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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 19 2011 04:46 GMT
#34901
Btw, if you guys really wanna check out god tier.

LJY in After School's Ah Promotion cycle. Hella god tier right there.
God Bless
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 19 2011 04:46 GMT
#34902
Lol I can't really argue tier lists. I said I would switch girl's day and after school but I actually just love all the groups. I just love most of the groups more than I love after school.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
October 19 2011 04:55 GMT
#34903
I'd do a tier list but it's pretty short. 1. SNSD 2. Secret, T-ara, BEG, 2NE1 3. Everyone else
TVXQ is in 2. but I think we aren't doing guy groups lol
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Renjazu
Profile Joined October 2011
31 Posts
October 19 2011 05:09 GMT
#34904
On October 19 2011 13:55 Moonwrath wrote:
I'd do a tier list but it's pretty short. 1. SNSD 2. Secret, T-ara, BEG, 2NE1 3. Everyone else
TVXQ is in 2. but I think we aren't doing guy groups lol

You're a SONE, therefore your argument is invalid.

Now have some more Woori:

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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
October 19 2011 05:29 GMT
#34905
He wasn't even making an argument
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
October 19 2011 05:30 GMT
#34906
On October 19 2011 13:11 Roffles wrote:
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On October 19 2011 12:36 TuElite wrote:
Roffles, how bout u do ur tier list so we can see exactly who you ''do not hate''

Just for you bro, I make my own tier list. Due to popular demand, I have decided to compile a running tier list so that I can prove to haters that I'm not really a hater. PS: If I missed any relevant groups, please tell me so I can add them to the bottom next time.

This list will compile all the relevant girl groups (because I don't give a fuck about gay guy groups) into tiers that I will later explain in this post. This takes into account recent performance and releases, as well as activity and popularity, mixed with a huge dosage of hatred and bias towards certain groups. This isn't about who the fuck you like, it's about who I think has decent songs, look decent, and have actually done something worthwhile as of late. This will revolve around whether or not I think a song is decent, as well as whether or not I think the members in each group look like hideous trolls.

My advice to you people reading this list is to realize that this will conflict with a majority of your tier lists out there because I'm not a SNSD loving dumbass. Thus don't rage at me. Rage at yourselves. Just remember, this is just an opinion. Take it with a grain of salt and don't rage at me because you disagree.

* Tier 1: Secret, T-ara, After School, Miss A, Sistar
* Tier 2: Rainbow, 4Minute, F(x), Kara, 2NE1
* Tier 3: SNSD, Wonder Girls, Girls Day, BEG, 5 Dolls
* Tier 4: Jewelry, A Pink, Rania, Dal Shabet

Tier 1: These groups are at the top because they've been around as of late and have produced some decent songs while looking alright.
Tier 2: These groups are like Tier 1 groups, but are missing an aspect, whether it's been a lack of decent songs, or a lack of good visuals while on stage.
Tier 3: These groups have either been inactive or just have been flat out disappointing as of late.
Tier 4: These groups fucking suck.

Changes/Notables:
Secret - Tops Tier 1 because of stunning visuals as well as I guess some decent songs as of late. Haven't been exactly wowing, but very consistent, and hasn't really trolled me for a while.

T-ara - Takes a back seat to Secret because of fucking trolls such as the 2 foot garden gnome and the ugly ass twin sister who can't fucking rap to save her life. Last concept of Roly Poly was pretty decent, and aside from some bad sweatpants on stage, the visuals were pretty good too.

Sistar - Rounds out Tier 1 because of great songs, and absolutely amazing visuals if you look below the fucking neck. If the group didn't rely on one person as much as they did, Sistar would probably get a bump up, but dem butterfaces man.

Kara - For some, this might come as a shock, but their recent songs have been very lackluster, and their short promo cycles and inactivity in the Korean market bump them below other groups in the same situation.

2NE1 - Rounds out Tier 2 due to having some decent songs, but having a complete troll group. Their idea and concepts are different, which is why I give bonus points keeping them out of Tier 3.

SNSD - Makes Tier 3 because their songs are fucking awful. Haven't churned out a good song in over a year, and their concepts and visuals get worse and worse with each promo cycle. Jump ship IMO.

BEG - Having a decent promotion cycle as I type this, which should vault them a few slots in the next edition (if I ever make one of these again), but still at the end of the day, their average age is like 90 and they're old as fuck and one of them looks like a vampire.

Dal Shabet - Absolutely the worst group in all of KPop right now. Hands down will be at the bottom of every tier list until I find someone else to rag on about.

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I make new tier list for individuals later on. I give you something to talk about for the time being

Roffles, you are the most fking awesome man out there for k-pop review.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 05:37:10
October 19 2011 05:31 GMT
#34907
Tier 1: T-ARA, 2NE1, Girl's Day
Tier 2: miss A, Sistar, Secret, Rainbow, After School, Davichi
Tier 3: BEG, G.NA, IU, SNSD, Kara, 4minute, Dal Shabet, Orange Caramel
Tier 4: Nine Muses, Chocolat, f(x)

T-ARA - They are all attractive, but Hwayoung sucks at rapping. But their 1st album is amazing.
2NE1 - I like their style of music and pretty much all the songs they put out.
Girl's Day - I have a great love for Sojin and Nothing Lasts Forever and MICHYEO HEY!
miss A - They're all hot, they can ALL sing and dance. No one is deadweight in this group
Secret - They look healthy
After School - Group of fucking models omg
Davichi - Not a huge fan of ballads, but their voices are very pretty
BEG - ehh I only heard sixth sense and I don't really like abracadabra
SNSD - I like them but their overratedness makes me like them less. Plus I hate how all of the girls look except Jessica.
Kara - This is kind of high for me, but I like Hara a lot (City Hunter!!). Their songs are so meh and their voices all suck.
4minute - No one cares about anyone but Hyuna.
f(x) - fuck amber


i like guy groups but there's no point making a tier list here
:)
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
October 19 2011 05:33 GMT
#34908
Come on son, get on this level
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 05:38:11
October 19 2011 05:35 GMT
#34909
Why post anything other than Sica Fany Taeng srs they are the only good ones.

PS. More Sica Fany Taeng

PPS.Yoona too
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 06:11:32
October 19 2011 05:37 GMT
#34910
Hyoyeon looks surprisingly not hideous

rerank snsd

1. sica - alwaise my #1
2. yoona - was #4, but the other ones have moved down
3. taeng - wtf that wavy hair no.
4. tiffany - i dunno. looks better than the rest i guess.
5. seohyun - puffy cheeks better than others.
6. yuri - no.
7. sooyoung - skinny and ugly face.
8. hyoyeon - ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
9. sunny - moved down from #8, she is now the man of snsd, not fany anymore

edit - adding reasons
:)
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
October 19 2011 05:41 GMT
#34911
Hyoyeon doesn't look creepy with her smile for once... Tiffany, Seohyun, Yoona, Yuri, Jessica are gorgeous as always (but i'm just being biased here). The only bad picture is Bieber's one. What is he doing in SNSD anyways? And with a red dress? Come on...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 19 2011 05:43 GMT
#34912
WTF is sooyoung wearing. Where are the legs???
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 06:01:15
October 19 2011 05:52 GMT
#34913
On October 19 2011 14:37 unichan wrote:
Hyoyeon looks surprisingly not hideous

I can get behind this statement. Guess everyone's gonna have one good picture out of several thousands.

Doing a tier list cause I have nothing better to do other than write two papers, right?

Tier 1: Davichi, T-ara, Secret, Rainbow
Tier 2: After School, IU (not a group but hey), Miss A, A Pink, Sistar
Tier 3: 4minute, f(x), Rania, Kara, Dal Shabet, BEG
Tier 4: SNSD, 2ne1, everyone else cause if I can't remember you you're probably terrible.
Tier4 gonna get me some hate but idc.

Tier 1: Davichi- both very attractive, both can sing, have great songs. What more can you ask for?

T-ara- I ignore Hwayoung, Boram is cute, everyone else is hot. Songs aren't that great but I don't like T-ara for their songs I like them for their myriad sexy/cute endorsements and dramas and other shit

Secret- Everyone looks great, Zinger is average. Used to be very down on her but she looked ok in the most recent MV. Songs are great, they are one of the few groups who have a noticeable music style (retro ish)

Rainbow- Jaekyung Woori Ji Sook Seung Ah, abs.

Tier 2: After School- Kahi Jungah Jooyeon Nana Lizzy people I don't care about. Songs are average- listenable but not anything I particularly like.

IU- not the best in terms of looks/sexual appeal but she's very cute/attractive for some reason despite that. Sings well, good songs.

Miss A- Don't like any of them in particular but the songs are good and none of their looks are offensive.

A Pink- cute and their debut song was the shit. One of the few kpop songs that I genuinely like as songs.

Sistar- good vocals, good bodies, shame about the faces on most of them though.

Tier 3: 4minute- HyunA and bubble pop carry, everyone else can be ignored cause Cube and the cameras on live shows seem to do it anyway.

f(x)- don't like their songs for the most part, but aren't offensively bad. Victoria good at times, Krystal good at times when not bitchfacing. Sulli good at times. Luna and Amber gross.

Rania- Sexy debut song, forgettable otherwise. Think it was Joy (?) that I thought was cute. The fact that I don't know their names is telling.

Kara- Before and after mister everything was shit. Sunghee was good but left. Hara looks ok but moves awkwardly and is too damn skinny. Jiyoung used to be good but looks weird now. Don't like Nicole HSY Gyuri. No one can sing.

Dal Shabet- Supa Dupa Diba was good, one or two of them are cute, otherwise meh.

BEG- generally good songs, especially the comeback one. Good vocals. Everyone in that group is too old and ugly.

WG- good songs, everyone in that group is gross looking though. Sohee can look good but she needs the right angle and makeup. Songs were above average though which is why they're not tier 4.

Tier 4- Everyone else- too many girl groups, too much shit.
SNSD- like ITNW, Gee, everything else was bad. Looks deteriorated since Gee days, Yuri looks ok when not crypting, yoona is great until you notice how cryptlike she is, Seohyun is angle/makeup/scene dependant.

2ne1- CL is gross, Bom is gross and plastic, Minzy is ok, don't like Dara. Absolutely can't stand the songs, especially recently. I don't care was ok. Everything else was pretty bad. Can't stand the fake ganster attitude. Can't stand the overproduction. Can't stand the autotune. If we were going down to 5 tiers they would be there.

edit- forgot BEG, and not cause they're shit. Woops.
double- forgot WG as well, not promoting. Woops again.

triple- if I had to do guys, my criteria would be more song and dance based, I admit. Would go something like
1- B2st
2- Big Bang
3- CN Blue
4- 2am
5 2pm
6 everyone else.
chiwawa
Profile Joined April 2011
330 Posts
October 19 2011 06:02 GMT
#34914
On October 19 2011 14:37 unichan wrote:
Hyoyeon looks surprisingly not hideous

rerank snsd
1. sica

I can fully support your 1st choice.
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UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 06:10:47
October 19 2011 06:08 GMT
#34915
dayum at the horrible list and reasoning

your hatred for "wannabe" gangster is hilarious lmao

your not a fan of hip hop/rap we get it
i be that pretty motherfucker
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 06:11:44
October 19 2011 06:11 GMT
#34916
On October 19 2011 15:08 UrASofty wrote:
dayum at the horrible list and reasoning

your hatred for "wannabe" gangster is hilarious lmao

your not a fan of hip hop/rap we get it

No I am, I like Big Bang, Epik High, all that shit, and American rap (or some of it anyway), just doesn't fit right with 2ne1.
edit- and I'm sorry I don't like the shit you like, different opinions no?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6221 Posts
October 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#34917
I just went through a lot of the last hundred pages or so of the thread. Quick question, is K-Pop meant to be listened to via the music video? It seems that I lose so much by just listening to the song regardless of how good the song is =/............... Especially the legs.
entocheets
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia367 Posts
October 19 2011 06:35 GMT
#34918
MVs and performances are all part of the whole K-pop experience, IMO.
I guess it really depends on what music you're listening to... for example IMO you'd probably get the most out of Davichi by listening to their music (although you'd be missing out on dem dimples), while on the other hand you'd be experiencing Orange Caramel the best by watching their MVs or live performances.
##creepers 4 lyf
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
October 19 2011 06:36 GMT
#34919
not gonna make a tier list but after school #1
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 19 2011 06:38 GMT
#34920
On October 19 2011 15:35 entocheets wrote:
MVs and performances are all part of the whole K-pop experience, IMO.
I guess it really depends on what music you're listening to... for example IMO you'd probably get the most out of Davichi by listening to their music (although you'd be missing out on dem dimples), while on the other hand you'd be experiencing Orange Caramel the best by watching their MVs or live performances.

I think Davichi and 2am to an extent are the exception though, cause they literally just stand there and sing. Everyone else has a slick, well-performed dance routine and hey, cute girls enhance anything.
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