Anime Discussion Thread - Page 6015

On May 10 2017 08:26 Lackbleeder wrote:

Gunbuster had some hard scifi concepts like time dilation but it also had stuff like + Show Spoiler +

On May 10 2017 09:58 felisconcolori wrote:
... I think you're missing the opportunity to shoehorn a new subgenre-fication in the discussion.

Anyways, as a long time Sci-Fi/Fantasy reader - the difference is that Sci-Fi has to at least have a reasonable connection to science as it is or as it could be without too much handwaving and particle of the week nonsense. Whether or not the science makes sense, it is actually viewed scientifically. (Which is why, say, Star Trek would be more Sci Fi with Star Wars being more Sci-Fantasy. WTF is a motivator? Why does everything have one? How does it work? Never a part of the story - and the science was dreamed up by secondary authors, fans, etc, after the original story was told. Where as the science, though often tenuous, was central to Star Trek. Even if it was BS like Berthold Rays.)

Straight Fantasy is of course swords/sorcery/low tech/what science.

But you could argue for Urban Fantasy for a lot of the modern/near future anime stories that have tech but also magic. Like Index (but not Railgun). Science can pop up in Urban Fantasy, but isn't a driving factor in the story usually. I think, for Sci-Fi, science needs to be central to how the story plays out.

It's all a big muddle, though, as you point out - there never was any solid demarcation, and things slide from extreme hard sci-fi through to sci-fantasy into urban fantasy and landing in fantasy. Sometimes in the same book! (Dammit, Heinlein.)

On May 10 2017 12:08 Slaughter wrote:
SukaSuka has been consistently good this season.

On May 10 2017 12:11 BigFan wrote:

one of the anime I look forward to every week so I'm glad that it's delivering. For some reason, I do get a feeling that they are cutting a lot of information due to time constraints.

On May 10 2017 12:17 Slaughter wrote:


Probably. I feel like this won't have a happy ending though and that kinda sucks.

From the wiki apparently there is a sequel series? Anyone who has read the novels know what is up? Did they end the series at 5 vols then continue the series with a sequel or is it like a new series with new characters?

On May 10 2017 09:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I mean, I don't necessarily agree with that assessment. By this scale you're linking, HG Well's Time Machine, one of many commonly cited science fictions works by him, is basically a work of fantasy/magic because there's no explanation to the inner workings of the contraption.

In addition, by this scale, we have to consider Steins;Gate hard science fiction because their description of their time traveling machine iirc is pretty extensive even in the anime when it should be clear to everyone that S;G's science is bogus. Fun and greatly entertaining, but bogus nonetheless.

With stuff like Hyperion, Dune, and The Book of the New Sun, stuff like science fiction and fantasy can be blurred for many reasons. I can agree that it's an inebriating idea to want to be able to more easily classify these things, but I feel like these old rules and scales, as nice as they sound or look, don't even remotely come close to adequately explaining much.

From my experience, fantasy and science fiction are most commonly distinguished by tone and atmosphere and it is only when an atmosphere of mysticism and scientific tone collide that we get things like a Dune or a Hyperion.

On May 10 2017 10:14 Sentenal wrote:

Totally hard scifi. Gunbuster even had a giant baseball bat stored in its shoulder that it uses to hit singularities at people that it never used

On May 10 2017 12:17 Slaughter wrote:


Probably. I feel like this won't have a happy ending though and that kinda sucks.

From the wiki apparently there is a sequel series? Anyone who has read the novels know what is up? Did they end the series at 5 vols then continue the series with a sequel or is it like a new series with new characters?

On May 10 2017 17:06 Lackbleeder wrote:

I thought you were joking but holy shit.

On May 10 2017 21:24 Numy wrote:
That key visual doesn't inspire much confidence in me. Looks like some edgelord emo kid with loose clothing. He's meant to be apart from the flamboyant nobility with no substance. Already feel like they won't give it the HxH treatment and now arg.

LoGH from what I've gathered is one of the shows that gets how to do an adaption that adds to the story it's adapting instead of merely being a 1:1 media translator or remove quality with trying to change things.

On May 10 2017 21:24 Numy wrote:
That key visual doesn't inspire much confidence in me. Looks like some edgelord emo kid with loose clothing. He's meant to be apart from the flamboyant nobility with no substance. Already feel like they won't give it the HxH treatment and now arg.

LoGH from what I've gathered is one of the shows that gets how to do an adaption that adds to the story it's adapting instead of merely being a 1:1 media translator or remove quality with trying to change things.

On May 11 2017 02:30 Lackbleeder wrote:
I agree with Sent, I'm just glad the characters will have noses instead of a dot in the middle of their faces. Character design was one of the OVA's strongest aspects because of how little sameface there was without relying on absurd hairstyles or haircolors. The hair looks bad compared to the OVA's though, so little detail ...

On May 11 2017 04:45 Miragee wrote:


Where did you see they have noses? Side-views almost always feature noses. It's the front view that matters.

On May 11 2017 05:25 Lackbleeder wrote:

Usually they're just part of the silhouette and dont have a line/shading "separating" them, for example :
https://peterburd.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/lieinapril18-1.jpg

Idk maybe i'm wrong, just wanna stay optimistic.

On May 05 2017 08:22 IceHism wrote: you're right, I don't know if that is nanoha but that was my first thought. are there any girls that you like that don't come from a mecha/mecha-like show