does. Thank you so much for making it zXk3!
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koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 19 2007 09:34 GMT
#26
you all watch anytime come and rape this dt wannabe up the ass.... hahahaha we shall see this coming fall!!
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 19 2007 11:26 GMT
#27
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CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 19 2007 13:21 GMT
#28
great read, bisu's style is bittersweet, he gives me hope as a budding protoss player in an imba world, but i know i will never be able to pull of the bo's and multitasking he has....
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43187 Posts
July 19 2007 14:33 GMT
#29
Incredibly sexy!
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Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 19 2007 19:17 GMT
#30
So sweet write-up. Thank you.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
July 19 2007 20:34 GMT
#31
I thoroughly enjoyed reading this. Thanks Hot_Bid
Oh no
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
July 19 2007 22:19 GMT
#32
really nice article
bisu pure art
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-20 02:00:22
July 20 2007 01:59 GMT
#33
No wait. nevermind.

. Damn savior.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 20 2007 05:40 GMT
#34
On July 19 2007 17:29 TheGreatOne wrote:
Bisu has been my favorite player for years i have a keen eye for spotting protoss talent i wont lie. Im going to show a post of mine from a year ago in the boxer balance suggestion thread.

TheGreatOne United States. October 10 2006 15:02. Posts 254 PM Profile Buddy Quote edit

No offense to boxer he is my favorite player of all time but this idea is pure outrageous. I honestly can say to myself I dont see much of a problem with pvz. This could just be that its my best mu and I find it easy actually. Just like the big zvt boom I forsee a big pvz boom. Before july/gorush/savior many zergs had a insanely hard time zvt and it could be considered imba but now it seems just fine with the outbreak of quick hive/3 hat muta/defiler usage. Bisu[shield] a fine example of what im saying he plays pvz the way it should be played. I think most tosses will catch on how to play pvz good look at kingdom hes starting to shine pvz. But anyways this idea is crazy you cant change such a standard concept just to fix a tiny balance problem in the first place. If anything would be changed it should just be DA raised with higher energy or lower 75 maelstorm. Shield upgrades should be changed to lower costs and I think the nexus should be strengthened since it dies so fast tvp and zvp. Also maybe reaver AI should be fixed could help a lot. I see no trouble with lurkers as most people see as the main problem its just for the longest time toss had trouble with lurkers since they were so used to mass hydra/hydra-ling things like that.Pvz is a tiny bit in favor for zerg but its just like for tvz and pvt nothing drastic. Also for the longest time maps were so bad for pvz and it screwed toss forever. Just my 2 cents

I have to brag about this somehow :D



ra's pvz was pretty to look at tho
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 20 2007 08:24 GMT
#35
great article!
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 20 2007 10:33 GMT
#36
bisu i didn't like him at the beginning, but watching his smart playing and clean style, i'm starting to grow to him
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 22 2007 11:30 GMT
#37
We need like the Orcs chanting sound from the LotR movies while you read the article. That would be so awesome hahaha
^-^
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 22 2007 11:52 GMT
#38
apparently i've got the article writing curse

because i write one about savior and he auto-loses out of both leagues

and now i write one about Bisu and he immediately loses in proleague in his best matchup

i'm going to write about midas or fbh next then
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LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
July 22 2007 14:36 GMT
#39
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 22 2007 16:07 GMT
#40
On July 22 2007 23:36 LaZyScV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2007 20:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
It is part luck, part skill, part concentrated power of will


A fan of Fort Minor?

"Remember The Name"

This is ten percent luck,
Twenty percent skill,
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
Five percent pleasure,
Fifty percent pain,
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!


Anyway, nice write-up. ^^ Too bad he lost that ProLeague game; especially against a nobody (pretty much). o_O


Fort minor rocks! XD
Karma is a bitch
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
July 22 2007 23:00 GMT
#41
On July 22 2007 23:36 LaZyScV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2007 20:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
It is part luck, part skill, part concentrated power of will


A fan of Fort Minor?

"Remember The Name"

This is ten percent luck,
Twenty percent skill,
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
Five percent pleasure,
Fifty percent pain,
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!


Anyway, nice write-up. ^^ Too bad he lost that ProLeague game; especially against a nobody (pretty much). o_O

haha was an inside joke about that Fort Minor song being about ProGaming

part of the lyrics from that song:

"But fuck em, he knows the code
It's not about the salary
It's all about reality and making some noise
Making the story - making sure his clique stays up"

it sounds like "making the story, making sure his clicks stay up"
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 23 2007 00:07 GMT
#42
.... wow Hot_bid haha
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
July 23 2007 02:47 GMT
#43
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BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
July 24 2007 03:01 GMT
#44
Great article Hot_Bid.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
July 24 2007 22:14 GMT
#45
Am I the only Protoss player who doesnt like either Bisu or Stork that much? I love much and free though. Also love anytime when he doesnt slump and Jangbi when he shines. I dont know if it has to do with Bisu killing Savior in that MSL final... maybe I havnt gotten over it yet. For some reason I dont enjoy watching them play at all as much as many other Protoss
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 02:45:16
July 25 2007 02:44 GMT
#46
wow i didnt think there was a protoss in the world who didnt like bisu..why not love a pvz machine?
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 04:04:58
July 25 2007 04:04 GMT
#47
On July 25 2007 11:44 TheGreatOne wrote:
wow i didnt think there was a protoss in the world who didnt like bisu..why not love a pvz machine?

Must be because he killed my Savior If it was gorush in that final or july then maybe I would feel differently :S But I guess Bisu is ok. Ive realy enjoyed some of his games vs Midas etc. But I just like Much PvT and Free PvZ so much more :S
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 26 2007 11:17 GMT
#48
i also hate bisu.. im sorry. even though he is a hope to protoss.. it kinda bugs me people give him so much credit for his dt play. im sorry but anytime will always be #1 for use of DTs in all matchups but whatever. go toss right?
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
July 26 2007 17:01 GMT
#49
On July 26 2007 20:17 koryano321 wrote:
i also hate bisu.. im sorry. even though he is a hope to protoss.. it kinda bugs me people give him so much credit for his dt play. im sorry but anytime will always be #1 for use of DTs in all matchups but whatever. go toss right?

I agree ._. Anytimes final last year vs Nada was more impressive than anything Bisu has done even though Anytime lost :S Maybe its not as big an achievment but I was more impressed by his play atleast.
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-27 13:13:02
July 27 2007 13:12 GMT
#50
when i think of anytime... i think of his season before that where he went on to win the osl... that series was so insane.. loved it, remember anytime vs yellow? hahahaha
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
July 30 2007 09:23 GMT
#51
On July 19 2007 17:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
all great players lose to all-ins sometime, it's just a fact of brood war

i really don't think it's some flaw in bisu's style

these guys practice 10 hours a day, they think of almost every possibility that can occur in a game. every time they lose to something the next time they are a lot less likely to lose to the same thing.

i know Bisu lost twice to a bio build from Flash. it happens, but i don't think it's some sort of big gaping hole in the way he plays.


People should really keep in mind the openings(And this goes double for weird maps like Monty) in BW have a very poker-like quality to them. Bisu was kind of calling Flash's bluff in the game on Hitchiker.. In the BW players mind a situation like that is lose/lose. He either built the forge ahead of time and cannoned up only to see flash FE, or he took the chance. I dunno it makes sense to me at least; ]

Good article, but as we have seen with every dominant player it is only a matter of time before the aura is broken down and the intimidation other players feel lowers itself allowing them to play naturally. I am probably in the minority here but its only a matter of time to me before Bisu starts losing his ASS off PvZ. I keep anticipating it in every series vs a Zerg he has, hasnt happened yet but it really will eventually.
Broom
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1987 Posts
July 31 2007 20:20 GMT
#52
Great article.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
August 01 2007 07:49 GMT
#53
Great Article, the youtube video won't work for me, anyone else having that problem?
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
August 01 2007 07:51 GMT
#54
On July 23 2007 11:47 LaZyScV wrote:
Hahah.

How many people do you think actually got that, without having explained? Then again, inside joke.


I understood it because i used to play Bw with a friend like 2 yearsa ago who rewrote all the lyrics to that and turned it into something about BW. I wonder what happened to Jeff.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 13 2007 08:54 GMT
#55
Record:
All: 328-202 (61.89%)
NaDa.

Record:
All: 64-39 (62.14%)
Bisu.

I don't say Bisu is bad, because he is indeed very very good. But lets see how long this "reign" holds.. I mean, until now he is not even KeSpa #1.
By the way, Bisu or sAviOr will not go to WCG.. because 1 is eliminated before OO;


CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Waves
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia185 Posts
August 16 2007 03:59 GMT
#56
I really enjoyed this. Well written.
Abstruse
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States32 Posts
July 08 2009 19:05 GMT
#57
so this is the thread that started the "Bisu FIGHTING!" regime....interesting...
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 12 2009 02:43 GMT
#58
On July 09 2009 04:05 Abstruse wrote:
so this is the thread that started the "Bisu FIGHTING!" regime....interesting...

Why did you bump this with such a useless post?

Even though it is delayed, I never read this, and t'was a god read. Really a good remembrance to the first time we all experienced the magic of wearing a bee suit.
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
July 12 2009 14:52 GMT
#59
Actually, I am grateful this was bumped. I never read this (also beacuse I barely began following StarCraft progaming in mid-2008) and it is a very good article which rings true to this day (although Zerg are on the rampage again).
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
August 16 2009 11:22 GMT
#60
Bisu[Shield] is what got me into the Pro-Starcraft scene...Since then I've learned so much more about this game...The mechanics, the great players from the past, rivalries, It makes you appreciate how great this game really is. Kim Taek Yong Fighting continues!
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
January 10 2010 19:09 GMT
#61
NET United States. August 16 2009 20:22. Posts 15 PM Profile Quote
Bisu[Shield] is what got me into the Pro-Starcraft scene...Since then I've learned so much more about this game...The mechanics, the great players from the past, rivalries, It makes you appreciate how great this game really is. Kim Taek Yong Fighting continues!


Same as me!!!!!
I used to do random cause I had no real race, but after watching Bisu, I started going protoss~
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
January 10 2010 20:48 GMT
#62
....... Oh no you didn't -_-
AKA SuddenSalad
darnoconrad
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 18:10:36
December 04 2011 03:28 GMT
#63
Bumping because this article was from 2007 and it was right on! This is still why Bisu is the best and will remain to be with close runners up Flash and Jaedong. It is also interesting to see the predictions in the comments afterward.

Admin: Might want to move this to BW section.
Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be convinced by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone. - Ayn Rand
shilianan
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 08:44:22
December 27 2011 08:44 GMT
#64
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
gfdfadas
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
September 09 2013 07:31 GMT
#65
Bumping this article one last time.

Good Game Bisu~
You'll be forever loved and will always be the one who got me into esports. Thank you for the cheers, the tears, and all the rest~ It's been fun staying up all night, LR-ing, translating live interviews, and cheering against everyone you played~ Good Luck wherever you take your talents next~ <3
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
September 11 2013 16:33 GMT
#66
May bisu and his achievements always be remembered c:
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
March 03 2014 02:51 GMT
#67
03.03.2007.

Never forget.

One of my favorite TLFEs too.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
eXNewB
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada291 Posts
March 16 2014 10:45 GMT
#68
Great read! Bisu is my passion
THERES NO WAY HE CAN STOP THOSE HYDRAS!
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