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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 30 2013 16:22 GMT
#8181
On April 30 2013 06:08 Thor.Rush wrote:
Has a protoss ever won a tournament without cheese? Lol...think about it.

Has any player ever won a tournament without cheesing a game?
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alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
April 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#8182
Personally, I love cheese plays. Obviously not constant cheese play. But in high stakes like this one it makes the game more exciting and tense. Its up to the attacking player/strategy that it works, and up to the defending player that it doesnt. It requieres big balls, big ass brain to play such mind games, and great skills to be able to pull it against one of the best players. Usually it comes down to the last unit and requires precise micro.
Just to put it into perspective: MVP used multiple cheeses to take out naniwa at GSL. And Leenock aswell at MLG Providence.
Better example? GSL Finals? Game 7? MVP vs Squirtle? I hated it because I was rooting for Squirtle, but the game was so tense and close and back n forth and exciting and on its own way an epic ending to such series. And unfortunately it was Squirtle's mistake which made him loose the game. And thats that.
Cheese are cool.
Die Trying
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 30 2013 17:16 GMT
#8183
On May 01 2013 01:22 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 06:08 Thor.Rush wrote:
Has a protoss ever won a tournament without cheese? Lol...think about it.

Has any player ever won a tournament without cheesing a game?

Yes there are! Thorzain, Taeja, Nestea etc
| SaSe | Naniwa |Stephano | LucifroN | Mvp | MarineKing | ByuN | Polt | MC | Parting |
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
April 30 2013 17:25 GMT
#8184
On May 01 2013 02:16 Thor.Rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 01:22 Zealos wrote:
On April 30 2013 06:08 Thor.Rush wrote:
Has a protoss ever won a tournament without cheese? Lol...think about it.

Has any player ever won a tournament without cheesing a game?

Yes there are! Thorzain, Taeja, Nestea etc

The point is: cheese is part of the game and the one Naniwa used agaisnt Jaedong was pretty clever.
It's good to be back
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 30 2013 17:39 GMT
#8185
Totally agree. Every win for Naniwa was well-deserved. Any other "cheesey" foreigners would have been crushed anyway.
| SaSe | Naniwa |Stephano | LucifroN | Mvp | MarineKing | ByuN | Polt | MC | Parting |
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
April 30 2013 17:56 GMT
#8186
Jaedongs build is on the same level of cheese

3 hatch into gas into pool?

U play greedy you get punished
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 18:33:01
April 30 2013 18:32 GMT
#8187
On May 01 2013 02:25 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 02:16 Thor.Rush wrote:
On May 01 2013 01:22 Zealos wrote:
On April 30 2013 06:08 Thor.Rush wrote:
Has a protoss ever won a tournament without cheese? Lol...think about it.

Has any player ever won a tournament without cheesing a game?

Yes there are! Thorzain, Taeja, Nestea etc

The point is: cheese is part of the game and the one Naniwa used agaisnt Jaedong was pretty clever.


Considering it was a cheese vs. cheese the entire point by Thor.Rush is moot. Jaedong used an econ cheese opening to blindly counter Nani's style, as he did on the previous game. That game was not decided by cheese but by mind games. Plastic League players will never understand this, and like IdrA, always rage against people who actually vary their play.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 30 2013 18:35 GMT
#8188
On May 01 2013 02:16 Thor.Rush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 01:22 Zealos wrote:
On April 30 2013 06:08 Thor.Rush wrote:
Has a protoss ever won a tournament without cheese? Lol...think about it.

Has any player ever won a tournament without cheesing a game?

Yes there are! Thorzain, Taeja, Nestea etc

I think they would have cheesed at least one of their games during the entire tourney. Didn't Nestea use the Spine rush in a game ages ago? And used the 10 Pool pull drones versus hatch first?
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
Frazzy
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden10 Posts
May 02 2013 02:24 GMT
#8189
Fan video !




like it?
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
May 02 2013 07:33 GMT
#8190
On May 02 2013 11:24 Frazzy wrote:
Fan video !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msZVnBWwmFE&list=HL1367453114&feature=mh_lolz


like it?


I really liked it. You should get help with the audio editing because levels are really off at times. Also the ending was kinda anti-climatic. But otherwise a really good movie!
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 02 2013 16:15 GMT
#8191
Thanks for the video.
Good luck in the WCS!
It's good to be back
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
May 02 2013 16:37 GMT
#8192
NaNiwa playing awesomely in WCS EU at the moment, nerdgasms all over the place.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
Sackings
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada457 Posts
May 02 2013 17:08 GMT
#8193
^ awesome video, you should ask the fanclub creator if u can put on on the front page ^^
naniwa fighting!!!
Skwirrel
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany24 Posts
May 02 2013 17:09 GMT
#8194
nice video and Nani is playing good at WCS. The games vs shuttle seemed to look to easy for him^^
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 17:30:27
May 02 2013 17:12 GMT
#8195
On May 03 2013 02:09 Skwirrel wrote:
nice video and Nani is playing good at WCS. The games vs shuttle seemed to look to easy for him^^

But at the same time, he didn't seem very confident in PvT... I hope he plas TLO next.
It's good to be back
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
May 02 2013 17:13 GMT
#8196
I missed the games vs Shuttle, would someone mind giving me a quick recap?
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 02 2013 17:57 GMT
#8197
GOOGOGOGOGOGOO NANIWA

You beat TLO in dreamhack


Now beat him here!
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
May 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#8198
Naniwa is such a great player.
But why does he rarely write "gg" when he lefts a game?
Is it TLOs fault that swarm hosts exist?
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
Neantix
Profile Joined September 2011
France139 Posts
May 02 2013 18:15 GMT
#8199
NaNiwa doesn't GG player he think's that are inferior to him.
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 18:17:00
May 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#8200
But why. TLO just said on skype that
he feels that "Naniwa is the better player right now".
I know that TLO is way over good mannered but TLO
played just better in the series so why couldn`t Naniwa
just tolerate that?

I would like to cheer for Nani in the future just because
he is one of the best foreigners right now...
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
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