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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 19:53:03
January 31 2012 19:52 GMT
#46421
Now that it's been discussed a bit I've been thinking about western girl and boygroups but which are there actually right now?

it's been long time since the glorious destiny's child, spice girls and backstreetboys eras and it might because Im not up to date with westenr music what are there bands that are the shit right now? I strangely can only think of solo artists and first band that popped into my mind was jonas brothers lol and I dont think they're even that succesful anymore.
Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
January 31 2012 19:55 GMT
#46422
Hello everybody, i would like to share and appreciate this month and the next 22 days with all of you by counting down the sexy rapper(goddess),Go Woori's 25th birthday. For the next 22 days i shall dedicate myself to posting something related to Go Woori and you can also do so to =).

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GO WOORI !!!<33333333333333

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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 31 2012 19:56 GMT
#46423
On February 01 2012 04:52 AsnSensation wrote:
Now that it's been discussed a bit I've been thinking about western girl and boygroups but which are there actually right now?

it's been long time since the glorious destiny's child, spice girls and backstreetboys eras and it might because Im not up to date with westenr music what are there bands that are the shit right now? I strangely can only think of solo artists and first band that popped into my mind was jonas brothers lol and I dont think they're even that succesful anymore.


Black Eyed Peas, but it's not a "traditional" group that has choreography and dances.
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 20:00:37
January 31 2012 19:59 GMT
#46424
I don't really think it's a problem, if you really look at it they could just do n sync and backstreet boy style. Justin Beiber seems to do well with that.

If life taught me one thing, it's that Asian men can get away with being metro-sexual while white (or any other race for that matter) guys are usually deemed extremely gay with it.

The popularity of Asians seems to be on a rise too. You've got pretty famous YouTube stars like Nigahiga, KevJumba, Chonny, and the two at JustKiddingFilms. There's also dance groups like Jabba, Quest Crew and Poreotics (Quest Crew and Poreotics both sport the Metro-sexual style). Far East Movement is also getting a huge amount of recognition.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 31 2012 20:19 GMT
#46425
On February 01 2012 00:22 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
miryo album disappointing. her voice aint suited to anchor or fast raps. her rapping style is more suited for slower raps where her flow stands out. the only good song is the one with sunny but sunny vocals just meh.

disappointed here as well.
and why would you get sunny to sing a weakass hook when you have all of BEG at your disposal?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 21:15:43
January 31 2012 21:00 GMT
#46426
On February 01 2012 04:55 Lokk wrote:
the sexy rapper(goddess)


On the subject of female idols rappers, I'm curious as to what is KMD thread opinions on female idols rappers ?

Poll: Female idols rappers, a good thing or should they just sing ?

I think that female idols rappers are a good addition to a group (31)
 
60%

I don't like girls rapping, they should just sing (21)
 
40%

52 total votes

Your vote: Female idols rappers, a good thing or should they just sing ?

(Vote): I think that female idols rappers are a good addition to a group
(Vote): I don't like girls rapping, they should just sing



And also...

Poll: imo, the best idol female rapper is...

Miryo (Brown Eyed Girls) (26)
 
31%

CL (2ne1) (16)
 
19%

Eunjung or Hyomin (T-Ara) (15)
 
18%

Woori (Rainbow) (8)
 
9%

Yubin (Wonder Girls) (5)
 
6%

Zinger (Secret) (4)
 
5%

Minzy (2ne1) (3)
 
4%

Nicole (KARA) (3)
 
4%

Hyuna (4minute) (2)
 
2%

Kahee (After School) (1)
 
1%

Bekah (After School) (1)
 
1%

Bora (Sistar) (1)
 
1%

85 total votes

Your vote: imo, the best idol female rapper is...

(Vote): CL (2ne1)
(Vote): Minzy (2ne1)
(Vote): Hyuna (4minute)
(Vote): Kahee (After School)
(Vote): Bekah (After School)
(Vote): Miryo (Brown Eyed Girls)
(Vote): Yubin (Wonder Girls)
(Vote): Nicole (KARA)
(Vote): Woori (Rainbow)
(Vote): Bora (Sistar)
(Vote): Zinger (Secret)
(Vote): Eunjung or Hyomin (T-Ara)



here's a video to help you decide if you're unsure


Personally, I can't say I'm a big fan of female rappers. Idol rapping is ??? I don't know how to describe it... It's basically not rap, it's just like their signing but in a different speed and tone. But idol singing has none of the characteristic of ''real rap''. So I can't say that I like idol rapping in general... I think it's very hard to bust out an ''idol rap'' part in a song without making it seem out of place and/or ruining the song. I think the one female idol rapper that screwed up the less song and therefore would be the best in my eyes is Miryo of the Brown Eyed Girls and obviously Nicole (who i voted for) but I'm well aware that I'm quite bias here. However I look at he raps closely, she also didn't ruin any song yet. Her opening of Lupin is an opening, it sets a pace, opens up the song and therefore can't ruin it. It's not great, far from it but at least it doesn't ruin the song and doesn't seem to out of place. In Honey her rap is really good in my opinion. If you look at it from a true rap/hip-hop perspective, obviously it sucks; no punchlines, multi syllables, easy rhyming, bad flow, etc. But from an ''idol rap'' point of view, in my opinion she nails it. It's cute, fit her voice well and compliments well the song (as in it's like she's still singing but with a different tone and speed to mix it up). Honey is imo the best example of what female idol rapping should be. (Feel free to prove me wrong or give other examples, i want to see what people think)
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 31 2012 21:05 GMT
#46427
On February 01 2012 04:48 hai2u wrote:
kpop guy groups would have an even harder time than girls. Girly guys is harder to sell in the U.S. than cute girls who can at least do sexy as well.

uuuh, no.

Bieber. Backstreet, nsync, 98 degrees, boys to men. It comes in phases, but there are a lot more boy bands/cutsey boys than girl groups.

The only girl group I can remember taking off in America was the spice girls. Britney, Christina, and Miley Cyrus all tried to get out of the "innocent girl" thing as fast as possible. Americans like divas. Just look at beyonce, adele, lady gaga.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
January 31 2012 21:17 GMT
#46428
You forget to put Baby J in your poll.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 31 2012 21:17 GMT
#46429
On February 01 2012 05:19 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 00:22 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
miryo album disappointing. her voice aint suited to anchor or fast raps. her rapping style is more suited for slower raps where her flow stands out. the only good song is the one with sunny but sunny vocals just meh.

disappointed here as well.
and why would you get sunny to sing a weakass hook when you have all of BEG at your disposal?

If you do that then only BEG fans in general would be listening, but now, lets put an SNSD member on that song, and you have all BEG + SONES. Not rocket science.
Woo Jung Ho
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
January 31 2012 21:19 GMT
#46430
On February 01 2012 06:17 MethodSC wrote:
You forget to put Baby J in your poll.

Yes, I ran out of poll options, maximum is 12, had to put Eunjung and Hyomin together too...
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 21:26:15
January 31 2012 21:21 GMT
#46431
How are CL and nicole rappers. also how does hyomin and eunjung even get one vote, they are awful at it.

*edit* fair enough.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
January 31 2012 21:22 GMT
#46432
Since when do polls about idols have anything to do with actual singing ability.
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Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 21:25:04
January 31 2012 21:24 GMT
#46433
On February 01 2012 06:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:48 hai2u wrote:
kpop guy groups would have an even harder time than girls. Girly guys is harder to sell in the U.S. than cute girls who can at least do sexy as well.

uuuh, no.

Bieber. Backstreet, nsync, 98 degrees, boys to men. It comes in phases, but there are a lot more boy bands/cutsey boys than girl groups.

The only girl group I can remember taking off in America was the spice girls. Britney, Christina, and Miley Cyrus all tried to get out of the "innocent girl" thing as fast as possible. Americans like divas. Just look at beyonce, adele, lady gaga.


As mentioned already...Asian males in general can pull off...pardon me..."homo/pretty boy" concept better than any White male. White does it = OMG BURN HIM AT STAKE! Asian does it = OMG THAT IS SO WEIRD, BUT I LOVE IT.

I could be wrong as I don't follow this stuff...but look at Justin Bieber...where else did he get that "omg he's so gay" image about him? (although most haters are just jealous, but I don't really think he's talented or anything...just one of the few teenage idols for the many teenage fangirls...)

Bring Shinee into US debut (I think their english sucks even more than other notables, but let's ignore that) , few weeks of awkwardness, but I am sure there will be rabid fangirls all over them (well I guess there are already...)

@Tu: WHAR IS EVERYONE'S FAVOURITE? AMBER?!
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
January 31 2012 21:27 GMT
#46434
I just wanna know how the fuck Woori is leading that poll. I mean seriously, Woori? Really?
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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 21:29:58
January 31 2012 21:27 GMT
#46435
On February 01 2012 06:21 TunaBarrett wrote:
How are CL and nicole rappers. also how does hyomin and eunjung even get one vote, they are awful at it.

*edit* fair enough.


They are considered rappers if you ever read their profile on official websites or in CD booklets or whatever. That's their ''position'' even tho some of them don't end up rapping a whole lot.

On February 01 2012 06:27 Demizzle wrote:
I just wanna know how the fuck Woori is leading that poll. I mean seriously, Woori? Really?


I also would like people to explain why they vote for someone in particular as I'm just curious, but at the same time, no need to bash the people voting... Remember that music is subjective, especially in KPop...
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
January 31 2012 21:28 GMT
#46436
On February 01 2012 06:21 TunaBarrett wrote:
How are CL and nicole rappers. also how does hyomin and eunjung even get one vote, they are awful at it.


Agree! CL shouldn't be put into the same category, she's beyond rapper she's swag personified lol.

And Nicole oh poor Nicole, only 1 vote...
Kamatari
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 21:32:45
January 31 2012 21:28 GMT
#46437
I dont think that there are great rappers in girls groups,just the ones that suck and the ones that do a good job.

I would probably vote for KMK or Miryo

CL shouldn't count, blackjacks would automatically rigged the poll with no real discussion.

CL also had "beyonce" in one of her raps :/
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
January 31 2012 21:30 GMT
#46438
Most idol "rappers" seem to be just members that they wanted because of their looks or dancing ability but who lacked singing ability. I think the only ones that can be considered actual rappers in that list are CL and Miryo. Miryo is a respected female rapper, and she has the respect of Kpop rappers, including some from the Movement Crew. CL auditioned as a rapper for YG and has shown her rapping ability beyond 2NE1 songs. Zinger may be one too, but I don't know much about her.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 31 2012 21:30 GMT
#46439
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 01 2012 06:00 TuElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:55 Lokk wrote:
the sexy rapper(goddess)


On the subject of female idols rappers, I'm curious as to what is KMD thread opinions on female idols rappers ?

Poll: Female idols rappers, a good thing or should they just sing ?

I think that female idols rappers are a good addition to a group (31)
 
60%

I don't like girls rapping, they should just sing (21)
 
40%

52 total votes

Your vote: Female idols rappers, a good thing or should they just sing ?

(Vote): I think that female idols rappers are a good addition to a group
(Vote): I don't like girls rapping, they should just sing



And also...

Poll: imo, the best idol female rapper is...

Miryo (Brown Eyed Girls) (26)
 
31%

CL (2ne1) (16)
 
19%

Eunjung or Hyomin (T-Ara) (15)
 
18%

Woori (Rainbow) (8)
 
9%

Yubin (Wonder Girls) (5)
 
6%

Zinger (Secret) (4)
 
5%

Minzy (2ne1) (3)
 
4%

Nicole (KARA) (3)
 
4%

Hyuna (4minute) (2)
 
2%

Kahee (After School) (1)
 
1%

Bekah (After School) (1)
 
1%

Bora (Sistar) (1)
 
1%

85 total votes

Your vote: imo, the best idol female rapper is...

(Vote): CL (2ne1)
(Vote): Minzy (2ne1)
(Vote): Hyuna (4minute)
(Vote): Kahee (After School)
(Vote): Bekah (After School)
(Vote): Miryo (Brown Eyed Girls)
(Vote): Yubin (Wonder Girls)
(Vote): Nicole (KARA)
(Vote): Woori (Rainbow)
(Vote): Bora (Sistar)
(Vote): Zinger (Secret)
(Vote): Eunjung or Hyomin (T-Ara)



here's a video to help you decide if you're unsure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiG4qyVPNrA

Personally, I can't say I'm a big fan of female rappers. Idol rapping is ??? I don't know how to describe it... It's basically not rap, it's just like their signing but in a different speed and tone. But idol singing has none of the characteristic of ''real rap''. So I can't say that I like idol rapping in general... I think it's very hard to bust out an ''idol rap'' part in a song without making it seem out of place and/or ruining the song. I think the one female idol rapper that screwed up the less song and therefore would be the best in my eyes is Miryo of the Brown Eyed Girls and obviously Nicole (who i voted for) but I'm well aware that I'm quite bias here. However I look at he raps closely, she also didn't ruin any song yet. Her opening of Lupin is an opening, it sets a pace, opens up the song and therefore can't ruin it. It's not great, far from it but at least it doesn't ruin the song and doesn't seem to out of place. In Honey her rap is really good in my opinion. If you look at it from a true rap/hip-hop perspective, obviously it sucks; no punchlines, multi syllables, easy rhyming, bad flow, etc. But from an ''idol rap'' point of view, in my opinion she nails it. It's cute, fit her voice well and compliments well the song (as in it's like she's still singing but with a different tone and speed to mix it up). Honey is imo the best example of what female idol rapping should be. (Feel free to prove me wrong or give other examples, i want to see what people think)



out of your choices it's got to be Miryo and then CL. Until recently I actually thought that male rappers in idol groups are decent at their job, like taecyon for example. But when Yoon Mi Rae came out during the one hip hop stage and slayed those idol " rappers". She, Gary and Dynamic Duo really showed those kids how it's done.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
January 31 2012 21:32 GMT
#46440
I can't think of any Kpop song that got better with a rap.

Collaborations are smthg different (Song Ji Eun's Going Crazy, TTL, etc.). But I really don't think I can think of a song which didn't get dragged down by a rap sequence. Neither does it usually fit the style of the song nor is any of the idol groups really proficient in rapping.

Male groups might be another story.
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