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Lefaa
Finland313 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On February 03 2012 19:13 Pandemona wrote: Your kidding me t.t you bring Destiny anaylsis VOD to an Idra fan club thread WTF bro...He lost vs Avenge due to it being vs Protos. Game 1 the push COULD not be stopped, someone find me a VOD of a zerg player stopping 2immortal warp prism all in from 2 base t.t Game 2 he lost because he went Muti because he was ahead, until toss went all in with +2 attack blink stalkers, if he had gone roach instead that game he wins but he didn't he chose to muti harras. He out multi tasked a Korean pro which is proving he has fixed his mechanics which where not that good when he got picked apart by Hero back in MLG i think it was? Fkn Destiny analysis in and IdrA fan club t.t man if IdrA saw you post that he would BM u to fuck bro! O_o woah from Pandemona.. yes game 1 was crazy hard, IdrA actually responded the right way but the FFs were just unstoppable. Game 2 we are know, phoenix opener was denied but surprise surprise when he started making them again with +2 blink all-in. as i said idra didn't play that badly, he really gave it his go and there is no sign he is gonna get loose on it. | ||
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
On February 03 2012 19:13 Pandemona wrote: Your kidding me t.t you bring Destiny anaylsis VOD to an Idra fan club thread WTF bro...He lost vs Avenge due to it being vs Protos. Game 1 the push COULD not be stopped, someone find me a VOD of a zerg player stopping 2immortal warp prism all in from 2 base t.t Game 2 he lost because he went Muti because he was ahead, until toss went all in with +2 attack blink stalkers, if he had gone roach instead that game he wins but he didn't he chose to muti harras. He out multi tasked a Korean pro which is proving he has fixed his mechanics which where not that good when he got picked apart by Hero back in MLG i think it was? Fkn Destiny analysis in and IdrA fan club t.t man if IdrA saw you post that he would BM u to fuck bro! I can't believe you actually posted over 2k and didn't get banned yet. My analysis - idra lost because he didn't wear leather gracket + contacts (did he?) | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 03 2012 19:57 Dariusz wrote: I can't believe you actually posted over 2k and didn't get banned yet. My analysis - idra lost because he didn't wear leather gracket + contacts (did he?) He did...didn't notice if he had jacket on before he went into booth, in booth just EG T-Shirt....I can't beleive u base analysis on what a player his wearing | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On February 03 2012 20:09 Pandemona wrote: He did...didn't notice if he had jacket on before he went into booth, in booth just EG T-Shirt....I can't beleive u base analysis on what a player his wearing on the other hand you state idiocy like that the protoss' attack COULD not be stopped etc and proceeding to give him excuses. you are not dealing with reality, at least the other guy who talks about the jacket is not serious. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On February 03 2012 18:35 AidoS wrote: http://www.own3d.tv/Destiny#/watch/431475 there ya go, destiny analysing idra vs avenge, says why greg lost everyone should watch, he says some importend stuff starts after 60 min Thanks for the link, I'll watch this. It would be interesting to hear another pros take on this. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
 I wish Greg would come on ItG or something and personally analyze his games, but whatever. Oh, and commentary on Korean ladder would be sick! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 03 2012 20:39 msjakofsky wrote: on the other hand you state idiocy like that the protoss' attack COULD not be stopped etc and proceeding to give him excuses. you are not dealing with reality, at least the other guy who talks about the jacket is not serious. Sigh jumping to conclusions t.t COULD not be stopped in that game, idra went quick 3 bases droning hard and making units when saw push coming standard idra play. That COULD not be stopped. I admit saying the way i did that it came across as in its unstopable push from protoss full stop. but i meant it in the specific game. 3 base, still pumping up to 80drones then u see he is 2base all in'n you. You just dont have the time to get enough units out to stop, thus the push is unbeatable, most all ins are pretty hard to stop anyway. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
On February 03 2012 20:59 Pandemona wrote: Sigh jumping to conclusions t.t COULD not be stopped in that game, idra went quick 3 bases droning hard and making units when saw push coming standard idra play. That COULD not be stopped. I admit saying the way i did that it came across as in its unstopable push from protoss full stop. but i meant it in the specific game. 3 base, still pumping up to 80drones then u see he is 2base all in'n you. You just dont have the time to get enough units out to stop, thus the push is unbeatable, most all ins are pretty hard to stop anyway. IdrA did not drone to 80 drones in the first game. He stopped at 56-58 drones. It was a silly all in that was really hard to stop once the Protoss player got into that good position at his third. Better positioning could have stopped it. | ||
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enecateReAP
United Kingdom378 Posts
(High masters EU Z) (Note: I'm an IdrA fan, just saying) | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Avenge goes 2 base all in, nothing special (nothing smart about his strategy). Idra reacts well. He gets a quick third (because P FE'd), goes lair at the right time, gets Overseer, scouts perfectly, doesn't overdrone (56-58 drones is the right number against a two base all-in). Idra does a small counter attack that doesn't gain anything. He is up by 40 to 50 supply though (10 supply is worker count). Avenge pushes out and manages to get his army into a very good position. The position coupled with "decent" forcefields and the game is won, Idra can't do anything. Idra played perfectly on every single aspect except that he let P get into a game-winning position. There was nothing he could do at that point. Pro-actively, Idra should have attacked the P army in the open and bait forcefields in an attempt to engage the P army where it doesn't auto-win (ie in a closed up space in Z's base). | ||
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Veclada
742 Posts
On February 03 2012 18:35 AidoS wrote: http://www.own3d.tv/Destiny#/watch/431475 there ya go, destiny analysing idra vs avenge, says why greg lost everyone should watch, he says some importend stuff starts after 60 min thank you for posting this, it was great insight from destiny. Maybe idra could have hold it if he tried to flank b4 the first warp in | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
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cydial
United States750 Posts
On February 03 2012 18:35 AidoS wrote: http://www.own3d.tv/Destiny#/watch/431475 there ya go, destiny analysing idra vs avenge, says why greg lost everyone should watch, he says some importend stuff starts after 60 min Destiny is wrong. Why do people say stupid shit like, "He played so perfectly, but there was nothing he could do?" That makes no fucking sense. If you lose a game it's YOUR fault. It doesn't matter if you're a pro or not, what you've done in the past has no bearing on what is happening in the game NOW. When idra saw the robo, saw the gateways, saw the lack of probe production, he knew it was coming. Why oh why do zerg insist on trying to defend an all in like this AT THEIR BASE? If you lose the fight mid map then at least you have the chance to remax and start up static defense. If you lose the fight at your doorstep? It's over. Idra should've started making units as soon as he saw what the build was, especially one that is an all in. Engage the army at one of the watch towers and force force fields from the protoss away from his base. The lack of energy on the sentries will allow for a much stronger defense of his natural / main when the 2nd wave of protoss units come with sentries next to dry on energy. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On February 03 2012 21:46 cydial wrote: Destiny is wrong. Why do people say stupid shit like, "He played so perfectly, but there was nothing he could do?" That makes no fucking sense. If you lose a game it's YOUR fault. It doesn't matter if you're a pro or not, what you've done in the past has no bearing on what is happening in the game NOW. When idra saw the robo, saw the gateways, saw the lack of probe production, he knew it was coming. Why oh why do zerg insist on trying to defend an all in like this AT THEIR BASE? If you lose the fight mid map then at least you have the chance to remax and start up static defense. If you lose the fight at your doorstep? It's over. Idra should've started making units as soon as he saw what the build was, especially one that is an all in. Engage the army at one of the watch towers and force force fields from the protoss away from his base. The lack of energy on the sentries will allow for a much stronger defense of his natural / main when the 2nd wave of protoss units come with sentries next to dry on energy. He did start making units the second he saw it, like Steven said the mistake was not being proactive on the map with his units and stopping it there | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
On February 03 2012 21:46 cydial wrote: + Show Spoiler + Destiny is wrong. Why do people say stupid shit like, "He played so perfectly, but there was nothing he could do?" That makes no fucking sense. If you lose a game it's YOUR fault. It doesn't matter if you're a pro or not, what you've done in the past has no bearing on what is happening in the game NOW. When idra saw the robo, saw the gateways, saw the lack of probe production, he knew it was coming. Why oh why do zerg insist on trying to defend an all in like this AT THEIR BASE? If you lose the fight mid map then at least you have the chance to remax and start up static defense. If you lose the fight at your doorstep? It's over. Idra should've started making units as soon as he saw what the build was, especially one that is an all in. Engage the army at one of the watch towers and force force fields from the protoss away from his base. The lack of energy on the sentries will allow for a much stronger defense of his natural / main when the 2nd wave of protoss units come with sentries next to dry on energy. Funny how you start with "Destiny is wrong." and then proceed to point out what Destiny himself said IdrA could have done better in his opinion. Imo, you are right, as is Destiny, in that that could have helped, but no one knows for sure. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On February 03 2012 19:13 Pandemona wrote: Your kidding me t.t you bring Destiny anaylsis VOD to an Idra fan club thread WTF bro...He lost vs Avenge due to it being vs Protos. Game 1 the push COULD not be stopped, someone find me a VOD of a zerg player stopping 2immortal warp prism all in from 2 base t.t Game 2 he lost because he went Muti because he was ahead, until toss went all in with +2 attack blink stalkers, if he had gone roach instead that game he wins but he didn't he chose to muti harras. He out multi tasked a Korean pro which is proving he has fixed his mechanics which where not that good when he got picked apart by Hero back in MLG i think it was? Fkn Destiny analysis in and IdrA fan club t.t man if IdrA saw you post that he would BM u to fuck bro! How can someone still make such idiotic posts when he has a 2,5k+ postcount. | ||
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cydial
United States750 Posts
On February 03 2012 23:16 Junichi wrote: Funny how you start with "Destiny is wrong." and then proceed to point out what Destiny himself said IdrA could have done better in his opinion. Imo, you are right, as is Destiny, in that that could have helped, but no one knows for sure. If you read my post you'd see the quote. Destiny said he played so perfectly and I'm disagreeing because Idra actually played poorly. | ||
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courtpanda
866 Posts
On February 03 2012 23:31 Jakkerr wrote: How can someone still make such idiotic posts when he has a 2,5k+ postcount. experience != intelligence | ||
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Funkydonky
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