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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
December 31 2009 00:33 GMT
#1001
On December 31 2009 09:23 rushz0rz wrote:
I've been thinking about it a lot and I think Cameron should have ended the movie with a more bleak and depressing outlook. It would have made sense, but maybe he does have hope for the future of mankind. I think the humans should have won the epic battle, where the indigenous (Na'vi) lose and are forced to flee the spirit tree scattered, divided, and beaten. Jake is taken back to Earth and imprisoned for a short while, and he spends the rest of his life an alcoholic, reflecting on his experience with the Na'vi people.

And in the sequel the Navi people get to open up space casinos and get back at whity.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
December 31 2009 00:35 GMT
#1002
On December 31 2009 05:10 Scorch wrote:
I saw the movie this week. I didn't expect much from the story in the first place, and it delivered even less. It seems as if all the plot and characters was taken straight from some "Hollywood Movie 101" handbook. Generic valiant hero, generic uncomplex villains, generic faceless friends ready to die in battle for the hero, and of course there needs to be a generic love story to make things complete. There was nothing in this movie that I hadn't seen elsewhere already. Which is a pity, the avatar body switching thingie had some potential at least.

This film is shockingly uncreative. You'd think the first thing when making a science-fiction movie would be thinking about a cool world, setting and plot. Apparently not, it's all just a tech demo with a weak run-of-the-mill story strewn over as an alibi. Not even the alien world is much different from ours: only the people are tall blue dryads, the forest plants glow when touched, and the horses have six legs. It's laughable really.

That said, the movie did fulfill its purpose of entertaining me a few hours. Everything looks cool after all, and there are only few boring parts. Still, I couldn't help but exit the cinema unsatisfied, cursing the scriptwriter.


I kinda agree with this and similar comments here - one-dimensional, clichéd plot and characters etc. but from the perspective that I rarely watch movies and so the clichés and cookie-cutter characters don't bother me so much because I haven't been constantly exposed to them.

So overall I kind of enjoyed it, not for the plot or messages or way it was told but there were some interesting ideas there and obviously the visuals were very effective and it passed the time in an entertaining manner.

I genuinely expected much less and even more clichéd or ripped-off content so was pleasantly surprised. Didn't live up to the media hype but one in 100 movies would be lucky to do that, but as for my own hype about it the movie was OK.
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mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 00:38:48
December 31 2009 00:36 GMT
#1003
On December 31 2009 09:23 rushz0rz wrote:
I've been thinking about it a lot and I think Cameron should have ended the movie with a more bleak and depressing outlook. It would have made sense, but maybe he does have hope for the future of mankind. I think the humans should have won the epic battle, where the indigenous (Na'vi) lose and are forced to flee the spirit tree scattered, divided, and beaten. Jake is taken back to Earth and imprisoned for a short while, and he spends the rest of his life an alcoholic, reflecting on his experience with the Na'vi people.

LOL i like it, though jake would most surely have been executed... he betrayed his species O.o
would have made writing a sensible sequel much easier
On December 31 2009 09:33 Archerofaiur wrote:
And in the sequel the Navi people get to open up space casinos and get back at whity.

hahaha
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 31 2009 01:20 GMT
#1004
On December 31 2009 07:21 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
This whole thread is ridiculous.

If J.C. were to see this thread, he'd probably face palm himself into a coma.

It's an A-C-T-I-O-N movie for God's sake! You shouldn't expect a story with a lot of depth. Action movies are as generic as Walt Disney movies to make it easier to follow.

This movie does a few things:

a) showcase the technology for filmmakers (like it or not, this is where the industry is going)

b) provide eye candy

So, let's go back to the OP's intial question: Is Avatar overhyped?

My response: they put so much money in advertising and publicity that the film was hard to miss and it worked. Avatar was meant to be seen in the movie theatres and so far, so good. It's been quite successful thus far.

In conclusion, overhyped to the common theatregoer but not to the rest of the industry.

Avatar is eye candy. Take it with a grain of salt.

Isn't it a Sci-Fi movie?
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 31 2009 03:54 GMT
#1005
Hey guys, New Moon was just named Movie of the Year.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
December 31 2009 03:59 GMT
#1006
On December 31 2009 12:54 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Hey guys, New Moon was just named Movie of the Year.



Who?
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
T9
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan13 Posts
December 31 2009 08:02 GMT
#1007
Alvin and the Chipmunks > Avatar
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
December 31 2009 08:06 GMT
#1008
Just saw it in 3d imax... it was awesome. What an experience
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
December 31 2009 08:16 GMT
#1009
dances with wolves meets fern gully meets the battle for endor

but 3D subtitles totally blew my mind, so it was worth it.
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
December 31 2009 08:23 GMT
#1010
I just watched it for the second time today in 3D IMAX, and needless to say, the movie was WAY better for some reason. The lines weren't as cheesy and it was still beautiful as ever. Seeing it for the second time kind of made me look into why some of those lines were there, and things kind of melded to make sense.
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Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
December 31 2009 08:26 GMT
#1011
Damn good movie. Anyone who says otherwise is a retard.
meow
keepITup
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
251 Posts
December 31 2009 08:38 GMT
#1012
For such a long movie, it's weird how depressed you get when it ends.

I mean you walk out back to your car and it's just like, "real life is so dull..."
T9
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan13 Posts
December 31 2009 08:42 GMT
#1013
Avatar makes me want to grow a pony-tail.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
December 31 2009 09:22 GMT
#1014
--- Nuked ---
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 31 2009 10:04 GMT
#1015
On December 31 2009 17:38 keepITup wrote:
For such a long movie, it's weird how depressed you get when it ends.

I mean you walk out back to your car and it's just like, "real life is so dull..."

I'm going through that exact same rut right now. And this is like 3 days after seeing it. Never has happened with any other movie/game/anything before.... fucking weird.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
December 31 2009 13:22 GMT
#1016
On December 31 2009 17:38 keepITup wrote:
For such a long movie, it's weird how depressed you get when it ends.

I mean you walk out back to your car and it's just like, "real life is so dull..."



I wish real life was 3D....
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ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 21:10:15
December 31 2009 21:09 GMT
#1017
Obama just saw Avatar on New Years Eve during his vacation and said its in his top 5 movies.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 01 2010 02:40 GMT
#1018
On December 31 2009 22:22 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 17:38 keepITup wrote:
For such a long movie, it's weird how depressed you get when it ends.

I mean you walk out back to your car and it's just like, "real life is so dull..."



I wish real life was 3D....

I wish real life involved dangerous yet exciting adventures...
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
January 01 2010 02:44 GMT
#1019
On December 31 2009 12:59 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 12:54 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Hey guys, New Moon was just named Movie of the Year.



Who?


you know, the cute guy from twilight
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
January 01 2010 03:32 GMT
#1020
On December 31 2009 19:04 AtlaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 17:38 keepITup wrote:
For such a long movie, it's weird how depressed you get when it ends.

I mean you walk out back to your car and it's just like, "real life is so dull..."

I'm going through that exact same rut right now. And this is like 3 days after seeing it. Never has happened with any other movie/game/anything before.... fucking weird.


That's the intent of it.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
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