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jongzor
Profile Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:39:32
October 18 2011 20:32 GMT
#34761
After waking up today, I was excited to see the new SNSD video. Unfortunately, after watching the whole thing, it felt as if my parents had been hinting at a Nintendo 64 for christmas, only to find out I got a pack of rosearts.

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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:51:33
October 18 2011 20:51 GMT
#34762
On October 19 2011 05:22 Minzy wrote:
whats with the hate, i reckon the boys is a sick song. it has an almost aggresive feel, they just upped the stakes in the mv department too. this song is at the very least marketable in the west, will be interesting to see how that goes.

As far as marketable songs in the west, I would rate Orange Caramel - Bangkok City higher, as well as a number of Miss A songs at the very least.

Can't think totally offhand what else where is, but The Boys is pretty much generic garbage as far as western music goes and is like B-movie level compared to most western music.
If you are going to make something western, then they could at least try and keep something k-pop about it. Making carbon copy western crap that isn't even as good as most existing stuff hopefully won't do anything for them.
HOLY CHECK!
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 18 2011 20:52 GMT
#34763
seo taeji anyone ?

hayeoga
come back home
gyoshil idea
Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
October 18 2011 20:59 GMT
#34764
On October 19 2011 05:22 Minzy wrote:
whats with the hate, i reckon the boys is a sick song. it has an almost aggresive feel, they just upped the stakes in the mv department too. this song is at the very least marketable in the west, will be interesting to see how that goes.


I totally agree. I don't understand all the hate because of The Boys. It's a very different SNSD song, and as above mentioned, I think it has an aggressive sound, which I think suits their "mature concept" quite well.

IT AIN'T THAT BAAAAD!
Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#34765
On October 19 2011 05:51 Lonyo wrote:
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On October 19 2011 05:22 Minzy wrote:
whats with the hate, i reckon the boys is a sick song. it has an almost aggresive feel, they just upped the stakes in the mv department too. this song is at the very least marketable in the west, will be interesting to see how that goes.

As far as marketable songs in the west, I would rate Orange Caramel - Bangkok City higher, as well as a number of Miss A songs at the very least.

Can't think totally offhand what else where is, but The Boys is pretty much generic garbage as far as western music goes and is like B-movie level compared to most western music.
If you are going to make something western, then they could at least try and keep something k-pop about it. Making carbon copy western crap that isn't even as good as most existing stuff hopefully won't do anything for them.

Or if you do carbon copy, make it better than what Western artists put out (not hard) instead of worse.
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 18 2011 21:07 GMT
#34766
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
October 18 2011 21:14 GMT
#34767
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.

I like Sojin...
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 18 2011 21:15 GMT
#34768
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.

Because it's Korean music discussion, not Korean Music Fanboy Over the Groups You Like. As long as you're being respectful about your criticism I don't really care; if I just wanted to see endless posts of adoration I'd go to a fansite about a specific group, but I think that the KMD thread is better than that cause we're all semi-intelligent, can take criticism of our idols, and can post awesome stuff that I wouldn't have seen otherwise instead of "I LOVE TIFFANY AND HER HAAIR AND THE WAY SHE SINGS YAHHHHHHHHH!"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
October 18 2011 21:19 GMT
#34769
No, there are plenty of people in this thread who flip their shit at the slightest criticism or hint that someone dislikes what they like.

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SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
October 18 2011 21:20 GMT
#34770
On October 19 2011 04:33 Ouga wrote:
I had image of this Teddy Riley of being plague when there were topics about him and that girl group which debuted this year that he supposedly produced. I already then tried to google out if he had ever actually made a good song, and never found any. I hate how he's now called names like "none other than" as if he's some big shot. All I see is the worst SNSD single they've published. I hope rest of the songs are better, and hopefully they'll have a followup single soon.


Like I said before, the only noteworthy thing Teddy has done was that he co-produced Michael Jackson's Dangerous album. And considering that some of us don't really know MJ's work, you probably wouldn't have heard Teddy's name until he hit the Kpop scene. Teddy isn't that famous, nor should he get the recognition that people claim.
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 18 2011 21:21 GMT
#34771
On October 19 2011 06:15 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.

Because it's Korean music discussion, not Korean Music Fanboy Over the Groups You Like. As long as you're being respectful about your criticism I don't really care; if I just wanted to see endless posts of adoration I'd go to a fansite about a specific group, but I think that the KMD thread is better than that cause we're all semi-intelligent, can take criticism of our idols, and can post awesome stuff that I wouldn't have seen otherwise instead of "I LOVE TIFFANY AND HER HAAIR AND THE WAY SHE SINGS YAHHHHHHHHH!"


Well I mean her hair is pretty fantastic. I wasn't really talking about your post mostly ones writen by kipsate :D
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 21:23:48
October 18 2011 21:22 GMT
#34772
On October 19 2011 06:19 Craton wrote:
No, there are plenty of people in this thread who flip their shit at the slightest criticism or hint that someone dislikes what they like.

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I like to think that most of the "regulars" or frequent posters can take a little criticism, but today/SNSD release saw the creation of a lot of new accounts and people posting that wouldn't otherwise.


On October 19 2011 06:21 Radioman wrote:
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On October 19 2011 06:15 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.

Because it's Korean music discussion, not Korean Music Fanboy Over the Groups You Like. As long as you're being respectful about your criticism I don't really care; if I just wanted to see endless posts of adoration I'd go to a fansite about a specific group, but I think that the KMD thread is better than that cause we're all semi-intelligent, can take criticism of our idols, and can post awesome stuff that I wouldn't have seen otherwise instead of "I LOVE TIFFANY AND HER HAAIR AND THE WAY SHE SINGS YAHHHHHHHHH!"


Well I mean her hair is pretty fantastic. I wasn't really talking about your post mostly ones writen by kipsate :D

Thought he was fine too. A bit more critical than most but hey, it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. The only terrible post I think I've seen was ImYoonA's that contained bad language and slurs but he/she got temped for 1 week for it so I think we're good.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 18 2011 21:26 GMT
#34773
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.


Is not everyone entitled to his own opinion?If people think its shit then they will express so, if you want praise 24/7 you should go to SSF and not here.
WriterXiao8~~
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 18 2011 21:26 GMT
#34774
On October 19 2011 06:22 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 06:19 Craton wrote:
No, there are plenty of people in this thread who flip their shit at the slightest criticism or hint that someone dislikes what they like.

+ Show Spoiler +
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I like to think that most of the "regulars" or frequent posters can take a little criticism, but today/SNSD release saw the creation of a lot of new accounts and people posting that wouldn't otherwise.


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On October 19 2011 06:21 Radioman wrote:
On October 19 2011 06:15 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.

Because it's Korean music discussion, not Korean Music Fanboy Over the Groups You Like. As long as you're being respectful about your criticism I don't really care; if I just wanted to see endless posts of adoration I'd go to a fansite about a specific group, but I think that the KMD thread is better than that cause we're all semi-intelligent, can take criticism of our idols, and can post awesome stuff that I wouldn't have seen otherwise instead of "I LOVE TIFFANY AND HER HAAIR AND THE WAY SHE SINGS YAHHHHHHHHH!"


Well I mean her hair is pretty fantastic. I wasn't really talking about your post mostly ones writen by kipsate :D

Thought he was fine too. A bit more critical than most but hey, it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. The only terrible post I think I've seen was ImYoonA's that contained bad language and slurs but he/she got temped for 1 week for it so I think we're good.


I mean I'm kinda fueling the fire but I just didn't like hearing the song on my way to work then checking the forums for 10 pages of garbage. Can't we all just bro five and dance like snoopy.
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
October 18 2011 21:28 GMT
#34775
I think I'm liking Top secret the best out of the album so far.. except for the fact that the beginning reminds me of Rock Lobster. Is it just me?
>.<
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 18 2011 21:29 GMT
#34776
On October 19 2011 06:26 Radioman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 06:22 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 19 2011 06:19 Craton wrote:
No, there are plenty of people in this thread who flip their shit at the slightest criticism or hint that someone dislikes what they like.

+ Show Spoiler +
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I like to think that most of the "regulars" or frequent posters can take a little criticism, but today/SNSD release saw the creation of a lot of new accounts and people posting that wouldn't otherwise.


On October 19 2011 06:21 Radioman wrote:
On October 19 2011 06:15 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 19 2011 06:07 Radioman wrote:
Isn't it all relative? What I like you don't like. Why are you people still calling it bad. Talk about something you enjoy for a little while.

Because it's Korean music discussion, not Korean Music Fanboy Over the Groups You Like. As long as you're being respectful about your criticism I don't really care; if I just wanted to see endless posts of adoration I'd go to a fansite about a specific group, but I think that the KMD thread is better than that cause we're all semi-intelligent, can take criticism of our idols, and can post awesome stuff that I wouldn't have seen otherwise instead of "I LOVE TIFFANY AND HER HAAIR AND THE WAY SHE SINGS YAHHHHHHHHH!"


Well I mean her hair is pretty fantastic. I wasn't really talking about your post mostly ones writen by kipsate :D

Thought he was fine too. A bit more critical than most but hey, it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. The only terrible post I think I've seen was ImYoonA's that contained bad language and slurs but he/she got temped for 1 week for it so I think we're good.


I mean I'm kinda fueling the fire but I just didn't like hearing the song on my way to work then checking the forums for 10 pages of garbage. Can't we all just bro five and dance like snoopy.

Well you know if the song was good it would've been 10 pages of praise instead....the thread will think what the thread will think.
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
October 18 2011 21:39 GMT
#34777
It has a mind of its own. It's become something non of us can handle even nazgul himself can't stop it. I like it when stuff gets posted here before allkpop or soshified etc etc.
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KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
October 18 2011 21:54 GMT
#34778
Yeah a lot of the time it's the Korean Music Hating thread but there are posters here who think for themselves instead of following the masses and are not afraid of expressing their opinion even if it's completely different than what the majority says etc. And no matter how much I may disagree with many of them at the end of the day I still respect that sort of thing.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#34779
On October 19 2011 06:54 KroplaBeskidu wrote:
Yeah a lot of the time it's the Korean Music Hating thread but there are posters here who think for themselves instead of following the masses and are not afraid of expressing their opinion even if it's completely different than what the majority says etc. And no matter how much I may disagree with many of them at the end of the day I still respect that sort of thing.


I feel ya bruh, being the lone 2ne1 fan is meh .

Also I only shit talk snsd because sones get super defensive and it satisfies my trolling needs moreso than any other section on these forums. But they really aren't that bad (cept for hyoyeon shes the one trolling all of us)
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AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
October 18 2011 22:04 GMT
#34780
I think the reason why everyone is hating on The Boys so much is because of what it represents. First, Teddy Riley hyped it up a lot leading us to believe it was amazing. Instead we got a song that didnt suit their style. This type of style should be left to 2ne1. Second, this is the second chance that kpop has been given to be successful in the US. Because the song isnt the best that SNSD can do, it doesn't look good for kpop in general. It could have become the doorway for kpop to expand into the US, but as we've seen, it's huge failure.
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