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You guys missed my post (it's on fanclub page 548):
On September 18 2012 21:24 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 21:16 stephenrau wrote:
Hmm I was hoping for it but I think there's little chance Stephano competes in GSL season 5. Season 4 going on right now ends Oct 20 and season 5 ends at the end of November to line up with IPL 5 weekend in Las Vegas. So I assume GSL 5 starts at the end of Oct. However he has to attend ESWC Oct 31 to Nov 4th. Then there's MLG Fall Championship sometime in November. And then WCS world champs!! China in Nov 17. I also assume he'll qualify for the big Dreamhack which is the weekend right before IPL - Nov 22.-25th. Then IPL Nov 29th. So freaking busy! GSL on top of that would be brutal. You make some good points. There is also NASL 4 that will be big if Stephano makes it into the Finals again, which is fairly likely. There is a lot of major tournaments still to come for Stephano in 2012. That's a good thing though, both for him personally and for us fans. I am sure he will go to GSL next year.
Basically this GSL season 4 ends in October and season 5 is super compressed into a month it seems. So a month long GSL (instead of the usual 2 months) is perfect for Stephano but there are other conflicts.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments
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Will Stephano attend IPL 5 only for the foreigners vs koreans show ? No spot for him in the ipl tournament ?
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omg how am i not in this already?
such a boss, sign me up!
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He gets an automatic seed for being part of the World team in the GSL World Championship match along with Naniwa.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_5
IPL really saved their asses b/c a couple of months back we noticed that they really screwed up their qualifiers by running them at the same time as a bunch of tourneys like NASL and MLG. So it was like 40 players with a ton of no names (actually look at the list now it still is) and no Stephano. The only thing is IPL 5 has been so delayed that they can add more qualifiers b/c otherwise it would have been a disaster tourney. I'd be annoyed if I was one of the earlier qualifiers.
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Oh it wasn't clear to me that he got a seed for both ! Thx and btw haypro is in the list :p
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Yeah look at the post at the top of this page.. if all goes right he's got in the span of one month:
ESWC, MLG, WCS Shanghai, Dreamhack, and IPL !!!!
If only he could play GSL now he could do so well, Kespa next year doesn't help his chances.
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i think he could combine WCS and GSL pretty easily, and most of the time gom is really convenient for this kind of matter.
But I really dont time or motivation to properly check his schedule :p but it seems that skipping MLG or DH could be eassily done
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On September 21 2012 04:18 RaelSan wrote:
i think he could combine WCS and GSL pretty easily, and most of the time gom is really convenient for this kind of matter.
But I really dont time or motivation to properly check his schedule :p but it seems that skipping MLG or DH could be eassily done
I think GSL would be ready to do a lot to get Stephano to play in GSL, they know that a lot of people would be excited to see him on the the GSL stage.
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On September 21 2012 00:27 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 22:33 Meggiroth wrote:
I guess it would have been to much. GSL World Championship+Code S finals+ IPL at the same time ^^ A subtle troll how cute
Wha?
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On September 21 2012 06:54 Meggiroth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2012 00:27 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 20 2012 22:33 Meggiroth wrote:
I guess it would have been to much. GSL World Championship+Code S finals+ IPL at the same time ^^ A subtle troll how cute Wha?
There are VERY touchy people in this world. It's almost better to lurk.
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On September 21 2012 04:07 stephenrau wrote:
Yeah look at the post at the top of this page.. if all goes right he's got in the span of one month:
ESWC, MLG, WCS Shanghai, Dreamhack, and IPL !!!!
If only he could play GSL now he could do so well, Kespa next year doesn't help his chances.
I am not too worried about KESPA, if Stephano goes he will be seeded into Code S and all his opponents are likely to be strong anyway. The biggest question mark for me is the HOTS expansion. At some point GSL will switch over to that and it is hard to forecast what effect the new expansion will have on Stephano and his effectiveness.
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True the transition to HotS is the biggest question mark for Stephano's long term success as he himself pointed out.
But every season of GSL is getting tougher since they changed the format to reward current performance. Stephano generally rises to the level of the competition but I feel he might be approaching the peak of his domination unless he trains continuously in Korea. Or he truly is the self-proclaimed "zerg genius" (that was funny during WCS, I wonder when and who he said that to?)
Just some interesting notes as an avid GSL/Korea fan, I have a strong feeling Nestea won't be in Code S for the first time ever next season. Even with his decline, that's how tough it's getting. MC got knocked out ro32, jjakji is still code A, Hyun might be code A, Creator and Alive are code A.
As for Kespa, Rain is already DOMINANT (better than taeja dominance, he just has to figure out PvP). Roro and Flash are almost certainly high code S level (like ro16+) or will be next season. Plus there's a couple others like Effort and the other Hero (CJ Entus).
[ Some Rain fanboyism, Byun/Ghostking was the best looking player last season in Code S along with Symbol, before choking to Seed in the semifinals 3-2 (also just like Symbol the round before). And Rain took out Byun in the ro32 4-0 2 weeks ago or so. I thought Byun just played poorly but then Rain destroyed Taeja 2-0 with ridiculous defense and harass. After the match, Taeja actually said that if he played Rain again he'd still lose! ]
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HOTS will only benefit Stephano assuming he doesn't lose interest in SCII. There are more spell casters and more things to do. In the limited games HOTS games he streamed he looked preposterously good given that he had just started playing the game. Although it remains to be seen, because of the way Swarm Hosts function, players to get their full use out of the unit may have to effectively micro more than one battle at a time -- sieging with their swarm hosts while attacking elsewhere. From Stephano's POV it just felt like more was going on than in WOL. Stephano's late game army control is the best of any zerg. He's, overall, the most cost efficient, gets the best engagements and falls apart the least of any zerg at present. With more stuff to micro in HOTS late game engagements are only going to get trickier; i just don't see how this isn't a good thing for him.
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IMO it is way to early to talk about rain's dominance, even if he beat Taeja once, it doesn't mean he has cut his head off and absorbed all his vital energy except if they are highlanders, which would explain their skill level !
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On September 21 2012 10:07 The_Darkness wrote:
HOTS will only benefit Stephano assuming he doesn't lose interest in SCII. There are more spell casters and more things to do. In the limited games HOTS games he streamed he looked preposterously good given that he had just started playing the game. Although it remains to be seen, because of the way Swarm Hosts function, players to get their full use out of the unit may have to effectively micro more than one battle at a time -- sieging with their swarm hosts while attacking elsewhere. From Stephano's POV it just felt like more was going on than in WOL. Stephano's late game army control is the best of any zerg. He's, overall, the most cost efficient, gets the best engagements and falls apart the least of any zerg at present. With more stuff to micro in HOTS late game engagements are only going to get trickier; i just don't see how this isn't a good thing for him.
The thing about HOTS is that the meta game is evolving fast. Patches will come quickly too, so unit balances will be changing rapidly. Also the next few months will have the HOTS Beta running alongside WoL. Different players will invest differing amounts of practice into HOTS. Stephano has lots of WoL tournaments to focus on over the next couple of months, however there will be pro-gamers who have less busy schedules who can spend lots more time gaining expertise at HOTS. So I think there is a lot of uncertainty as a consequence of the new expansion. This uncertainty will affect all SC2 pro-gamers but there is a strong likelihood that some pro-gamers will drop off and a new pecking order will emerge. There are definitely new challenges posed by the expansion.
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On September 21 2012 20:59 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2012 10:07 The_Darkness wrote:
HOTS will only benefit Stephano assuming he doesn't lose interest in SCII. There are more spell casters and more things to do. In the limited games HOTS games he streamed he looked preposterously good given that he had just started playing the game. Although it remains to be seen, because of the way Swarm Hosts function, players to get their full use out of the unit may have to effectively micro more than one battle at a time -- sieging with their swarm hosts while attacking elsewhere. From Stephano's POV it just felt like more was going on than in WOL. Stephano's late game army control is the best of any zerg. He's, overall, the most cost efficient, gets the best engagements and falls apart the least of any zerg at present. With more stuff to micro in HOTS late game engagements are only going to get trickier; i just don't see how this isn't a good thing for him. The thing about HOTS is that the meta game is evolving fast. Patches will come quickly too, so unit balances will be changing rapidly. Also the next few months will have the HOTS Beta running alongside WoL. Different players will invest differing amounts of practice into HOTS. Stephano has lots of WoL tournaments to focus on over the next couple of months, however there will be pro-gamers who have less busy schedules who can spend lots more time gaining expertise at HOTS. So I think there is a lot of uncertainty as a consequence of the new expansion. This uncertainty will affect all SC2 pro-gamers but there is a strong likelihood that some pro-gamers will drop off and a new pecking order will emerge. There are definitely new challenges posed by the expansion.
I think all the good players will focus on WOL until the end. Mediocre players will try to get an edge by practicing HotS hardcore, but I assume they'll only narrow the gap. Stephano seems to be someone who can quickly adapt to new challenges, same as other top pros. I wouldn't be too worried.
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People think that all the major tournaments will just jump right into Hots after release. There will be quite a few months until hots is proven to be balanced enough for competitions giving players plenty of time to switch over.
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On September 21 2012 21:52 Meggiroth wrote:
People think that all the major tournaments will just jump right into Hots after release. There will be quite a few months until hots is proven to be balanced enough for competitions giving players plenty of time to switch over.
No way. Tournaments will switch the moment it's released/GSL and similar tournaments when the season is over. Balance can only be achieved if people are actively playing it in a competitive environment. If tournaments don't switch, the game will be somewhat balanced much later than it could be.
Also, once it's released, the big audience will want to watch the newest stuff. HotS tournaments will get a bigger viewership than WoL events and every organizer will jump on the bandwagon to get the numbers.
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EGStephano @EGStephanoRC
On my way to valencia. The last time i played sc2 was last sunday against some vortix guy. Didnt open sc2 since then! Wish good luck
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