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Slipspace
United States381 Posts
On February 04 2012 03:04 Megabuster123 wrote: Leenock's ZvP isn't very good at all...>_> Idra isn't the only one complaining about ZvP...Nestea and DRG both have stated that they have problems with protoss. lol ? joke ? Leenock's zvp is phenomenal | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 04 2012 03:31 Slipspace wrote: lol ? joke ? Leenock's zvp is phenomenal Eh it's his weakest MU so... | ||
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On February 04 2012 03:31 Slipspace wrote: lol ? joke ? Leenock's zvp is phenomenal Good players playing good doesn't make their matchups "phenomenal". Using basic fundamentals of matchups with pure player skill != phenomenal. He's obviously up there right alongside with Nestea/DRG, but he's not CoCa in ZvP. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
On February 04 2012 06:46 CeriseCherries wrote: ...i just want Coca to get back to the Slayers house and give Idra some ZvP and ZvZ practice/lessons The hell is up with people thinking Coca is some ZvP legend, I saw him go 2base infestor vs Huk once and he played well but I havnt seen much from him since, I heard something about a BM getting him kicked off the team or bumped down. Anyone know where I can find some replays of him vP because I've checked 3 sites and nothing showed up. | ||
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On February 04 2012 06:52 Olsson wrote: The hell is up with people thinking Coca is some ZvP legend, I saw him go 2base infestor vs Huk once and he played well but I havnt seen much from him since, I heard something about a BM getting him kicked off the team or bumped down. Anyone know where I can find some replays of him vP because I've checked 3 sites and nothing showed up. It's mostly hype (some examples of extreme, extreme brilliance but a relatively low amount of data) but is there a different Zerg to "mentor" Idra? Of course everyone would like to have a piece of Nestea's brilliance but you know that situation isn't really "possible" for Idra. Having CoCa interact with EG and Idra with SlayerS is sort of the point of the EG-SlayerS training alliance. | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On February 04 2012 06:52 Olsson wrote: The hell is up with people thinking Coca is some ZvP legend, I saw him go 2base infestor vs Huk once and he played well but I havnt seen much from him since, I heard something about a BM getting him kicked off the team or bumped down. Anyone know where I can find some replays of him vP because I've checked 3 sites and nothing showed up. rofl at ignorance. coca has 100% winrate at GSL versus protoss. Coca is in SlayerS house or not, we cannot be sure. EG and Slayers are practice partners only... IdrA, Huk, JYP, Puma or Demuslim will be treated as rivals/friends with the Slayers team not "teammates". EVEN TEAMMATES practice against one another and do not reveal their strategies to each other in order to beat them. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 04 2012 06:52 Olsson wrote: The hell is up with people thinking Coca is some ZvP legend, I saw him go 2base infestor vs Huk once and he played well but I havnt seen much from him since, I heard something about a BM getting him kicked off the team or bumped down. Anyone know where I can find some replays of him vP because I've checked 3 sites and nothing showed up. He has hype of the back of a 100% win rate in the match up. Yes 100% he has never ever lost a game in the GSL in the match up. You can't actually do better in ZvP than Coca did. He didn't just beat Protoss either he absolutely destroyed them and made Protoss look like a complete joke and the ZvP matchup so unbelievably broken that Protoss has no chance to win ever. As a point of comparison Coca is statistically better at ZvP than MMA is in TvZ or Nestea is in ZvZ. The strongest matchup statistically in the world is Coca vs Protoss, that's why he has hype. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:13 ThePlayer33 wrote: rofl at ignorance. coca has 100% winrate at GSL versus protoss. Coca is in SlayerS house or not, we cannot be sure. EG and Slayers are practice partners only... IdrA, Huk, JYP, Puma or Demuslim will be treated as rivals/friends with the Slayers team not "teammates". EVEN TEAMMATES practice against one another and do not reveal their strategies to each other in order to beat them. Ok while coca had really good zvp you have to realize his last zvp that was played was in november 2011 3 months ago. PvZ has changed a good amount and I mean he is kind of right when I saw coca play zvp I didn't see some epic macro or anything he did 2 base timing attacks and won. I would wait to see how his zvp is now before expecting this "godly never lose zvp in gsl" again for all you know he's struggling in it now to. On February 04 2012 07:17 Seraphone wrote: He has hype of the back of a 100% win rate in the match up. Yes 100% he has never ever lost a game in the GSL in the match up. You can't actually do better in ZvP than Coca did. He didn't just beat Protoss either he absolutely destroyed them and made Protoss look like a complete joke and the ZvP matchup so unbelievably broken that Protoss has no chance to win ever. LOL protoss has no chance in the match up lolol thanks for the laugh  | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:19 blade55555 wrote: LOL protoss has no chance in the match up lolol thanks for the laugh ZvP is statistically a Zerg favoured matchup. | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:19 blade55555 wrote: Ok while coca had really good zvp you have to realize his last zvp that was played was in november 2011 3 months ago. PvZ has changed a good amount and I mean he is kind of right when I saw coca play zvp I didn't see some epic macro or anything he did 2 base timing attacks and won. I would wait to see how his zvp is now before expecting this "godly never lose zvp in gsl" again for all you know he's struggling in it now to. LOL protoss has no chance in the match up lolol thanks for the laugh blade this is one of those posts that make me pity the poster he said coca was so good at zvp it made the matchup look unbelievably unbaclanced, not that zvp was broken please read before posting | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:21 Seraphone wrote: ZvP is statistically a Zerg favoured matchup. in the foreign scene, where everyone sucks last season in korea (where it only matters) it was like 55-45 pvz and this season it flipped, it's rougly even statistically | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:23 Rulker wrote: in the foreign scene, where everyone sucks last season in korea (where it only matters) it was like 55-45 pvz and this season it flipped, it's rougly even statistically I was going off the Korean scene. You can't really use one GSL half complete to talk about balance. Since October GSL (which is a better sample size) the matchup has favoured Zerg. Not that I consider the matchup imbalanced towards Zerg I'm just referencing the ridiculous posters on TL who think the matchup is actually Protoss favoured, when clearly it's not. | ||
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/animewacer/Untitled-7.png) Top right coner Overseer Idra, a coincidence i think not xp | ||
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:33 Seraphone wrote: I was going off the Korean scene. You can't really use one GSL half complete to talk about balance. Since October GSL (which is a better sample size) the matchup has favoured Zerg. Not that I consider the matchup imbalanced towards Zerg I'm just referencing the ridiculous posters on TL who think the matchup is actually Protoss favoured, when clearly it's not. Do you guys have to have this argument here? It gets really old coming in here and seeing people argue about something that has nothing to do with IdrA, especially when it's a topic as stupid as balance. | ||
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InChaoS
Sweden40 Posts
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Cypher_Brood
United States19 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/idramusic.png/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us Who knew? | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
Fixed a typo. | ||
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Macrobe
United Kingdom87 Posts
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Mycl
Australia1370 Posts
On February 04 2012 19:36 Macrobe wrote: More streaming! It's like Christmas came early! Such a good start for the session to we might get a few hours off him tonight | ||
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