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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 31 2012 18:22 GMT
#46401
On February 01 2012 03:20 zeru wrote:
If they sing the boys english version live it would be the worst choice ever. ~.~


They don't have any other English songs IIRC
KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
January 31 2012 18:29 GMT
#46402
On February 01 2012 03:22 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 03:20 zeru wrote:
If they sing the boys english version live it would be the worst choice ever. ~.~


They don't have any other English songs IIRC


And I sure as fuck hope it stays that way. America please laugh at them.

There's Diamond I guess, obviously would be the better choice but they're a month+ late for that.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
January 31 2012 18:33 GMT
#46403
Meh I'm so sad no1 knows the HerO stream song ;'(

On the bright side, Miryo ft. Sunny so imba good.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 18:41:54
January 31 2012 18:41 GMT
#46404
On February 01 2012 02:58 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 02:53 chiwawa wrote:
On February 01 2012 02:47 unichan wrote:
a lot of guys i know watch make up videos, not gay or w/e, they like to look at girls
nbd


On February 01 2012 02:19 Hirmu wrote:
Since people talked so much about dream high s2
http://www.kshownow.net/2012/02/dream-high-season-2-episode-1-english_01.html
you are welcome

chi says kshownow sux so i believe him!


On February 01 2012 02:45 TunaBarrett wrote:
Im going to feel embarrassed when i watch them thats for sure. Without any intention on shitting on the group i really cant see it going good :E

I hope they do well because I don't want to read thousands of posts nitpicking everything they do wrong and thousands of posts defending them

You're a noob that wants hardsubs. go for kshownow and you'll be satisfied.

And about Letterman tonight, it'll probably not be that great. My only hope is that it's not disastrous and they have a decent interview or something.

nah i'll wait for that DARKSMURF site you showed me, am i supposed to wait for the QC edited or something? having a general idea of whats going on is usually enough for me but sometimes i get those weird sentences that make no sense.

darksmurf subs arent really that great, the written english is much better in kshown
they are really fast sometimes tho, which i appreciate
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 18:49:23
January 31 2012 18:46 GMT
#46405
On February 01 2012 02:58 unichan wrote:
nah i'll wait for that DARKSMURF site you showed me, am i supposed to wait for the QC edited or something? having a general idea of whats going on is usually enough for me but sometimes i get those weird sentences that make no sense.


I'm actually helping out with the editing. No worries though because some lines have no need to be edited (and therefore don't count towards the 100% completion). Simply because most editors are not "verified" we can't mark them as done. Kind of annoying

Right now there is very few to be edited as the last ~20% is not yet translated and the rest is looking fine.

On February 01 2012 02:19 Hirmu wrote:
darksmurf subs arent really that great, the written english is much better in kshown


Gotta agree. This is the first time me contributing towards subs. But they have some pretty bad english sentences in there (Which I fixed, duh!)
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
January 31 2012 18:47 GMT
#46406
On February 01 2012 03:17 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 03:12 unichan wrote:
On February 01 2012 03:10 kakaman wrote:
I'm excited/anxious to see the Letterman performance! An SNSD performance with actually good camera work? Yes please!

I think there will be a short interview for Kelly's show, she usually interacts with the bands. Letterman just plugs the CD and lets them sing.

so i don't get my earthquake and hurricane cams? :'(

Everyone in this thread seems resigned that SNSD will be singing The Boys. Is this true? ): ): God I hope not.


What else would they sing? I mean while gee is 100 times better it would be just as retarded and the american audience would be just as *WTF* at that, well probably more but still.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
January 31 2012 18:54 GMT
#46407
On February 01 2012 03:46 Kaiwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 02:58 unichan wrote:
nah i'll wait for that DARKSMURF site you showed me, am i supposed to wait for the QC edited or something? having a general idea of whats going on is usually enough for me but sometimes i get those weird sentences that make no sense.


I'm actually helping out with the editing. No worries though because some lines have no need to be edited (and therefore don't count towards the 100% completion). Simply because most editors are not "verified" we can't mark them as done. Kind of annoying

Right now there is very few to be edited as the last ~20% is not yet translated and the rest is looking fine.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 02:19 Hirmu wrote:
darksmurf subs arent really that great, the written english is much better in kshown


Gotta agree. This is the first time me contributing towards subs. But they have some pretty bad english sentences in there (Which I fixed, duh!)

tite i get to watch subs with the touch of kaiwa
:)
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
January 31 2012 18:54 GMT
#46408
Omo, Secret crying... I can't handle this :< Such perfect souls should never be sad... It's making me sad

Good song though :'(
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
January 31 2012 18:57 GMT
#46409
Now that everyone pretty agrees that girls groups should never set foot on America ever again, what do you guys think of the newer guy groups' chances at success in the US? Obviously JYJ never got anywhere, but I think that was more because of epic fail songs/video/promotion/Kanye West wtf than a statement about their overall level of appeal.
powerade = dragoon blood
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 31 2012 19:00 GMT
#46410
On February 01 2012 03:57 chenchen wrote:
Now that everyone pretty agrees that girls groups should never set foot on America ever again, what do you guys think of the newer guy groups' chances at success in the US? Obviously JYJ never got anywhere, but I think that was more because of epic fail songs/video/promotion/Kanye West wtf than a statement about their overall level of appeal.


Where did you come up with this consensus?
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
January 31 2012 19:03 GMT
#46411
On February 01 2012 04:00 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 03:57 chenchen wrote:
Now that everyone pretty agrees that girls groups should never set foot on America ever again, what do you guys think of the newer guy groups' chances at success in the US? Obviously JYJ never got anywhere, but I think that was more because of epic fail songs/video/promotion/Kanye West wtf than a statement about their overall level of appeal.


Where did you come up with this consensus?


It was both epic fail song and epic fail appeal. No one in America likes girly guys. Also, SNSD will most likely fail because in America we like girls with attitude (Beyonce, Kelly Clarkson, etc.) vs. the aegyo girls Koreans love.
LasTLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States428 Posts
January 31 2012 19:05 GMT
#46412
I like Miryo's album. Really good songs. Especially her song with Sunny. Es gud stuff.
"[21:01] kjwcj: i wanna put an aftermarket heatsink on your northbridge, lastlie" http://twitter.com/ThatGuyLastly
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 31 2012 19:08 GMT
#46413
On February 01 2012 04:03 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 04:00 Fawkes wrote:
On February 01 2012 03:57 chenchen wrote:
Now that everyone pretty agrees that girls groups should never set foot on America ever again, what do you guys think of the newer guy groups' chances at success in the US? Obviously JYJ never got anywhere, but I think that was more because of epic fail songs/video/promotion/Kanye West wtf than a statement about their overall level of appeal.


Where did you come up with this consensus?


It was both epic fail song and epic fail appeal. No one in America likes girly guys. Also, SNSD will most likely fail because in America we like girls with attitude (Beyonce, Kelly Clarkson, etc.) vs. the aegyo girls Koreans love.


We do? Then again...maybe that's why I don't follow Western stuff...
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
January 31 2012 19:09 GMT
#46414
Yeah Americans aren't very big on the cute things. I mean, cute men are "cute" in the way little boys are "cute". Same with girls.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 19:18:26
January 31 2012 19:16 GMT
#46415
Being cute sets them back three steps on the emancipation ladder.

This and them not speaking English (apart from the obvious members) and smiling to everything will make them look somewhere in between dumb and unprogressive in the eyes of the western spectator.
Always smile~
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 31 2012 19:23 GMT
#46416
To me, there's like three different types of female entertainers in America...there's the attitude ones and I suppose Beyonce fits under this. Then there's the crazy and outstanding such as Lady Gaga..which remind me of 2NE1, then there's the neutral who I think Taylor Swift fits under. I can't really see any female group doing attitude (maybe Miss A or KARA?), I think the most realistic chance of anybody surviving in the Western scene would involve them being themselves, minus the cute concepts and don't try to be badasses with attitude.

Just make a silent bang into the Western music industry like Swift!
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
January 31 2012 19:29 GMT
#46417
I seriously doubt SNSD is going to use their cute image to break into America, nobody at SM is stupid enough to let them do so.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 31 2012 19:29 GMT
#46418
On February 01 2012 03:57 chenchen wrote:
Now that everyone pretty agrees that girls groups should never set foot on America ever again, what do you guys think of the newer guy groups' chances at success in the US? Obviously JYJ never got anywhere, but I think that was more because of epic fail songs/video/promotion/Kanye West wtf than a statement about their overall level of appeal.


I honestly think only out of all the current idol groups, only BIGBANG ( heavy western influenced music) and 2NE! ( no cutesy and heavy Will I Am Hype) can break into the mainstream us/western market.

Perhaps even DBSK but please don't start with groups like shinee, teen top or infinite...

Kpop wil probably stay a niche product with little things like SmTown, CubeUnited or an eventual YG Fam Concert few times a year but it will be difficult for GG and WG to establish themselfes.

The Kpop fanbase has grown significantly the last 2-3 years though.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 31 2012 19:30 GMT
#46419
I don't think it's supposed to get American to fall in love with SNSD. It's more of a... hey... we're SNSD... now you've heard of us kind of thing.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 19:49:32
January 31 2012 19:48 GMT
#46420
kpop guy groups would have an even harder time than girls. Girly guys is harder to sell in the U.S. than cute girls who can at least do sexy as well.
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