On February 02 2012 01:55 Jinsho wrote: Coca tweeted that I think.
I wonder if IdrA should just stay in Korea full-time and only come to MLG/DH. Cause right now JYP, HuK, Puma are in Korea anyways, and in the US house there's only iNcontroL and DeMusliM, and obv Korea is the best practice environment.
But I guess that depends on whether he changed his mind about being in Korea now that he actually has teammates and is in a practice house.
I thought demuslim will play in the next GSL aswell and Inc wanted to come to Korea, too? I hope they will all stay in Korea in order to qualify for Code S..
Looks like losing Code A hasn't deterred IdrA from training. His match history shows a huge amount of laddering just a day after dropping out. Hopefully he can use the pain of defeat as motivation.
I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.
He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.
Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.
What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.
The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.
Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.
Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.
You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.
those gsl games against illusion.... he had the game scouted until the EXACT right time toss started his all-in. Idra was caught off guard both games. Good luck for future games idra, dont loose hope, the metagame shifts every single week...
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote: I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.
He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.
Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.
What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.
The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.
Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.
Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.
You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.
Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.
That is so beautiful. Thank you for that. I hope (and believe) that you are right. Maybe except for the BW bonjwa.
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote: I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.
He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.
Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.
What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.
The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.
Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.
Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.
You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.
Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.
That is so beautiful. Thank you for that. I hope (and believe) that you are right. Maybe except for the BW bonjwa.
BW is a more stable game and balanced so with his dedication I think he could've become a bonjwa. It's been discussed several times that Sc2 is too volatile and luck is a big factor in some games.
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote: I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.
He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.
Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.
What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.
The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.
Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.
Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.
You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.
To be honest, Idra plays far more less games than a normal Korea pro does and even less games to many foreigners. He is not a hard working guy as Huk. So his result fluctuated from time to time. Sometime he seems to be unbeatable, sometimes he plays like a shit. Srsly, it's still his attitude problem. Once he truly grown up and learns the secret to become great: working instead of wining, he may become one of the best player in the world. But for now, he isnt even close.
On February 02 2012 03:57 Incze wrote: I dearly hope IdrA reads your post, Jaybles, because I did and I already feel better.
I hope he reads it because even he would laugh at the sheer absurdity of this sentence "but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa." I mean...he has to be trolling but the way the rest of the post is written I have to believe he's not.
On February 02 2012 03:57 Incze wrote: I dearly hope IdrA reads your post, Jaybles, because I did and I already feel better.
I hope he reads it because even he would laugh at the sheer absurdity of this sentence "but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa." I mean...he has to be trolling but the way the rest of the post is written I have to believe he's not.
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote: I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.
He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.
Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.
What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.
The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.
Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.
Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.
You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.
Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.
That is so beautiful. Thank you for that. I hope (and believe) that you are right. Maybe except for the BW bonjwa.
BW is a more stable game and balanced so with his dedication I think he could've become a bonjwa. It's been discussed several times that Sc2 is too volatile and luck is a big factor in some games.
Sorry, but how is a 0% ZvZ win-rate in Korea "volatile"
How long will we blame "randomness/luck/volatility" for someone who so consistently loses? It's like saying the guy who's taken $150k off of you in 6 hours at a poker table "just got lucky"
without trolling or sarcasm whatsoever, I honestly ask: How consistently does Idra have to lose (Read: he is incredibly consistent at it in the last few months) before it is more than just luck, randomness, or volatility?
I mean he is a very consistent player, don't get me wrong. But given that consistency in his playstyle, randomness/luck/volatility has to be even less of a factor in his losing. What percentage of his games (per matchup) does he deviate his end-game strategy? Again, i'm not trying to just talk shit on idra or something. I'm just trying to understand what I'm missing about the volatility of a consistent losing streak?
if you could help me understand something that seems so glaringly obvious to you, I would be embarrassed that I missed it, but I'd be quite grateful to hear it.
On February 02 2012 03:30 Jaybles wrote: I think honestly, idra has yet to unveil most of his potential, there's a reason he rages, and honestly, there's a level of strength there that i know most if not all of you don't have, and that's dedication.
He was playing this game every day since release, burn out? The kid is probably so far beyond burn out that really if he sticks to training, and finding better methodologies to work out earlier aggression, (which is in how it's played early game), he will ultimately probably redesign the match up.
Everyone wants to bash on him because he gets mad, he has the right to get mad, does it suck that his head sometimes gets in his way? certainly, but if was still playing broodwar there's no doubt by now he would have been a proclaimed bonjiwa.
What he is and always has been mad about is the disappointment to the causality of sc2; Does it suck, certainly, Will a player like Greg.Idra.Fields end up turning this game on its side, i think the answer is ultimately yes, and make no mistake, there's no lack of conviction from his part.
The true testament to a hero is how far will they fall until they climb back to the top, and if you don't think that, there's clearly a mentality flaw within yourself or your just a child, either way.
Everyone wants to bash on him clearly because they know there are true fans here, and I find it horribly depressing.
Haters are going to hate, especially on winners, and sure maybe following the events of GSL code A, isn't the best example of him personally being a winner, but he is still arguably one of the best foreigners out there.
You wanna talk about stefano? Let's talk about how he typically ladders against EU players, and they aren't nearly as all-in or aggressive, meanwhile in GSL greg is going against early game pressure every time because they know they can make him crack. They literally engineer their game play to make him want to give up, is it sad to see it when it happens --- You're god damn right.
Best of luck Greg; Rooting for you.
It's starting to change. Strelok and Thorzain made some things change last 2 days. Stephano doesn't look like "unbeatable" anymore vs Terran (btw, vs Protoss...it's a bit one sided)
BTW, i agree about every other points, nice writing man. I like it.
On February 02 2012 05:59 eleaf wrote: To be honest, Idra plays far more less games than a normal Korea pro does and even less games to many foreigners. He is not a hard working guy as Huk. So his result fluctuated from time to time. Sometime he seems to be unbeatable, sometimes he plays like a shit. Srsly, it's still his attitude problem. Once he truly grown up and learns the secret to become great: working instead of wining, he may become one of the best player in the world. But for now, he isnt even close.
Have you ever actually looked at IdrA's match history? Do you know if he have any smurfs or plays on different servers occasionally? You don't know at all so don't pull made up facts out your ass.
On February 02 2012 05:59 eleaf wrote: To be honest, Idra plays far more less games than a normal Korea pro does and even less games to many foreigners. He is not a hard working guy as Huk. So his result fluctuated from time to time. Sometime he seems to be unbeatable, sometimes he plays like a shit. Srsly, it's still his attitude problem. Once he truly grown up and learns the secret to become great: working instead of wining, he may become one of the best player in the world. But for now, he isnt even close.
What? Idra plays a ton of games, he has like almost 800 ladder games played on his KR account, and who knows how many customs he's played. Even CoCa tweeted that he practiced a lot. He may whine, but saying he doesnt practice is a blatant lie.
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