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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 23 2017 15:41 GMT
#120441
Could any friendly soul point me to the correct direction to get into Muv-Luv properly? I've already watched both Muv-Luv Alternative and Schwarzemarken animes but I wanna get deeper into this universe.
I'd like to not waste time on some censored / cut content bullcrap so where should I go to find stuff?

I see that Muv-Luv exists on Steam, is it ok to start there and then finding some patch somewhere?(pls link if so)
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 15:51:28
May 23 2017 15:47 GMT
#120442
On May 24 2017 00:39 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
so like I said, I gave NGNL another chance and read up to and through vol4. Vol4 for those unaware was the moment I ragequited the last time around and I think most people in here called it a low point of the series as well. But I got through it.
I still think this vol in particular is really bad. The introduction was somewhat funny (while incredibly ... what's the opposite of classy?) and all that, mostly due to Soras reactions and change in attitude every time he heard some new piece of information but besides that it just was a mess for me.

+ Show Spoiler +
The "game" was't even a game and while that's somewhat normal for the series, it usually thrives on it being hilarious or interesting bullshit one way or the other. In this case it just wasn't anything.
The only good thing about it for me was the realization that we're going to get Flügel in it's continuation...

anyways. It had some good parts here and there that made me laugh but there's no way around calling vol4 what it was: a disappointment. Perhaps not as bad this time because I knew what I was getting into.

That being said, now that I've made it through this one without ragequitting I'm somewhat determined to get to the rest and got a question for the people reading it:
Which one is the vol that they're doing for the movie? I heard that that's a bit of a stand-alone and from the cover alone I'd guess it has to be vol6 but just to be sure. Don't want to read that before watching the movie if I can skip it and the rest still makes sense.


Isn't 4 the one with the Dhampers or whatever stupid thing they named vampires? That was a pretty terribad vol.

yes, it's the blowjob-vampire race vol. Whatever they were called

On May 24 2017 00:41 DwD wrote:
Could any friendly soul point me to the correct direction to get into Muv-Luv properly? I've already watched both Muv-Luv Alternative and Schwarzemarken animes but I wanna get deeper into this universe.
I'd like to not waste time on some censored / cut content bullcrap so where should I go to find stuff?

I see that Muv-Luv exists on Steam, is it ok to start there and then finding some patch somewhere?(pls link if so)


Sent is really into it I think? So probably best to ask him directly:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/94273-anime-discussion?page=6022#120430

if noone else answers this
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 16:05:27
May 23 2017 16:05 GMT
#120443
On May 24 2017 00:39 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
so like I said, I gave NGNL another chance and read up to and through vol4. Vol4 for those unaware was the moment I ragequited the last time around and I think most people in here called it a low point of the series as well. But I got through it.
I still think this vol in particular is really bad. The introduction was somewhat funny (while incredibly ... what's the opposite of classy?) and all that, mostly due to Soras reactions and change in attitude every time he heard some new piece of information but besides that it just was a mess for me.

+ Show Spoiler +
The "game" was't even a game and while that's somewhat normal for the series, it usually thrives on it being hilarious or interesting bullshit one way or the other. In this case it just wasn't anything.
The only good thing about it for me was the realization that we're going to get Flügel in it's continuation...

anyways. It had some good parts here and there that made me laugh but there's no way around calling vol4 what it was: a disappointment. Perhaps not as bad this time because I knew what I was getting into.

That being said, now that I've made it through this one without ragequitting I'm somewhat determined to get to the rest and got a question for the people reading it:
Which one is the vol that they're doing for the movie? I heard that that's a bit of a stand-alone and from the cover alone I'd guess it has to be vol6 but just to be sure. Don't want to read that before watching the movie if I can skip it and the rest still makes sense.


Isn't 4 the one with the Dhampers or whatever stupid thing they named vampires? That was a pretty terribad vol.

Probably Dhampir. It means a half-vampire half-human crossbreed and originates from old south eastern european folklore.
It's not a 'whatever stupid thing'.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 16:11:22
May 23 2017 16:06 GMT
#120444
On May 24 2017 00:41 DwD wrote:
Could any friendly soul point me to the correct direction to get into Muv-Luv properly? I've already watched both Muv-Luv Alternative and Schwarzemarken animes but I wanna get deeper into this universe.
I'd like to not waste time on some censored / cut content bullcrap so where should I go to find stuff?

I see that Muv-Luv exists on Steam, is it ok to start there and then finding some patch somewhere?(pls link if so)

Alternative was never adapted into an anime, Total eclipse is just a spin off.

You could play Extra & Unlimited on steam and then get Alternative off of Fuwanovel torrents but I'd recommend waiting for the steam version of Alternative. The better translation is worth the wait (though it's taking a long ass time to release).

There's a 18+ patch for the steam version but it's 10 $ (lol) and i can't find a torrent for it. Not that it really matters because the only thing that's cut out is bad porn.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 23 2017 16:25 GMT
#120445
On May 23 2017 06:12 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
BF, I can understand how you feel. I was super close to dropping it as well but they kinda redeemed themselves. Akko is still annoying as fuck with her bullshit idealistic spoutings.

LWA is too far in and not interesting enough. I can see Akko getting on my nerves haha

On May 23 2017 06:12 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 06:07 BigFan wrote:
They both are terrible
- someone who dropped LWA in episode 3


You are not supposed to replace me as a flame-bait. :[

//@Zero: Well, I guess you can stop being intrigued unless you want to get to know me IRL and get a taste of my cynicism, lol.


On May 23 2017 06:41 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 06:07 BigFan wrote:
They both are terrible
- someone who dropped LWA in episode 3


--;

haha well, I wasn't trying

On May 23 2017 08:50 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2017 06:07 BigFan wrote:
They both are terrible
- someone who dropped LWA in episode 3

And so it begins, BigFan is becoming a cynical hater.

exceptions ~
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 16:38:52
May 23 2017 16:36 GMT
#120446
On May 24 2017 00:41 DwD wrote:
Could any friendly soul point me to the correct direction to get into Muv-Luv properly? I've already watched both Muv-Luv Alternative and Schwarzemarken animes but I wanna get deeper into this universe.
I'd like to not waste time on some censored / cut content bullcrap so where should I go to find stuff?

I see that Muv-Luv exists on Steam, is it ok to start there and then finding some patch somewhere?(pls link if so)


if I remember correctly, the optimal path of reading muv luv is doing sumika and meiya route in extra, meiya in unlimited, and just read through alternative. Best not to spend too much time on the first two games as alternative is longer than both of them combined and is the main bulk of the story. Also the part of the story that is most heavily praised. Extra is actually hilariously bad so yea just read the two main routes in it otherwise you can suffer things like lacrosse if you desire.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 23 2017 17:04 GMT
#120447
On May 24 2017 01:05 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 00:39 Slaughter wrote:
On May 24 2017 00:10 Toadesstern wrote:
so like I said, I gave NGNL another chance and read up to and through vol4. Vol4 for those unaware was the moment I ragequited the last time around and I think most people in here called it a low point of the series as well. But I got through it.
I still think this vol in particular is really bad. The introduction was somewhat funny (while incredibly ... what's the opposite of classy?) and all that, mostly due to Soras reactions and change in attitude every time he heard some new piece of information but besides that it just was a mess for me.

+ Show Spoiler +
The "game" was't even a game and while that's somewhat normal for the series, it usually thrives on it being hilarious or interesting bullshit one way or the other. In this case it just wasn't anything.
The only good thing about it for me was the realization that we're going to get Flügel in it's continuation...

anyways. It had some good parts here and there that made me laugh but there's no way around calling vol4 what it was: a disappointment. Perhaps not as bad this time because I knew what I was getting into.

That being said, now that I've made it through this one without ragequitting I'm somewhat determined to get to the rest and got a question for the people reading it:
Which one is the vol that they're doing for the movie? I heard that that's a bit of a stand-alone and from the cover alone I'd guess it has to be vol6 but just to be sure. Don't want to read that before watching the movie if I can skip it and the rest still makes sense.


Isn't 4 the one with the Dhampers or whatever stupid thing they named vampires? That was a pretty terribad vol.

Probably Dhampir. It means a half-vampire half-human crossbreed and originates from old south eastern european folklore.
It's not a 'whatever stupid thing'.


Yes I am well aware of what Dhampirs are. Doesn't change anything because the species in NGNL was stupid.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 23 2017 17:28 GMT
#120448
Sirens are the ones that were supposed to be stupid! + Show Spoiler +
And I'm still not sure if they are or not because apparently they outsmarted the Dhampirs?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 23 2017 17:39 GMT
#120449
On May 24 2017 01:06 Lackbleeder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 00:41 DwD wrote:
Could any friendly soul point me to the correct direction to get into Muv-Luv properly? I've already watched both Muv-Luv Alternative and Schwarzemarken animes but I wanna get deeper into this universe.
I'd like to not waste time on some censored / cut content bullcrap so where should I go to find stuff?

I see that Muv-Luv exists on Steam, is it ok to start there and then finding some patch somewhere?(pls link if so)

Alternative was never adapted into an anime, Total eclipse is just a spin off.

You could play Extra & Unlimited on steam and then get Alternative off of Fuwanovel torrents but I'd recommend waiting for the steam version of Alternative. The better translation is worth the wait (though it's taking a long ass time to release).

There's a 18+ patch for the steam version but it's 10 $ (lol) and i can't find a torrent for it. Not that it really matters because the only thing that's cut out is bad porn.


If I get the game on Steam(holy shit why is it 32€...) do I miss out on anything? You mentioned a patch.. I can't find a patch on Steam is it bought in game maybe?
Basically I don't want to do like a 30hour game only to get told later I picked the wrong version or w/e
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 18:45:08
May 23 2017 18:04 GMT
#120450
On May 24 2017 02:39 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 01:06 Lackbleeder wrote:
On May 24 2017 00:41 DwD wrote:
Could any friendly soul point me to the correct direction to get into Muv-Luv properly? I've already watched both Muv-Luv Alternative and Schwarzemarken animes but I wanna get deeper into this universe.
I'd like to not waste time on some censored / cut content bullcrap so where should I go to find stuff?

I see that Muv-Luv exists on Steam, is it ok to start there and then finding some patch somewhere?(pls link if so)

Alternative was never adapted into an anime, Total eclipse is just a spin off.

You could play Extra & Unlimited on steam and then get Alternative off of Fuwanovel torrents but I'd recommend waiting for the steam version of Alternative. The better translation is worth the wait (though it's taking a long ass time to release).

There's a 18+ patch for the steam version but it's 10 $ (lol) and i can't find a torrent for it. Not that it really matters because the only thing that's cut out is bad porn.


If I get the game on Steam(holy shit why is it 32€...) do I miss out on anything? You mentioned a patch.. I can't find a patch on Steam is it bought in game maybe?
Basically I don't want to do like a 30hour game only to get told later I picked the wrong version or w/e

Steam is the official version of extra & unlimited with a better translation,better art quality (slightly cropped images though), semi-animated sprites and a good UI. The steam summer sale is coming soon you can grab the game at 40-50% off if you can wait.

There's a patch at denpasoft that restores sex scenes for the steam version for 10 $. I don't think it's worth it because they're pretty bad but it's up to you, only thing you need to know is that the MC and girl fuck at the end of the game.

Btw extra is bad, unlimited is decent and alternative is great. I'm recommending the steam version because it'll make Extra more bearable and improve unlimited.

Follow IceHism's guide for how to play the game.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 18:08:22
May 23 2017 18:07 GMT
#120451
You can also always pirate the patch if you want it. Because honestly imo it's a scam to make people pay 10$ to restore cut content.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 23 2017 18:28 GMT
#120452
I found this on the Steam store, it should be correct right?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

And then I found... something... on 4chan lol "MuvLuv_DirectorsCut" I guess maybe that's some patch but I cant run it since I dont have the game. Its telling me Muv Luv need to have been run once to update.

Thanks for the help sometimes this anime stuff is so confusing when people explain because they explain it like I've already played it but really got no clue.

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 18:46:26
May 23 2017 18:45 GMT
#120453
On May 24 2017 03:28 DwD wrote:
I found this on the Steam store, it should be correct right?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

And then I found... something... on 4chan lol "MuvLuv_DirectorsCut" I guess maybe that's some patch but I cant run it since I dont have the game. Its telling me Muv Luv need to have been run once to update.

Thanks for the help sometimes this anime stuff is so confusing when people explain because they explain it like I've already played it but really got no clue.



Yep that chart is what I used too, here's a guide that explains which choices you need to make so you don't waste any time.

Btw don't look around the steam forums much, they spoil shit constantly.

And yeah that should be the patch.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28101 Posts
May 23 2017 18:56 GMT
#120454
The directors cut is a patch that provides the H scenes which were removed for the steam version.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
May 23 2017 19:06 GMT
#120455
I assume they removed twizzlers for the steam release? That scene was so bad it was comical.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28101 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 19:10:08
May 23 2017 19:10 GMT
#120456
There is no steam release for Alternative yet (although it was announced or something). I'm sure there will be a 18+ patch for it shortly after release though.
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Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 19:31:07
May 23 2017 19:30 GMT
#120457
On May 24 2017 04:10 TheEmulator wrote:
There is no steam release for Alternative yet (although it was announced or something). I'm sure there will be a 18+ patch for it shortly after release though.

It was Summer 2016 initially, afterwards it became winter 2016 and now who the fuck knows. The last update on kickstarter just said it's coming soon™
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 20:15:27
May 23 2017 20:15 GMT
#120458
Watched the Koe no Katachi movie, would definitely recommend. Felt a lot of emotions: rage, anger, happy, sad, surprised etc... After the initial bullying portion, it was a really sweet and cute anime movie with two MCs that just fit well imo:
+ Show Spoiler +
Watching the bullying go on was terrible in the beginning. From my perspective, Sho wanted to learn more about Nishimiya but was egged on by several classmates. We see him showing some concern about her potentially getting everyone to dislike her. I was surprised that it got to the point where it became violent in the classroom but I guess it can't be helped. Seeing his mom paying money and with a blood drenched shirt after meeting with her mom must've been the trigger to take it up a notch.

The whole 'being blocked off' from making friends was sad too. Feels like the teacher should've stopped the bullying when it was getting started then it wouldn't have gotten far and neither would he have lost his friends or Nishimiya had to change schools etc... Now, having said that, I really enjoyed their relationship growing with each minute. Him gathering up the courage to talk to her again, making a friend and trying to refix old relationships, even if they got undone yet again by the past. The scene with him planning to jump off the bridge and of course, the mom questioning him and trying to make sure he promises her he won't do anything rash was great.

It was a bit surprising that she still likes him after all the past bullying, but maybe she forgave him for it. The "I love you" scene that got understood as the moon was funny too, felt bad for her lol. Of course, the kicker was him almost dying, but saving her during her suicide attempt. A pretty emotional scene, especially the following hospital scene with her mom and the subsequent fight. Her having that dream at the end and him waking up and just ripping off all those medical equipment then somehow leaving the hospital to their usual place was the most bizzare part. I would've rather she got to the hospital and was by his side or something but I understand what's going on.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 23 2017 20:18 GMT
#120459
On May 24 2017 03:28 DwD wrote:
I found this on the Steam store, it should be correct right?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

And then I found... something... on 4chan lol "MuvLuv_DirectorsCut" I guess maybe that's some patch but I cant run it since I dont have the game. Its telling me Muv Luv need to have been run once to update.

Thanks for the help sometimes this anime stuff is so confusing when people explain because they explain it like I've already played it but really got no clue.


Yeah, that chart right there is a good chart to follow for the VN.

The Steam version contains both "Muv-Luv Extra" and "Muv-Luv Unlimited". Alternative, which is the meat of the trilogy, should be finished within the next month or so, if the Kickstarter Updates are anything to go by.

All of the Steam Versions are All-Ages, so unless you want nudity and what not, you don't need any patches. If you DO want to see some tiddes, then that Director's Cut thing you found will patch them in.


Just an FYI, so you know what you are getting yourself into... Muv-Luv Extra is a pretty generic romcom harem VN, whose main objective is to introduce to you the main cast, and get you setup for the twist. Many people think its bad, I instead think its just generic, but I maybe be incredibly biased because Sumika is mai waifu. Unlimited is where things kick off into things that are what you would expect coming from Schwarzesmarken and Total Eclipse, since that game is the intoduction to the actual setting. And then Alternative is godlike.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
May 23 2017 21:39 GMT
#120460
On May 24 2017 05:18 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2017 03:28 DwD wrote:
I found this on the Steam store, it should be correct right?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

And then I found... something... on 4chan lol "MuvLuv_DirectorsCut" I guess maybe that's some patch but I cant run it since I dont have the game. Its telling me Muv Luv need to have been run once to update.

Thanks for the help sometimes this anime stuff is so confusing when people explain because they explain it like I've already played it but really got no clue.


Yeah, that chart right there is a good chart to follow for the VN.

The Steam version contains both "Muv-Luv Extra" and "Muv-Luv Unlimited". Alternative, which is the meat of the trilogy, should be finished within the next month or so, if the Kickstarter Updates are anything to go by.

All of the Steam Versions are All-Ages, so unless you want nudity and what not, you don't need any patches. If you DO want to see some tiddes, then that Director's Cut thing you found will patch them in.


Just an FYI, so you know what you are getting yourself into... Muv-Luv Extra is a pretty generic romcom harem VN, whose main objective is to introduce to you the main cast, and get you setup for the twist. Many people think its bad, I instead think its just generic, but I maybe be incredibly biased because Sumika is mai waifu. Unlimited is where things kick off into things that are what you would expect coming from Schwarzesmarken and Total Eclipse, since that game is the intoduction to the actual setting. And then Alternative is godlike.



I'm usually not into VN but I started Steins:Gate 0 on PS4 and I kinda like it and I've only heard good stuff about Muv-Luv and the animes were super exciting so I'm willing to take the plunge. Vacation coming up so Im getting ready to sit on my ass and not do shit except marathon stuff that I'm interested in :D
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