On August 11 2011 12:11 LuckyFool wrote:
This raises a serious question about how TL handles featured streamers in general. What TL staff members have said and from what I have understood over the past few months is the following:

there are no fixed criteria to becoming a featured streamer on TL. The process is arbitrarily decided upon by a few select staffers without having any true fixed criteria but they weigh following things such as accomplishments in sc2, name recognition, relative skill level, stream popularity, stream quality, viewer feedback, community feedback, stream content and more. (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this)

Every featured stream will or should be meeting at least 80-90% of those criteria.

Because of this you see plenty of grandmaster players nowhere near being featured and other players possibly lesser skilled but doing quite entertaining things or meeting many other requirements. One example I could use would be MrBitter and his hosting of the 12 weeks with the pros. His stream was featured shortly after this began because it was freaking amazing. He was a midmasters player at the time with 0 accomplishments in sc2.

Seeing a reason like this given as to why a stream is being unfeatured implies you need a number of "accomplishments" in SC2 to be a featured streamer period.

If that is the case what on earth are streamers like all the broodwar streams being featured? GordonHayward? Protech- (doesn't even really play 1v1, plays top level 2v2 and team stuff, very entertaining stream though and epic music) these are just a few featured streams that come to mind there are plenty more that could be made a case they have little to no actual accomplishments in sc2.

the lack of consistency here is astounding. Either have criteria for featured streams or don't, screwing over people like megumi who do quite a bit for the community and have seemingly earned a spot on featured stream only to get shafted by "Lack of accomplishments in sc2" is wrong.

Sure maybe it was a mistake featuring her in the first place...but I think the reason as to why this stream was unfeatured is more of an issue than the actual unfeaturing.

I don't see your point.
CombatEX is banned from TL and still gets almost 3k viewers every time he streams. Why? Because it's hilarious and entertaining as fuck.

If her stream was really THAT good then she should be able to get viewers in spite of not being featured.

My point isn't about losing viewer numbers. It's about featured stream polices in general.

megumi will probably continue to stream and continue to have plenty of viewers. Good streams will and should naturally get viewers. Her stream got quite popular over a pretty short period of time. Sure she was probably aided by being featured rather questionably early on, but for the past few months I think numbers and content wise the stream was pretty well solidified in its place.

There are plenty of popular streamers like combatex who are banned from TL or not featured. My focus with that post was not so much on needing to be featured for success, it was more focused on what constitutes a featured streamer period.

Edmiester

United States3 Posts

August 11 2011 03:45 GMT

#103

Megumixbear is nothing but a great addition to the community of SC2 and e-sports. Even if she were unfeatured, i'm sure many of us appreciate what she does. Still, it would be nice to have her featured again. Sides, who gets a tweet from the official Lakers twitter account?

rarelyGG

United States19 Posts

August 11 2011 03:45 GMT

#104

better than most players and works mon-fri, interacts and is friendly with stream, hosts tournaments. seriously deserves to be featured. I love watching korean progamers stream but megumix contributes more to the community than them. I guess run should be removed because he has no achievements (nothing against him I like him) just saying that removing her because of lack of achievements is really stupid.

Ghier

99 Posts

August 11 2011 03:58 GMT

#105

Completely random.... Megumi is one of the best female sc2 players in the world and a great personality. I would like to see these required "achievements" to be featured. Its not possible that she just all of a sudden doesnt qualify anymore.

hellokittySC2

United States395 Posts

August 11 2011 04:02 GMT

#106

<3 i dont post on TL threads but this will be an exception ^.^

~hellokitty

askTeivospy

1525 Posts

August 11 2011 04:06 GMT

#107

If that is the case what on earth are streamers like all the broodwar streams being featured? GordonHayward? Protech- (doesn't even really play 1v1, plays top level 2v2 and team stuff, very entertaining stream though and epic music) these are just a few featured streams that come to mind there are plenty more that could be made a case they have little to no actual accomplishments in sc2.

ladder rating aside protech played in ptsl with power (4th and easily could have been higher, very respectable showing considering everyone else were pro level 1v1'rs). He'll be playing in the second season of PTSL, but if any more team tournaments pop up he'll obviously get into those as well

Area51GamingSC2

United States110 Posts

August 11 2011 04:11 GMT

#108

Sign me up....also her being unfeatured is dumb..she does soo much for the community.. she interacts with her viewers and holds tournaments frequently...im sad to see this....

xVoiid

Canada199 Posts

August 11 2011 04:13 GMT

#109

Sign me up.

HydroOwl

United States57 Posts

August 11 2011 04:24 GMT

#110

I don't really get why she was unfeatured, considering she gets more views than a lot of featured streamers and some of the featured players don't really play the game (2v2 only, or LoL). Hopefully she gets put back, but for now just check facebook/twitter to see if she's streaming.

Gallet

United States4 Posts

August 11 2011 04:48 GMT

#111

Sign me to the petition to get Megumixbear back as a featured streamer. She hosts several tournaments (bear cups) and always does the casting and hosting of the tournament in a very professional manner. She also plays a master level terran while helping people get a better understanding of the game. I really hope this gets over turned because she is a great member of TL, and the sc2 community and that should be enough merit to keep her around.

Canucklehead

Canada5074 Posts

August 11 2011 04:58 GMT

#112

What this makes no sense! Seems pretty arbitrary to unfeature her now. Half the featured streamers are people no one cares about anyways. Not cool TL! Not cool!!

enCore-

98 Posts

August 11 2011 05:01 GMT

#113

There are plenty of streamers that are featured without notable accomplishments in Starcraft 2, so this is no reason for unfeaturing her. I feel like they take other factors into account with other streamers that they are neglecting with her?!

Megumi has constantly high viewer counts, sometimes even higher than some pro players. So obviously people want to watch her. People in high demand like her definitely should be featured for obvious reasons. Moreover she contributed a great deal to the community by hosting her bearcups, giving out prize money/lessons, and this is how she gets paid back?!

I do not agree with TLs decision and ask them to reconsider.

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

August 11 2011 05:03 GMT

#114

I tend to agree with a lot of what's been said. I can't comment too much on the quality of the stream as I'm not a frequent viewer. However, there seems to be some inconsistency if her stream was featured in spite of having no accomplishments and relatively low skill compared to most featured streamers, and then removed for those same reasons which were overlooked when the featuring took place. I'm pretty sure she has never claimed herself to be one of the best in the world, so if she was featured for her viewer count and contributions to the community, why not keep her featured?

Louuster

Canada2869 Posts

August 11 2011 06:07 GMT

#115

Posting to show my support to Megumi! Probably the nicest streamer on TL and by no means a bad player. I wonder what suddenly caused the change to take the decision to unfeature her now. I will keep watching, Tricia fighting!!

Licmyobelisk

Philippines3682 Posts

August 11 2011 06:37 GMT

#116

OH come on mods, please do not un-feature here

Skamtet

Canada634 Posts

August 11 2011 06:39 GMT

#117

On August 11 2011 12:24 Carwash wrote:
Well if they're gonna go by "accomplishments", I guess destiny and drewbie (along with many many others) should be un-featured as well.

Destiny, drewbie, and all the other SC streams have all good achievements and are much better than megumixbear.

wooscums

United States13 Posts

August 11 2011 06:41 GMT

#118

Megumixbear is a caring, honest, and skilled gamer that cares and interacts with her viewers in a way that very few others do. I don't really understand why this stream was unfeatured so abruptly and I hope TL repeals their decision and apologies for their extremely vague and impolite message toward megumi. No "thanks" or "sorry" whatsoever. I don't usually post at all but this is something that I felt I needed to say.

Carwash

United States60 Posts

August 11 2011 06:43 GMT

#119

On August 11 2011 15:39 Skamtet wrote:

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Destiny, drewbie, and all the other SC streams have all good achievements and are much better than megumixbear.

Lol, they're much better, but they haven't won anything at all. They've literally accomplished nothing.