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Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 07:50:04
January 16 2013 02:33 GMT
#90001
SNSD comeback is a 100% success because it enabled this to happen. All other arguments are hereby considered irrelevant.

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화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 16 2013 02:36 GMT
#90002
On January 16 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 16 2013 08:24 Fawkes wrote:

IGAB > Express 999 > Lost In Love/Baby Maybe > Promise > Dancing Queen > Talk Talk > Romantic St > Look At Me > XYZ


And oh boy, that Jung sister photoshoot. Imba.



I was planning on giving the album a listen later this week, but if IGAB is the best on that album......

You haven't given the album a chance in 2 weeks, why start now?

Must suck to be called a failure. When anybody in the kpop industry is compared to SNSD.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 03:04:08
January 16 2013 03:01 GMT
#90003
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IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
January 16 2013 03:02 GMT
#90004
People should always give an album a try even if they don't enjoy the title tracks. Sometimes I feel that the best songs in the album are never heard since people don't bother to listen just because of the title track.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 03:09:13
January 16 2013 03:07 GMT
#90005
On January 16 2013 11:36 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 10:59 wei2coolman wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 16 2013 08:24 Fawkes wrote:

IGAB > Express 999 > Lost In Love/Baby Maybe > Promise > Dancing Queen > Talk Talk > Romantic St > Look At Me > XYZ


And oh boy, that Jung sister photoshoot. Imba.



I was planning on giving the album a listen later this week, but if IGAB is the best on that album......

You haven't given the album a chance in 2 weeks, why start now?

Must suck to be called a failure. When anybody in the kpop industry is compared to SNSD.

It's called life getting in the way. Been pretty busy with tons of school related stuff, so kpop secondary to actually doing school stuff. Generally when I listen to an album, I like listening to it all the way through, in order. So it's actually a pretty big time commitment before I give the album a run through.

On January 16 2013 12:02 IMHope wrote:
People should always give an album a try even if they don't enjoy the title tracks. Sometimes I feel that the best songs in the album are never heard since people don't bother to listen just because of the title track.

Well it was more so, delay listening to it even further than the already 2 weeks.
liftlift > tsm
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
January 16 2013 03:09 GMT
#90006
On January 16 2013 12:02 IMHope wrote:
People should always give an album a try even if they don't enjoy the title tracks. Sometimes I feel that the best songs in the album are never heard since people don't bother to listen just because of the title track.


The latest Miss A album was like this, I really disliked Touch but ended up liking every other track on the album more.
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Chesskid1
Profile Joined May 2008
United States123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 03:28:22
January 16 2013 03:14 GMT
#90007


oh man, this song is gonna be stupid catchy.

HYPE!!!!!!
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 16 2013 03:25 GMT
#90008
On January 16 2013 12:14 Chesskid1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dn1QW8BBVY


oh man, this song is gonna be stupid catchy.

HYPE

That could totally be a T-ara song.
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
January 16 2013 03:30 GMT
#90009
from the sound of the teaser I thinks it's just going to be stupid

anyways MYNAME teaser

jiayou123
Profile Joined January 2013
Belarus1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 03:36:04
January 16 2013 03:35 GMT
#90010
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#90011
@Andy, Ness's posts
Andy had it pretty much right. I wasn't trying to say it was a failure or any of that shit, that's obviously not true. What I found most interesting about that thing I quoted was that TTS and previous SNSD releases outsold IGAB when I didn't really expect it to. So in reference to what Ness is saying, it isn't fair to compare different girl groups. But comparing previous SNSD releases to SNSD releases is fair, and apparently IGAB doesn't stack up sales/popularity wise.

Youtube views don't mean much IMO- there is that 2 billion deleted fake view thing Klogg mentioned, and even if youtube ignores scripts like Ness suggested (and I have seen people saying otherwise, but w/e) I'd bet a huge number of people clicked on it when it was on the front page, either out of boredom or to test sound (the IT place where I work does this to test sound/internet all the time). This doesn't mean it's popular, it just means that it was on the front page of the most popular streaming website in the world.

And before people say it, no I'm not arguing that the song isn't popular at all, just that 30 million (or whatever) views isn't indicative of anything. Obviously it's popular; it's an SNSD release. I just found it interesting that it wasn't as popular (popular enough for random people to want to buy the song, not "popular" enough for people to click on a random video) as previous releases.
DjSweetBazz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden172 Posts
January 16 2013 04:10 GMT
#90012
On January 16 2013 09:10 Craton wrote:
I gave him his first true kpop with like 1gb worth of music, but I lost the list of what I gave him back when megaupload went under. I have no idea what he uses these days. This was maybe 2010.

really? wow thats pretty sick, from what I have seen on his stream he uses 8tracks now

On January 16 2013 09:38 DwD wrote:

Pretty sure he uses this one http://8tracks.com/jvo3/dat-kpop

Thank you bro!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 16 2013 04:22 GMT
#90013
On January 16 2013 12:01 Nesserev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 09:55 ShmeeZZy wrote:
On January 16 2013 09:12 andyrau wrote:

On January 16 2013 06:19 ShmeeZZy wrote:
Your link is broken. Guessing the author didn't do proper fact checking. Here are some numbers. Over 30 million views on YouTube for IGAB in 2 weeks. Number one on all the charts, including 2 weeks on Billboard. They also have like 5 or 6 songs off the album in the top 50. I doubt the Korean public, or the world for that matter, is hating on it like this thread is.

Views on yt don't mean shit. Stop using that metric as justification.
Rebecca Black has upwards of 40 million views but only sold something like 35k on itunes. Views aren't indicative of how much people enjoy a song. all it is is more exposure, which I guess is a positive thing but rather irrelevant.
And, as other people have said, there are scripts that easily rack up youtube views.


30 million views in over 2 weeks means something. This is a lot of freaking views in 2 weeks. To dismiss it completely is stupid. You are ignoring numbers that exist. People are talking about it. It is getting views. It means there is a BIG interest in it. I am not using it as my sole argument but part of a whole. It becomes very relevant when combined with the success on the other charts.

The point that is trying to be made is that this promotion cycle has been a failure. It has not and there has been more proof of success and barely any hint of failure.

Second of all, you guys should either discuss the same thing or just stop. While ShmeeZZy is discussing the success of the song, andyrau is discussing the quality of the song, which are related to eachother, but not the same thing

..
I wasn't discussing song quality at all for the most part, I was simply discussing the validity of calling it a success.
Once again, for the last time, it's a commercial success. More exposure for the group, high download/record sales, shows them expanding the scope of music genres (whatever the fuck that means in kpop), etc.
Musically and historically, I'd still say it's a bit of a flop. But in the grand scheme of things, it's just a small blip in their careers.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Nyorx
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada325 Posts
January 16 2013 05:25 GMT
#90014
Teaser #2. Two different concepts I guess. Should be interesting.
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Su`Ji
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 16 2013 08:22 GMT
#90015

BP Pop's song is out. Nothing special about them, other than they're opening the 2013 girl group floodgates.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 16 2013 08:29 GMT
#90016
Is it just me or they look like they have really short legs? Maybe its the lack of heels? (but they should be wearing lifts in those sneakers right?)

The song is alright, they're all pretty qt.
Really didn't expect a random dude to pop out. O.o
This is a 5 person group right? Need to differentiate background dancers from main group.
liftlift > tsm
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 16 2013 08:34 GMT
#90017
Does anyone know in total how many(girl) groups debuted in 2012?
WriterXiao8~~
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 16 2013 09:30 GMT
#90018
On January 16 2013 17:34 Kipsate wrote:
Does anyone know in total how many(girl) groups debuted in 2012?

35+
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_Korean_idol_groups#2012
sort by gender.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
January 16 2013 09:41 GMT
#90019
hm, bp pop nothing special, its listenable so its gonna go on my playlist for a while i guess, gonna wait and see the tiny g stuff, really sounds like t-ara.

oh and i stream too, kpop only but i mostly listen to full lps, no shuffle. so when girls day is playing u can expect it to be played for a while etc
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
January 16 2013 10:13 GMT
#90020
For anybody that wants to watch Romantic & Idol episode 2, it seems that a new group has started to sub the show, personally I think those subs are better than those of Kshownow, you can find it at Daebaksubs.

The new season of R&I feels really samey in comparison with season 1 imo, but I like the characters better so I think I'll keep watching.

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