Korean Music Discussion - Page 3370

On July 31 2012 01:03 DwD wrote:


Don't forget all the bonus points they will get from a very vocal fanbase

On July 31 2012 03:22 StorkHwaiting wrote:
I was banned for a month but i'm SO happy I'm back in time to comment on this!! Big T-ARA fan here. Andddd... my opinion is that Jiyeon and Eunjung are both on the bitchy side IRL. I've seen quite a bit of footage of them on variety shows/WGM etc.

Eunjung strikes me as the fake cutesy type of girl, but mostly hard-working and doesn't like people who bullshit her around. I could definitely imagine her starting to get catty if another girl got stuck into the group and wasn't pulling her weight. Jiyeon, on the other hand, has always struck me as a megabitchy ice princess. Suppper immature, super spiteful. I wouldn't doubt for a second that Jiyeon was doing bullying.

On the other hand, I'd sleep with either one of them in a heartbeat. And they're the only two that I really like in the group. Hyomin can stick around too I guess. But 3-ARA would be great imo.

Too bad I'm in the obvious minority here. Nor am I the important part of their fanbase. I just listen to their music, watch their MVs and enjoy how bitchy hot they look. I'm not the type who goes berserk buying posters and going to fan-signings etc and delusionally telling myself the image these idols portray is anything close to reality. That's what's kind of frightening to me about Kpop fandom. The fact they really buy into the image these companies are selling. Isn't it obvious these are manufactured idols and it's far more likely that the company is creating these personas for them??

On July 31 2012 03:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
She was most likely being lazy and a drama-queen and causing problems for the whole team? Just look at how she's been on twitter. She's stirring the pot as much as possible, getting her sister to join in, NOT clearing the rest of T-Ara from the rumors, while saying everyone is lying, yet NOT setting the record straight. What does that say about her personality?

So she'll openly call the CEO a liar, but then she doesn't have the balls to set the record straight. I don't get how people aren't seeing this angle. They just keep crying that Hwayoung is being picked on. But you know what? Hwayoung is the one with all the power here. She can easily go on twitter and tell her side. But she hasn't. Why? Most likely because the company really DOES have dirt on her.

At the very least, she could have cleared the rest of T-ara from the bullying accusations. She didn't. What does that say? If they really bullied her, it says that she's not a generous person and holds grudges. If they didn't bully her, then that's 1000x worse. In the end, I blame Hwayoung 100%. The other girls' tweets could have been about anything. Until Hwayoung decided to take to twitter and make sure everyone knew it was about her. What's that tell you about her personality?

The others didn't spread nasty rumors or anything like that. They said someone on the team lacks dedication and manners. What do you think that says? The fact that the majority of T-ara's founding members backed up Hyomin's statement is telling. The fact that the ONLY person speaking up for Hwayoung is her sister. Nobody else at that company? If the founding members were bullying and trying to kick out new members, I think it's they who would be the ones punished. Because I doubt KKS would like the girls taking power into their own hands and deciding who gets to stay and go. In fact, if that were the case, he'd probably kick out one of the founding members just to show who was in charge.

Shit don't add up. Netizens too busy freaking out because they got bullied themselves as kids so they want to go with that tardcake interpretation and rage hard to try to exorcise the demons of their own pasts. Pathetic imo.

On July 31 2012 03:32 ASie wrote:

Umm... In what sense did that make you an obvious minority? I think many of us like these three members. Of course we know that they act on variety shows and such. They are pretty people who make catchy music.

On July 31 2012 03:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
She was most likely being lazy and a drama-queen and causing problems for the whole team? Just look at how she's been on twitter. She's stirring the pot as much as possible, getting her sister to join in, NOT clearing the rest of T-Ara from the rumors, while saying everyone is lying, yet NOT setting the record straight. What does that say about her personality?

So she'll openly call the CEO a liar, but then she doesn't have the balls to set the record straight. I don't get how people aren't seeing this angle. They just keep crying that Hwayoung is being picked on. But you know what? Hwayoung is the one with all the power here. She can easily go on twitter and tell her side. But she hasn't. Why? Most likely because the company really DOES have dirt on her.

At the very least, she could have cleared the rest of T-ara from the bullying accusations. She didn't. What does that say? If they really bullied her, it says that she's not a generous person and holds grudges. If they didn't bully her, then that's 1000x worse. In the end, I blame Hwayoung 100%. The other girls' tweets could have been about anything. Until Hwayoung decided to take to twitter and make sure everyone knew it was about her. What's that tell you about her personality?

The others didn't spread nasty rumors or anything like that. They said someone on the team lacks dedication and manners. What do you think that says? The fact that the majority of T-ara's founding members backed up Hyomin's statement is telling. The fact that the ONLY person speaking up for Hwayoung is her sister. Nobody else at that company? If the founding members were bullying and trying to kick out new members, I think it's they who would be the ones punished. Because I doubt KKS would like the girls taking power into their own hands and deciding who gets to stay and go. In fact, if that were the case, he'd probably kick out one of the founding members just to show who was in charge.

Shit don't add up. Netizens too busy freaking out because they got bullied themselves as kids so they want to go with that tardcake interpretation and rage hard to try to exorcise the demons of their own pasts. Pathetic imo.

Allkpop:
But Hwayoung maintained an uncomfortable expression on her face, and Jiyeon who saw this slapped Hwayoung across the cheek and told her that because she had come in late to the already-established group T-ara, she needed to act sensibly and to rehearse without that expression on her face.

“I am a member of Hot Chicks, an exclusive dance team for T-ara, and am also working with Davichi, KARA, Brown Eyed Girls, Rainbow Pixie, and more.
It was around the time the Japanese concert took place. We were getting big with our “Lovey Dovey” shuffle dance after Hwayoung was admitted, and getting ready to perform “Roly Poly” for our year-end performance.

During one of the rehearsals, it was a situation where Kwang Soo had jam-packed our schedules, so both the dancers and the members of T-ara who had just completed their day’s work were extremely sensitive and on edge.

Still, everyone was mustering up their last bit of strength and practicing, when Hwayoung messed up a little bit of the choreography.

Seeing this, Jiyeon and Soyeon then sarcastically scoffed at her, saying, ‘Since you already decided to join, you should maybe work a little harder.’

Hwayoung then became a little depressed, but the dance leader mediated the situation and the rehearsal resumed.

But Hwayoung maintained an uncomfortable expression on her face, and Jiyeon who saw this slapped Hwayoung across the cheek and told her that because she had come in late to the already-established group T-ara, she needed to act sensibly and to rehearse without that expression on her face.

The atmosphere became extremely tense, and Hyomin took Jiyeon outside, telling her that she should just be the bigger person.

Even after Hwayoung’s ‘exposure’ incident, everyone was indifferent towards her, rather than comforting.

After the incident, T-ara went on hiatus to prepare for “Day By Day” and because of events with Davichi and Brown Eyed Girls, I could only see T-ara on TV.

Seeing them on the small-screen, I thought that the girls’ relationship with Hwayoung had improved, but these girls who are all grown don’t want to sit by her in the car so they blatantly play rock paper scissors right in front of her face.”

On July 31 2012 03:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
She was most likely being lazy and a drama-queen and causing problems for the whole team? Just look at how she's been on twitter. She's stirring the pot as much as possible, getting her sister to join in, NOT clearing the rest of T-Ara from the rumors, while saying everyone is lying, yet NOT setting the record straight. What does that say about her personality?

So she'll openly call the CEO a liar, but then she doesn't have the balls to set the record straight. I don't get how people aren't seeing this angle. They just keep crying that Hwayoung is being picked on. But you know what? Hwayoung is the one with all the power here. She can easily go on twitter and tell her side. But she hasn't. Why? Most likely because the company really DOES have dirt on her.

At the very least, she could have cleared the rest of T-ara from the bullying accusations. She didn't. What does that say? If they really bullied her, it says that she's not a generous person and holds grudges. If they didn't bully her, then that's 1000x worse. In the end, I blame Hwayoung 100%. The other girls' tweets could have been about anything. Until Hwayoung decided to take to twitter and make sure everyone knew it was about her. What's that tell you about her personality?

The others didn't spread nasty rumors or anything like that. They said someone on the team lacks dedication and manners. What do you think that says? The fact that the majority of T-ara's founding members backed up Hyomin's statement is telling. The fact that the ONLY person speaking up for Hwayoung is her sister. Nobody else at that company? If the founding members were bullying and trying to kick out new members, I think it's they who would be the ones punished. Because I doubt KKS would like the girls taking power into their own hands and deciding who gets to stay and go. In fact, if that were the case, he'd probably kick out one of the founding members just to show who was in charge.

Shit don't add up. Netizens too busy freaking out because they got bullied themselves as kids so they want to go with that tardcake interpretation and rage hard to try to exorcise the demons of their own pasts. Pathetic imo.

On July 31 2012 03:45 .DrK wrote:
http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/t-aras-former-back-up-dancer-claims-jiyeon-once-slapped-hwayoung



more dramaaa

On July 31 2012 03:45 Wockets wrote:


To be frank, the girls could have clarified their stance while netizens were suspecting that they were talking about Hwayoung, but they didn't, so your point about their tweets being about anything is a little off.
Hwayoung's sister is also still under the hands of a subsidiary of CCM, so she's still under KKS's hands - thus she doesn't quite have as much power as you may think, and Hwayoung may have intentionally not clarified this for fear of getting her career destroyed. KKS is pretty powerful...

On July 31 2012 03:47 Requizen wrote:

Wow, if that's actually true, that's pretty fucking bad. But then again, that's about 75% of the girls I know as well.