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theMagus
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:08 theMagus wrote: are we really gonna see esf fangirls gloating in this thread everytime an esf player defeats a kespa player? yer funny lol. kespa fangirls do it too when their players win. | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: kespa fangirls do it too when their players win. hahaha. kespa fans don't even have a thread like this  | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:18 theMagus wrote: hahaha. kespa fans don't even have a thread like this HUH? This IS that thread... | ||
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SiskosGoatee
Albania1482 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:18 theMagus wrote: I want my face back in a natural state...hahaha. kespa fans don't even have a thread like this | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:18 theMagus wrote: hahaha. kespa fans don't even have a thread like this Ahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On July 12 2013 07:52 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Isn't the article pretty much about Kespa pros dominating the scene? I'd say that's rather accurate for what we're seeing today, barring a few exceptions. That being said this thread needs to die, and i'm not helping XD This thread was about the VERY TOP (e.g. top 8 from Flash to Leta) KeSPA pros dominating the SC2 scene once they switched. What we ended up seeing was a lot of the KeSPA pros doing well and even starting to dominate (e.g. Rain, InnoVation, etc.) but it wasn't the very best in Brood War becoming the very best in SC2. So I think the OP was 50% right and 50% wrong. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:18 theMagus wrote: hahaha. kespa fans don't even have a thread like this Haha, if there were a Quote of the Week thread, you're gonna be so own it. | ||
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SiskosGoatee
Albania1482 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:58 Jacmert wrote: No, the article is about the very worst of the BW pros supposedly still being better than the very top of the original SC2 pros. Maybe you should actually read it, the article asserts that even the worst BW pros could come to SC2 and dominate it.This thread was about the VERY TOP (e.g. top 8 from Flash to Leta) KeSPA pros dominating the SC2 scene once they switched. What we ended up seeing was a lot of the KeSPA pros doing well and even starting to dominate (e.g. Rain, InnoVation, etc.) but it wasn't the very best in Brood War becoming the very best in SC2. So I think the OP was 50% right and 50% wrong. | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 12 2013 11:17 stratmatt wrote: Yeah, this article is pretty much 100% wrong. Abstract out all the petty details and a general message emerges that seems true to some extent... Kespa pros are very strong in SC2, and continue to become the best players in SC2 the more time spent playing the game. Kespa pros are the hardest and smartest practicing players and unsurprisingly are starting to fill up the ranks of the best of the best in SC2. The stuff about non-Kespa pros being "a farce" and all that stuff intended to instigate and enrage may not be perfectly true but I think there's some rightness in it | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 12 2013 10:18 theMagus wrote: hahaha. kespa fans don't even have a thread like this yeah, they have this + at least 50 more LRs lol | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On July 12 2013 11:33 FallDownMarigold wrote: Abstract out all the petty details and a general message emerges that seems true to some extent... Kespa pros are very strong in SC2, and continue to become the best players in SC2 the more time spent playing the game. Kespa pros are the hardest and smartest practicing players and unsurprisingly are starting to fill up the ranks of the best of the best in SC2. The stuff about non-Kespa pros being "a farce" and all that stuff intended to instigate and enrage may not be perfectly true but I think there's some rightness in it Except that 'stuff' about sc2 competition being a 'farce' is in big bold letters at the beginning of article because it is the hypothesis that the rest of the article is trying to prove. It is wrong, and this article is completely wrong because of it. We are well over a year past kespa's switch and not only have jaedong and flash and bisu or whomever failed to dominate the scene, but the best kespa pro is innovation, someone who was not even considered top tier in broodwar. Basically what has turned out to be true is the exact opposite of what this article is trying disprove, and that is that starcraft 2 is a DIFFERENT game and different players, players who did not have much of a succesful brood war career, have dominated. Point. Blank. Period. To everyone trying to muddle the article's message and point out that it is still relevent, give it a rest already, and enjoy the new game. A different game. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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hangarninetysix
263 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 12 2013 11:46 hangarninetysix wrote: KeSPA showed just how horrible so many of those "top SC2 pros" really were. It's not that MKP has gotten worse. It's that he was always a nobody - he just won games because half the people he was playing were also nobodies. MKP stagnated in skill while everyone else around him got better, he was still doing things like not making a wall or bunker at his third just recently. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 12 2013 11:43 stratmatt wrote: Except that 'stuff' about sc2 competition being a 'farce' is in big bold letters at the beginning of article because it is the hypothesis that the rest of the article is trying to prove. It is wrong, and this article is completely wrong because of it. We are well over a year past kespa's switch and not only have jaedong and flash and bisu or whomever failed to dominate the scene, but the best kespa pro is innovation, someone who was not even considered top tier in broodwar. Basically what has turned out to be true is the exact opposite of what this article is trying disprove, and that is that starcraft 2 is a DIFFERENT game and different players, players who did not have much of a succesful brood war career, have dominated. Point. Blank. Period. To everyone trying to muddle the article's message and point out that it is still relevent, give it a rest already, and enjoy the new game. A different game. Oh no worries, I do enjoy the new game in which Kespa pros are becoming the dominant force | ||
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figq
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