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On October 17 2011 08:41 xtfftc wrote:Best foreigner for the last three weeks - yep. Best foreigner for the last two months - no way. It's impossible to pick one out of Idra, Thorzain, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, etc. Huk has had the best tournament results overall; Stephano has had amazing runs since he started attending LANs, Thorzain narrowly lost to DRG at the Valencia Invitational, Dimaga re-emerges every now and then to perform amazingly at a major tournament... If somehow a league that has the best foreigners participating gets established and someone performs at a top level consistently (simiarly to Nestea and MVP in GSL), then yes, we'd be able to crown this player as the best foreigner. At the moment it's impossible though. Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 08:34 Megaman_X wrote:
does this mean idra has code A spot? some tournaments consider huk a korean so do they consider idra a korean as well? Yes to the Code A spot; no to whatever it is that you're asking about Idra being considered Korean ^^
Im a fan of Idra but i considered him one of the koreans.
He was living and training there for most of his sc career.
Huk, Idra and Jinro are definitely Koreans to me.
The foreigners that could compete with Koreans in foreigner tourneys are Naniwa, Thorzain, Stephano and a few others (first 2 went to Korea a while ago tho)
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I used to dislike IdrA quite a bit, but this MLG made me a believer. IdrA always makes for entertaining games these days.
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On October 17 2011 09:45 hysterial wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 09:17 TheBamf wrote:
Waow, this MLG convinced me. he is the best foreigner by miles. Miles is a bit of an overreaction. Unless you aren't including HuK.
I am including him.
Idra is just plainly better, HuK is not bad. But his macro and bo's are not anywhere near Idras. Look at the third game vs TheSTC for a refrence, he does 8 gates, robo and bay with forge on 2 base.
Not smooth at all, it only worked because TheSTC had some massive hickups. Now compare that game to Bomber vs Idra game 1 and 3.
When Idra gets his ZvP under control he will be tearing it up!
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On October 17 2011 09:48 taLbuk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 09:45 Hydra3 wrote:
OK there were 2, I repeat, 2 games in the finals of this huge tournament. Something is wrong with mlg's system Yup, so anti-climactic, i wouldn't call it unfair though, but very underwhelming
In my opinion it's unfair.
When you win pool play, you get into the winner bracket (while all the rest are in looser bracket), you only need a limited number of games to win the actual tournament (basically only two best of 3 to be in the final... look at HuK's run... compare it to IdrA's...) and you get a huge advantage on almost every one with extended series.
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Idra, HuK, Stephano (crowning him) are the highest-tier imo. Then there are about a dozen that could have a great chance against any Korean on any given day.
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IdrA vs. Bomber, game one of MLG Orlando.
Best TvZ I have ever seen.
+ Show Spoiler +IdrA, you're a fucking beast ♥
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Stop complaining about the MLG format. Naniwa became a champion through the open bracket, so it's not an impossible feat.
Great job today Idra!!
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IdrA will always be the best zerg role model to me. Hwaiting in GSL!!!
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On October 17 2011 10:06 Shichoo wrote:
Stop complaining about the MLG format. Naniwa became a champion through the open bracket, so it's not an impossible feat.
Great job today Idra!!
Plus, all of the top-tier Koreans to enter MLG through the open bracket easily made it out and into the top 6 range, at every MLG to date. The format is fine and the best players can easily clinch the title. The only downside to the format is it relies on seeded rankings for groups and a lot of the people who would be in those groups (like basically every Korean who went to MLG) don't come back every time, so a lot of random nobodies get to stick around.
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great job IdrA, im super impressed with the bomber win <3
I wanted you to win but i still love you!
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idra's probably unique fault in his play against protoss is that his composition is not effective. Idra never relies on zerglings when they are one of the scariest units in the game in mass numbers with nice upgrades.
to beat mass stalkers (what MC used against him today), he can simply max on zerglings with adrenal and nice upgrades, 3-4 infestors with neural if there are colossi and NOT MORE than 10 roaches. no need to be on creep if there are adrenal glands and nice upgrades, however do not move out before upgrades finish. easy win against mass stalkers.
hope idra sees this.
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I highly doubt IdrA will take game advice from a random poster in his fanclub...
I just can't keep the grin off my face looking at the top 8 and seeing IdrA in 4th, in the midst of a ton of awesome koreans and above 4 of them. 
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Just finished up watching the Boxer v Idra series in the lower bracket. That pep talk from Alex looked pretty intense after that 6th game.
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On October 17 2011 10:13 cold- wrote:
idra's probably unique fault in his play against protoss is that his composition is not effective. Idra never relies on zerglings when they are one of the scariest units in the game in mass numbers with nice upgrades.
to beat mass stalkers (what MC used against him today), he can simply max on zerglings with adrenal and nice upgrades, 3-4 infestors with neural if there are colossi and NOT MORE than 10 roaches. no need to be on creep if there are adrenal glands and nice upgrades, however do not move out before upgrades finish. easy win against mass stalkers.
hope idra sees this.
yea because he's going to take advice from a random comment on the internet over his own instincts and the advice of pro players that he has access to.
Anywho, Idra is going to Korea soon and he has a Code A spot. Cant wait to see him tear through the GSL 
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IdrA played so well today. But no one can make it through that gauntlet. Not even NesTea would have survived all of that and then gone on to win.
I would have gladly waited while they gave IdrA a 30 minute break, or at least 15.
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On October 17 2011 09:30 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 08:54 cordlc wrote:On October 17 2011 08:26 WhiteDog wrote:IdrA had gone 4-1 in his pool, like HuK, but he had to win against Boxer, Hongun, Bomber and then MC just to face the winner of HuK vs Thestc, while HuK just had to win MKP and TheStc to be in the final. Guess what, IdrA + Show Spoiler +MLG's format is incredibly dumb. That has nothing to do with MLG's format, this will happen in any tournament that uses group play. Unless you're suggesting Idra & MK should have played a tiebreaker match (don't think anyone actually does this) Sorry, there are no tournament with pool play where the second of the pool goes into the looser bracket.
That isn't relevant.
If it were only the top 2 making it into the winner's bracket instead, your complaint about how two players with the same score (say, 3-2) being treated differently would still hold. Recall IEM Guangzhou, Idra was the only player from the group stages that advanced with a 1-2 record.
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Astounding play by IdrA at this MLG, looking forward to more! :D The series vs Bomber was awesome to watch! Hopefully he'll master ZvP soon!
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On October 17 2011 10:23 Chargelot wrote:
IdrA played so well today. But no one can make it through that gauntlet. Not even NesTea would have survived all of that and then gone on to win.
I would have gladly waited while they gave IdrA a 30 minute break, or at least 15.
I think that sums it up well. I think it was Artosis who said that MC had actually gone through more matches than Idra. While true, Idra had to make it through the two toughest Koreans in the tournament. That was an incredible feat.
Had he not lost to MKP, I think he would have been in the final easily.
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Edit: nvm looks like things are working differently in providence.
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IdrA will be THE best foreigner once he gets out to Korea. No doubt about it.
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