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so.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2 Posts
February 02 2012 00:07 GMT
#33801
On February 02 2012 08:39 Dawg_Snow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 00:26 lisward wrote:
Idra vs Stephano match lol someone should set it up.


here you go :


when was this casted?
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 00:23:51
February 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#33802
On February 02 2012 09:07 so. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 08:39 Dawg_Snow wrote:
On February 02 2012 00:26 lisward wrote:
Idra vs Stephano match lol someone should set it up.


here you go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUKD-84jr5M


when was this casted?


I'm not sure, but i think that the only time they met eachother was during Stephano's trip in Korea, last december. I'm not sure btw.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 00:11:33
February 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#33803
It is from december from korean ladder, they never met in a tournament though
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
DaPyro
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Serbia131 Posts
February 02 2012 01:05 GMT
#33804
My View on IdrA:

I play Zerg, the one zerg that I love watching win more out of any other is... IdrA... most people just love watching IdrA lose just because of the fact they will see some controversy or because they plain don't like him. I love watching IdrA win because he plays the game the way I love watching it be played, His play is usually: "Im going to macro and i will out macro you, and if you give me a small advantage ill take it and win the game with it". Beating Kiwi and HuK at DC 2010 and beating Puma 3-0 at IEM China are some of my favorite wins from him.

The problem with the way IdrA plays is the best way i can put it is...See-through. He will take risk's, but only if they will give him a sure win. Even if he knows it wont work he will still do what he thinks is the best thing to do, and hope for the best. Problem is, because how essential the surprise factor in starcraft is, and the more you know of your opponent... the more you can tweak what you do decide to do to counter that. So therefore, the best thing to do.. is not always the best thing to do. IdrA, knows he can't get behind with his style of play, and will not win if he cannot get an advantage. Take a look at when he plays HuK and Puma, He beat them earlier and now... twice hes lost to both in recent tournaments. Puma even stated he feels comfortable playing against IdrA. It is very easy to see how IdrA will go for an advantage in a game and most can counter it. My opinion of IdrA is that he thinks too much of the time that its his reaction that matters (Zerg is the reactionary race) and he doesnt think about his opponents reaction to his reaction and he will always play to hope for the best in a situation.

Take the games vs Avenge...
Game 1: Idra sees fast Xpo and Idra takes 3rd and masses roaches, He starts upgrades+burrow+armor all at the same time for roaches due to the large amount of sentries, pretty standard and will counter mass FF's if they finish... Now what he does is just HOPES that Avenge wont push out until the upgrades are done. Ofcourse Avenge, knows idra is probably waiting for upgrades, knows his timing and pushes out before the upgrades are done. What IdrA probably thinks: "I reacted perfectly, I made the right decision for the win, nothing else would have won me the game".

Game 2: Idra sees 2 base stargate, makes spores, defends base with only minor loses of queens and overlords, sure his defence could have been better but it was sufficient. He goes to muta, knowning that he will win the game with ling&muta harras in 2 different places while avenge tries to take 3rd. Again, Avenge knows whats happening and knows his timing, and attacks when IdrA is most useless (when he's invested already in mutas, but doesn't have enough of them yet to be effective). What IdrA probably thinks: "if I got those muta's out it would have been a sure victory, I couldn't have won otherwise".

My other 2 favourite Zergs are Leenock and Nestea. What do they do differently? they expect what their opponents reaction will be to their reaction is. My advice to IdrA is he needs to work on his mind set during games. No not the part where he needs to change his mindset about Tilt. Rage, Imbalance, but the Mindset in the actual moment of the game. Some tips id say...Keep his opponent guessing, Get Creative once in a while, Dont be afraid to take the less efficient route, dont over&underestime your opponents and definitely don't hope for the best, expect that it may not be the best choice after all.
Drone so hard motherfuckers wanna fine me. Whats 50k minerals to a nigga like me? can you please remind me
Mafs
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada458 Posts
February 02 2012 02:22 GMT
#33805
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1388/?set=2&lang=

Just a nice game from Idra. I think if Idra wants to start winning he has to find new strats like that make them work in the current metagame. It also seems to me Idra's play mechanically looks very similar back then and today. Its amazing how his mechanics were just so ahead of everyone else's.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
February 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#33806
IdrA doesn't need HuK anymore.
[image loading]
Get crunk
Kalza
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada103 Posts
February 02 2012 11:27 GMT
#33807
Streaming<3
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
February 02 2012 11:40 GMT
#33808
That was a sick hold.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 12:42:41
February 02 2012 12:01 GMT
#33809
Is he playing on KR ladder? Third consecutive opponent with a name written in roman letters.


Edit: nvm... the question is actually stupid, was just confused by seeing no korean letters..
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
February 02 2012 13:34 GMT
#33810
noooo idra is streaming and im at school + my laptop broke (
IM & EG supporter
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
February 02 2012 16:36 GMT
#33811
From the recent SlayerS_Puzzle interview Gregs been teaching Slayers to work out

An admirer of Gregs body
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Snettik
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland186 Posts
February 02 2012 16:59 GMT
#33812
Thank god I have bronchitis so I can focus on greg instead of boring exams.
HadeCiao
Profile Joined January 2012
Guatemala81 Posts
February 02 2012 17:21 GMT
#33813
idra is not a skilled player, he is uncreative and always does the same

sure he has nice mechanics due to playing 24/7 however the lack of deep game understanding and having fun while playing makes him a poor guy who will never make it to the very top
3 pool
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
February 02 2012 18:13 GMT
#33814
On February 03 2012 02:21 HadeCiao wrote:
idra is not a skilled player, he is uncreative and always does the same

sure he has nice mechanics due to playing 24/7 however the lack of deep game understanding and having fun while playing makes him a poor guy who will never make it to the very top

I am going to quote Kennigit on this:

Kennigit> Are you a fucking donkey?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88478
Get crunk
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 18:49:23
February 02 2012 18:46 GMT
#33815
On February 03 2012 02:21 HadeCiao wrote:
idra is not a skilled player, he is uncreative and always does the same

sure he has nice mechanics due to playing 24/7 however the lack of deep game understanding and having fun while playing makes him a poor guy who will never make it to the very top


AFAIK some of the best BW players were pretty uncreative, just mechanically superior by such a large margin that they didn't have to be "creative" (whatever that means in BW / SC2) but just got ahead by executing everything they do near perfect.

Else... *sigh*.. IdrA fanclub is not complete without a warning/ban every 3 days or so, I guess...

Edit: not to say you will get banned or receive a warning for sure.. it's just a feeling...
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Vortigan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark306 Posts
February 02 2012 19:04 GMT
#33816
On February 02 2012 03:56 Olsson wrote:
BW is a more stable game and balanced so with his dedication I think he could've become a bonjwa. It's been discussed several times that Sc2 is too volatile and luck is a big factor in some games.


Wait are u actually for real? Idra was sooooo far away from being anyway near bonjwa status. I'm not sure u understand at all what that means.

I'm not talking bad about Idra in his fanclub or anything but that is just wrong.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
February 02 2012 21:02 GMT
#33817
I wish the term "bonjwa" was never created. All it does now is cause problems in almost every thread/discussion.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
February 02 2012 21:13 GMT
#33818
On February 02 2012 03:56 Olsson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 03:41 Steglich wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote:
I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.

He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.

Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.

What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.

The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.

Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.

Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.

You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.

Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.


That is so beautiful. Thank you for that. I hope (and believe) that you are right. Maybe except for the BW bonjwa.


BW is a more stable game and balanced so with his dedication I think he could've become a bonjwa. It's been discussed several times that Sc2 is too volatile and luck is a big factor in some games.


If you don't know what the word means, please, PLEASE, don't use it, k?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
February 02 2012 21:16 GMT
#33819
On February 03 2012 06:13 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 03:56 Olsson wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:41 Steglich wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote:
I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.

He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.

Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.

What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.

The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.

Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.

Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.

You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.

Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.


That is so beautiful. Thank you for that. I hope (and believe) that you are right. Maybe except for the BW bonjwa.


BW is a more stable game and balanced so with his dedication I think he could've become a bonjwa. It's been discussed several times that Sc2 is too volatile and luck is a big factor in some games.


If you don't know what the word means, please, PLEASE, don't use it, k?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa


Well he is only saying that he could become a bonjwa, i dont see the problem?
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
February 02 2012 21:21 GMT
#33820
On February 03 2012 06:16 aderum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 06:13 DDie wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:56 Olsson wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:41 Steglich wrote:
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote:
I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.

He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.

Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.

What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.

The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.

Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.

Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.

You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.

Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.


That is so beautiful. Thank you for that. I hope (and believe) that you are right. Maybe except for the BW bonjwa.


BW is a more stable game and balanced so with his dedication I think he could've become a bonjwa. It's been discussed several times that Sc2 is too volatile and luck is a big factor in some games.


If you don't know what the word means, please, PLEASE, don't use it, k?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa


Well he is only saying that he could become a bonjwa, i dont see the problem?

IdrA was a b teamer for years so of course he would never become a bonjwa though
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