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Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
January 24 2010 05:35 GMT
#201
Pretty much agree with Plexa. Flash said that his gameplan against Kwanro, besides bunker rushing of course, was to just freestyle and play how he was most comfortable. It was evident that Flash was doing the same against Jaedong, but Jaedong brought some unique builds to capitalize on that unmoving target and to compensate for the maps.

Despite build order disadvantages, Flash was still putting up strong resistance based solely on his raw TvZ skill. The series, pre-fiasco, was shaping up to be a true testament to, and battle between, Jaedong's characteristically great Bo5 preparation and Flash's steadfast but supreme TvZ. Indeed, Jaedong was edging Flash out, and I feel that Flash should have brought just a little bit more from home. Perhaps his schedule really was too hectic to do so, I'm not sure. Alas.

At any rate, I feel that neither the last game nor the score were truly representative. There's always going to be a question mark on it. Also, worst series ever to watch live. My eyeballs themselves are literally hurting. I'm not sure if that's normal or not, but I hope it stops soon.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 27 2010 02:05 GMT
#202
Well. T always has it easier vs Z by design. So for two players with insane skill levels the imbalance gets really hard to overcome. Z better prepare the hell out or he's not going to win a game at that level unless the map is tilted in Z's favor.
WWJDD??
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 27 2010 02:09 GMT
#203
On January 14 2010 01:16 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 03:27 WWJDD wrote:
TvT is such a skill-based matchup as opposed to ZvZ which is more luck based


Nonsense Statement.Clearly u dont know what ur talking about. Think about it once again, but first watch this Game: Shinhan Winners League ZerO vs Jaedong 2009-02-03 @ Sin Chupung-Ryeong.




How many 12 hatches did Jaedong win vs 9 pool? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
WWJDD??
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 02 2010 02:13 GMT
#204
I'm going to bump this after being linked back to it in this month's Power Ranking.
Because it's a good read, and because some people need to quit with the personal attacks against the writer.

Also because I cannot believe I never commented on this.
One day I want to be able to write like you, Plexa.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
BigDatez
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada434 Posts
July 26 2010 05:55 GMT
#205
Very a-mazing read =D
Video games > sex (Proven fact)
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
July 29 2010 01:40 GMT
#206
i remember watching this game live haha. first ever scbw game i've ever watched live.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
slowmanrunning
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada285 Posts
July 31 2010 11:47 GMT
#207
Reading this made me feel shameful that I have barely watched NaDa, yet boxer is probably my 3rd most watched player. (I play zerg, so 1st is jaedong, 2nd is savior)

while savior was the poineer, I feel jaedong has done far more for zerg.
I aim to become a hydralisk and then stop posting, cause I don't wanna be a queen...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10342 Posts
August 02 2010 09:28 GMT
#208
Although I hate JD, I must say he's the best as of now, and not even Flash can knock him off... unless of course someone thats Just absolutely terrible like me (E) beats him in a BO7 and they both play straight up. But, after all those wins, I still can't say he will be a bonjwa. He's won those titles, but they have some breaks between them. Remember when Flash 2-0ed him in the KA OSL ro8? like when BaBy played outstanding sc? Jaedong DOES have a weakness, one that when people find out, he covers it up so quickly. but then that means players have to throw axes and hammers Into that weak point as soon as it is found. that will be extremely unlikely. JD will get more titles than NaDa, but will not be bonjwa. He is mortal, and will die someday... someday...
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Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
December 10 2011 19:32 GMT
#209
Hopefully TL doesn't get mad because of bumping this, but I feel that new generations must read this piece of art. The text is so well written and highlights why Jaedong is the best zerg in history.

He shall awaken the monster inside him once again. Jaedong Fighting!
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 11 2011 09:00 GMT
#210
On December 11 2011 04:32 Art.FeeL wrote:
Hopefully TL doesn't get mad because of bumping this, but I feel that new generations must read this piece of art. The text is so well written and highlights why Jaedong is the best zerg in history.

He shall awaken the monster inside him once again. Jaedong Fighting!


I agree with you wholeheartedly. <3 my JD
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
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