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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:25:06
October 19 2011 04:18 GMT
#34881
Interesting, I was expecting something different.

Group wise I agree with you on almost everything (would have swapped After School with KARA, Step album is good yo).

Edit: Fuck page top, will find something brb.

Aight, since I ranked HSY godtier, here's my explanation

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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 19 2011 04:18 GMT
#34882
No, Kara sucks. No one in that group can actually sing, and their songs are very underwhelming.
God Bless
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:23:25
October 19 2011 04:19 GMT
#34883
On October 19 2011 13:11 Roffles wrote:
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On October 19 2011 12:36 TuElite wrote:
Roffles, how bout u do ur tier list so we can see exactly who you ''do not hate''

Just for you bro, I make my own tier list. Due to popular demand, I have decided to compile a running tier list so that I can prove to haters that I'm not really a hater. PS: If I missed any relevant groups, please tell me so I can add them to the bottom next time.

This list will compile all the relevant girl groups (because I don't give a fuck about gay guy groups) into tiers that I will later explain in this post. This takes into account recent performance and releases, as well as activity and popularity, mixed with a huge dosage of hatred and bias towards certain groups. This isn't about who the fuck you like, it's about who I think has decent songs, look decent, and have actually done something worthwhile as of late. This will revolve around whether or not I think a song is decent, as well as whether or not I think the members in each group look like hideous trolls.

My advice to you people reading this list is to realize that this will conflict with a majority of your tier lists out there because I'm not a SNSD loving dumbass. Thus don't rage at me. Rage at yourselves. Just remember, this is just an opinion. Take it with a grain of salt and don't rage at me because you disagree.

* Tier 1: Secret, T-ara, After School, Miss A, Sistar
* Tier 2: Rainbow, 4Minute, F(x), Kara, 2NE1
* Tier 3: SNSD, Wonder Girls, Girls Day, BEG, 5 Dolls
* Tier 4: Jewelry, A Pink, Rania, Dal Shabet

Tier 1: These groups are at the top because they've been around as of late and have produced some decent songs while looking alright.
Tier 2: These groups are like Tier 1 groups, but are missing an aspect, whether it's been a lack of decent songs, or a lack of good visuals while on stage.
Tier 3: These groups have either been inactive or just have been flat out disappointing as of late.
Tier 4: These groups fucking suck.

Changes/Notables:
Secret - Tops Tier 1 because of stunning visuals as well as I guess some decent songs as of late. Haven't been exactly wowing, but very consistent, and hasn't really trolled me for a while.

T-ara - Takes a back seat to Secret because of fucking trolls such as the 2 foot garden gnome and the ugly ass twin sister who can't fucking rap to save her life. Last concept of Roly Poly was pretty decent, and aside from some bad sweatpants on stage, the visuals were pretty good too.

Sistar - Rounds out Tier 1 because of great songs, and absolutely amazing visuals if you look below the fucking neck. If the group didn't rely on one person as much as they did, Sistar would probably get a bump up, but dem butterfaces man.

Kara - For some, this might come as a shock, but their recent songs have been very lackluster, and their short promo cycles and inactivity in the Korean market bump them below other groups in the same situation.

2NE1 - Rounds out Tier 2 due to having some decent songs, but having a complete troll group. Their idea and concepts are different, which is why I give bonus points keeping them out of Tier 3.

SNSD - Makes Tier 3 because their songs are fucking awful. Haven't churned out a good song in over a year, and their concepts and visuals get worse and worse with each promo cycle. Jump ship IMO.

BEG - Having a decent promotion cycle as I type this, which should vault them a few slots in the next edition (if I ever make one of these again), but still at the end of the day, their average age is like 90 and they're old as fuck and one of them looks like a vampire.

Dal Shabet - Absolutely the worst group in all of KPop right now. Hands down will be at the bottom of every tier list until I find someone else to rag on about.

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I make new tier list for individuals later on. I give you something to talk about for the time being

I approve of this tier list, not only cause I agree with some/most of it but also cause this post has more effort than most other tier lists, which begin with a list of names and end with "CAUSE ITS OBVIOUS RIGHT SNSD NUMBER ONE!!!one11!!!

Would be curious to know why Rainbow is tier 2 though. Would be guessing Yoon Hye and probably a lack of a really good song.

edit- Don't know why AS is that high up there though, especially if you're looking at recent releases. Thought Red/blue releases were underwhelming, although Shampoo was ok.

Also agree on KARA. I think that HSY can sometimes look ok (and sometimes look like a troll) and I like Hara, but you're right in that they can't really sing. Got lucky with dat ass dance.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#34884
I actually whole-heartedly agree with the Tier 1 and 2 of Roffles, except for 2ne1. Personal bias just won't let them get out of shit tier with Dara. Kick Dara out, then I'm okay with them. I don't like people liking on the group just because one of their members was a shit-tier aegyo-type idol in one's country a few years ago.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:31:53
October 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#34885
After listening and watching new Snsd mv. I don't mind it that much. Only big parts I guess could have been better is the chorus which I feel seems out of place, the "rapping" parts with drum, the gg actually too, and some of the outfits and hair styles look weird such as Seohyun's. But I thought some of the mv looked nice. Just I guess why everyone is against it is because of Snsd's name value. They just expect more from them.
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"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#34886
Cause Rainbow has numerous trolls, and haven't come out with anything good as of late. Too much invested in the Japanese market = long breaks with no songs, and their songs are kinda lackluster too. Suffers from the Kara syndrome too in the fact that there's not one single person that can really carry the group. But I give bonus points for shirt lifts okay?
God Bless
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 19 2011 04:25 GMT
#34887
On October 19 2011 13:22 Ciryandor wrote:
I actually whole-heartedly agree with the Tier 1 and 2 of Roffles, except for 2ne1. Personal bias just won't let them get out of shit tier with Dara. Kick Dara out, then I'm okay with them. I don't like people liking on the group just because one of their members was a shit-tier aegyo-type idol in one's country a few years ago.

I just don't like the whole "badass" concept and how obviously fake it looks; obviously all kpop concepts are fake but with YG they don't change them, and it looks dumb to have 4 sub 100 pound young girls talking about being gangster as shit. I realize it's personal preference though.


On October 19 2011 13:22 Roffles wrote:
Cause Rainbow has numerous trolls, and haven't come out with anything good as of late. Too much invested in the Japanese market = long breaks with no songs, and their songs are kinda lackluster too. Suffers from the Kara syndrome too in the fact that there's not one single person that can really carry the group. But I give bonus points for shirt lifts okay?

Other than YoonHye, maybe No Eul I'm cool with all of them but ok. I know Ji Sook is controversial.
If you're only talking about Korean songs then I kind of agree; their songs are ok but not spectacular. Thought that the Japanese version of A was easily the best Japanese debut song though.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 19 2011 04:31 GMT
#34888
I would switch Girl's Day and After School in that list. Girl's Day has amazing songs and all look great. I also understand SNSD being tier 3 based off recent stuff but I think history should matter too.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 19 2011 04:34 GMT
#34889
On October 19 2011 13:31 DEN1ED wrote:
I would switch Girl's Day and After School in that list. Girl's Day has amazing songs and all look great. I also understand SNSD being tier 3 based off recent stuff but I think history should matter too.

??

Are you kidding me? Fucking After School is completely fucking composed of race car models with some fucking gorgeous legs. Lots of activity from them (subgroups), and some decent concepts and fucking amazing visuals (minus Michael Jackson's nose) definitely merit them a slot up there.

Girl's Day on the other hand has like the same fucking cutesy bullshit concepts and are fucking meh. There's a troll that can't open her eyes on stage and it really fucking pisses me off looking at her.
God Bless
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 19 2011 04:36 GMT
#34890
I like minah though...and she can sing...and she looks good when she's not acting cute...and when she does act cute it's cute....and
godammit
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:40:25
October 19 2011 04:37 GMT
#34891
every girls day song post-nothing last's forever is the same with lyrics and composition mixed around slightly

the only thing saving them is YURA
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 19 2011 04:39 GMT
#34892
Yura and Sojin do have nice figures though.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 19 2011 04:39 GMT
#34893
I would have to agree that Girl's Day songs are pretty terrible... After School on the other hand not only have decent to amazing songs but most of them are also amazingly hot.
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
October 19 2011 04:39 GMT
#34894
u could have just said boobs
i be that pretty motherfucker
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
October 19 2011 04:39 GMT
#34895
On October 19 2011 13:37 GTR wrote:
every girls day song is the same with lyrics and composition mixed around slightly


at least they don't do shitty teddy riley songs right? riiiight?

I actually really enjoyed the "don't let your eyes wander" song before they took off for Japan but yes all their songs follow the same generic formula for a bit now.
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
October 19 2011 04:40 GMT
#34896
The new snsd is okay. Ive listened to it a few times and its not like annoying or anything lol. I was surprised by how attractive tiffany came out to be in the video. Jessica also looked amazing. Same for Yoona, Yuri, Taeyeon (the usual suspects) and even seohyun is looking good nowadays.

And for the haters, you need a little ugly fodder to make the whites whiter right?
NrG.Kvz
TritaN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States406 Posts
October 19 2011 04:40 GMT
#34897
On October 19 2011 13:36 DystopiaX wrote:
I like minah though...and she can sing...and she looks good when she's not acting cute...and when she does act cute it's cute....and
godammit


minah is adorable.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
October 19 2011 04:40 GMT
#34898
roffle's tier is so lenient lol.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 19 2011 04:43 GMT
#34899
On October 19 2011 13:34 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 13:31 DEN1ED wrote:
I would switch Girl's Day and After School in that list. Girl's Day has amazing songs and all look great. I also understand SNSD being tier 3 based off recent stuff but I think history should matter too.

??

Are you kidding me? Fucking After School is completely fucking composed of race car models with some fucking gorgeous legs. Lots of activity from them (subgroups), and some decent concepts and fucking amazing visuals (minus Michael Jackson's nose) definitely merit them a slot up there.

Girl's Day on the other hand has like the same fucking cutesy bullshit concepts and are fucking meh. There's a troll that can't open her eyes on stage and it really fucking pisses me off looking at her.


Is rapesquirrel also a plus in your book?

(No comment on Orange Caramel, though.)
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 04:45:03
October 19 2011 04:44 GMT
#34900
On October 19 2011 13:39 UrASofty wrote:
u could have just said boobs

FINE. BRO CHECK OUT THEM NICE HUGE ASS TITTIES ID DO HER SO BAD

On October 19 2011 13:39 Snorkle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 13:37 GTR wrote:
every girls day song is the same with lyrics and composition mixed around slightly


at least they don't do shitty teddy riley songs right? riiiight?

I actually really enjoyed the "don't let your eyes wander" song before they took off for Japan but yes all their songs follow the same generic formula for a bit now.

Teddy Riley did do Rania's debut song and that was good, so I wouldn't blame him for everything.

edit- ^he did mention the michael jackson nose.
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