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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
September 19 2011 09:42 GMT
#3781
What an uninspired display by MC today.
That wasn't the MC we know - the confident, bold player that dictates the game.
I hope he is back to his usual self soon.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
September 19 2011 09:45 GMT
#3782
how about if mc played standard becose he hide his secret strats for mlg to get straight in code S ? rly smart !
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
September 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#3783
On September 19 2011 16:37 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 16:24 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 19 2011 16:16 Jinivus wrote:
What a fucking joke. What's even the point of watching anymore, its pure depression. I was so excited for MLG but I already know the top 6 so whats even the point. Most accomplished player in SC2 can't beat a 35 percent winrate code A zerg.



??

MVP and Nestea won gsl 3 times
Mc.....2

The last game wasen't even imbalacne. it was MC playing really shitty. :/ Hopefully he can bounce back and rape some noobs


Actually MC played the last game completely fine, he missed a couple forcefields, lost his sentries to infestors at a point that it didn't matter, and made a bad blink but at that point he was in no position to win on that map. He would never have been able to move out and securing a third would have been completely impossible. He held off the two base infestor push perfectly and killed a ton of infestors but it still didn't matter because there was no way he was securing a third or putting on pressure without getting into a base race he's destined to lose against muta/ling/infestor.

Often when you see a protoss player "play really shitty" it's because protoss mistakes are more glaringly obvious because of the race design. How many times have you seen zerg lose 5 roaches to a bad rally point early game when it changes nothing? Compare that to a protoss losing 3 stalkers for no reason early game. Compare having your army caught out of position as terran to being caught out of position as protoss. How many times have you seen infestors randomly being suicided but when a protoss loses some templar casters act like it's the mistake of the century, etc.

Same sort of mistakes, same unfortunate decision making, same misclicks, more punishment. It's not changing until HotS.



Mc played solid today. It was not his fault, so plz ppl stop saying he did not practice hard or sth. Dual sight is not a map toss can win against a solid zerg. The only flaw I saw in those games was there were a couple of time ling-run by in game2 which I believed Mc should be able to stop but somehow he did not. But I doubt if he played perfect in that game, then if the result would be different.

BTW, can someone plz explain to me what is HotS? I heard this a lot but did not know what it is.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
September 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#3784
On September 19 2011 16:59 Spender wrote:
Code A spoilers.
+ Show Spoiler +
Last game was pretty much the definition of playing protoss. You don't get to make mistakes buddy, one bad blink and you're out.
Seems like MC was trying to play really reactionary. He held the infestor/ling push perfectly. Low sentry count seems to be a good idea against this kind of play since you're bound to loose them anyway. If it was a different map, with third easier to secure for protoss he might have won that, but once the mutas poped there was no way he could have build up a good enough composition off of 2base without being completely all in.
gg MC, good luck in the future.



Sad, But I have to agree.
anyways, I am a fan of Mc now and in the future. Mc fighting!!
EnderSword
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada669 Posts
September 19 2011 09:51 GMT
#3785
HotS = Heart of the Swarm, the SC2 Expansion.

I mourn for MC, it's an absolute slaughter out there at the moment for Protoss.

He will be at MLG, and could potentially just win his way directly back in there.

But good lord, this has just been a Protoss slaughter, I don't view this as a commentary on MC's skill level. I'm optimistic going forward that this can be corrected.
Bronze/Silver/Gold level Guides - www.youtube.com/user/EnderSword
hummingbird23
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway359 Posts
September 19 2011 10:13 GMT
#3786
MC played well and continues to play well. This guy has shown dedication, innovation and fighting spirit. Micro, macro and the willingness to use every tool he can find, make, borrow or steal. He deserves better, so much better...
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 10:19:54
September 19 2011 10:19 GMT
#3787
wtf are you waiting for blizzard?, no protoss in GSL A/S???

starcraft 2 is going down the same route as BW...
badog
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
September 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#3788
Its ok MC you will come back to Code A I know it!!
pyrodias
Profile Joined March 2011
United States27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 15:12:19
September 19 2011 12:17 GMT
#3789
djack0666
Profile Joined March 2011
Belarus219 Posts
September 19 2011 13:02 GMT
#3790
lol
"... of wolf and man!"
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 19 2011 13:19 GMT
#3791
Hopefully when someone figures out Protoss or they get buffed then MC will come back.

Right now there's a significant number of GSL players who just don't lose versus Protoss - Nestea, MVP, Losira, Bomber, Coca.

Blizzard need to step in soon because this is starting to really cut into my interest in watching Sc2 because you know when there's a Protoss playing that he's very likely to lose and if he doesn't it will be because the non Toss did something really dumb like + Show Spoiler +
Monster's Infested Terran attack in game 1.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
September 19 2011 13:27 GMT
#3792
+ Show Spoiler +
MLG will be MCs time to prove himself. He has the chance to bounce back to code S, which woud be an amazing feat. I am sure he still has the talent in him = )
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
September 19 2011 13:42 GMT
#3793
I still ♥ you MC.
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
September 19 2011 14:25 GMT
#3794
So is discussing balance okay or is all mention of balance a bannable offense?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
ThE)ShoWTimE
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy213 Posts
September 19 2011 14:50 GMT
#3795
On September 19 2011 19:19 rpgalon wrote:
wtf are you waiting for blizzard?, no protoss in GSL A/S???

starcraft 2 is going down the same route as BW...


So a protoss wins an individual league?
Kenti
Profile Joined July 2011
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 14:54:41
September 19 2011 14:51 GMT
#3796
It's like what Idra mentioned on Inside the Game, and EVEN Destiny agreed.

Don't quote me on this, I could be wrong..

"Protoss players are fucking stupid, they make a death ball even if they scout for what the opponent is going... If they just turtle to 3 - 4 bases and mass up, there's nothing that Zerg can do.."

I'm not hating on MC or anything but he didn't build not 10, not 5, but Zero High Templars to counter the Infestors...

Game 1 - was Irrelevant because he won regardless
Game 2 - is definately out of the question since there were ling run-by into his base a couple of
times which ended up costing him the game.

Game 3 -
* He went Forge FE into a Mass Zealot + Sentries with Hallucination Composition early game.

* Then he started adding Collosus regardless of what he scouted... Which was a relatively early Lair and an Infestation Pit.

* A couple of minutes later, Monster attacked his front with mass Lings and Infestors but MC did not react after successfuly defending the attack. (When I say react, I meant he didn't throw down a Templar Archive)

* Mutas Then came into his based and started harassing, Which he countered relatively easy with Blink Stalkers

Anyways, The point that I'm trying to make is that he did not make 1 High Temps on game 3.


Monster saw that and took advantage of the situation.

Still I don't want to judge MC based on 1 game, since that last engagement was pretty garbage.

His Stalkers was caught off position in the upper left side of the map, All of them got fungaled and obliterated by mass Lings + Mutas.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Maybe MC is on a tilt? Other things distracting him? Well w/e It is, I Look forward to seeing him dominate at MLG Orlando.

MC!! Hwaittting!!!
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 15:06 GMT
#3797
On September 19 2011 23:50 ThE)ShoWTimE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 19:19 rpgalon wrote:
wtf are you waiting for blizzard?, no protoss in GSL A/S???

starcraft 2 is going down the same route as BW...


So a protoss wins an individual league?


Yes, the SC2 Bisu prophecy shall come true
memes are a dish best served dank
InvXXVII
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada242 Posts
September 19 2011 15:07 GMT
#3798
I feel like MC has been losing a lot of momentum since a two GSL's ago. Maybe he's got a lot on his mind. A win at MLG will be huge for him. MC fighting!
A good loser is still a loser.
Deadstrider
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands258 Posts
September 19 2011 15:09 GMT
#3799
When i heard the news, I cried a little.. Better times will come MC

MC Fighting!:D
HerO|HuK|PartinG|Ret|Grubby|SaSe// Gogo Startale!~// snOrMoL.863
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 19 2011 15:10 GMT
#3800
T_T. I am so sad right now.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
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