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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 03 2017 23:20 GMT
#119521
On April 04 2017 06:55 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 06:42 Toadesstern wrote:
On April 04 2017 06:17 IceHism wrote:
On April 04 2017 03:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Just dropping this here. Lul VAs.

idek what Charapedia is but amusing, recent poll.


Wow aoi yuuki so high. And Taneda too low. So sad.

recent shows probably influence these kind of polls a lot. In this case a particular series about a blond nazi girl happened to be RIDICULOUSLY popular so no surprises there tbh


I don't recall youjo senki being that popular. neither the novels or the show.
also, Ayane sakura is up there but who did she voice recently besides like tsuneki? Takahashi rie is kind of low too if popularity affects it.

also, it's WW1, no nazis.

Toad, the casual GER
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lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
April 03 2017 23:22 GMT
#119522
On April 03 2017 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2017 08:33 lethal111 wrote:
I am sad that Gundam Iron Blood has come to an end. Thoroughly enjoyed S1 and S2. I wonder if they will do some type of movie or something. I just wish the ending was longer since it was the last episode ):


I was truly amused by the ending lol, my brother has been watching S1 S2 and then i sort of watch bits and bobs with him from about 40+episodes, have to say it truly looks like they have achieved the goal of promoting gunpla so they don't really care for whatever ends up in the end. I thought they wrapped up everything quite well.

+ Show Spoiler +
Takkadan never ask for alot, they just wanted a place for them (family), and then they grew too big. Orga wanted to become the king/dictator of mars so somehow the 'true villian' rustal becomes the good guy who defeats the protagonists, this is the first time in gundam history lol


I like the fighting scenes, lasers were overused in the past decade seriously, I feel good to see some good actions without having the lasers scream at me 'this is gundam this is gundam'. The reactions of the enemy soldiers are closer to real war emotions as well (at least they tried).


+ Show Spoiler +
I wanted Orga to win so badly, I truly hated Rustal. Mika died too, mad me sad. But im glad that it ended with a happy ending. Ride did Orga proud, still wished Julieta would have died in the end


Coming from the GS, GSD and Gundam 00, the fighting scenes were refreshing without having lasers shooting everywhere. Overall, I enjoyed the series.


sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 03 2017 23:24 GMT
#119523
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and Kuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.
Forever Young
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
April 03 2017 23:24 GMT
#119524
On April 04 2017 07:37 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 03:58 Numy wrote:
On April 04 2017 03:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Just dropping this here. Lul VAs.

idek what Charapedia is but amusing, recent poll.

That poll is a fucking travesty. Anime fans don't deserve anime.

lol kind of surprised she'd be #1. Also surprising top only got ~700 votes out of 10,000 surveyed.

First past the post is terrible
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
April 03 2017 23:27 GMT
#119525
On April 04 2017 08:24 sung_moon wrote:
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and Kuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.

Konosuba would be what you're looking for. One of the most popular anime last year and the second season finished airing recently.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
April 03 2017 23:37 GMT
#119526
On April 04 2017 08:24 sung_moon wrote:
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and Kuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.

Thought this was pretty funny from 2016, not as lewd though. https://myanimelist.net/anime/31952/Kono_Bijutsubu_ni_wa_Mondai_ga_Aru

Also heard good things about this one. https://myanimelist.net/anime/32542/Sakamoto_desu_ga didn't watch it, but from screen caps I've seen, looks pretty over the top and goofy.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
April 03 2017 23:38 GMT
#119527
On April 04 2017 08:24 sung_moon wrote:
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and lKuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.

Konosuba if you're okay with parody/comedy that makes fun of its charakters
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
April 03 2017 23:42 GMT
#119528
On April 04 2017 08:24 sung_moon wrote:
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and Kuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.


One punch man
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 23:43:26
April 03 2017 23:43 GMT
#119529
On April 04 2017 08:22 lethal111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2017 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
On April 03 2017 08:33 lethal111 wrote:
I am sad that Gundam Iron Blood has come to an end. Thoroughly enjoyed S1 and S2. I wonder if they will do some type of movie or something. I just wish the ending was longer since it was the last episode ):


I was truly amused by the ending lol, my brother has been watching S1 S2 and then i sort of watch bits and bobs with him from about 40+episodes, have to say it truly looks like they have achieved the goal of promoting gunpla so they don't really care for whatever ends up in the end. I thought they wrapped up everything quite well.

+ Show Spoiler +
Takkadan never ask for alot, they just wanted a place for them (family), and then they grew too big. Orga wanted to become the king/dictator of mars so somehow the 'true villian' rustal becomes the good guy who defeats the protagonists, this is the first time in gundam history lol


I like the fighting scenes, lasers were overused in the past decade seriously, I feel good to see some good actions without having the lasers scream at me 'this is gundam this is gundam'. The reactions of the enemy soldiers are closer to real war emotions as well (at least they tried).


+ Show Spoiler +
I wanted Orga to win so badly, I truly hated Rustal. Mika died too, mad me sad. But im glad that it ended with a happy ending. Ride did Orga proud, still wished Julieta would have died in the end


Coming from the GS, GSD and Gundam 00, the fighting scenes were refreshing without having lasers shooting everywhere. Overall, I enjoyed the series.



Maybe you guys can put my mind at ease. When you guys say the fights are refreshing and what not, does that mean they get better after the first season? Or are they more or less the same? Because the first season was so insufferably boring I decided to just wait till IBO finished to watch the whole thing, and that hasn't happened to me with a Gundam since Gundam 00s2. I mean hell, I even followed Age weekly.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 04 2017 00:01 GMT
#119530
On April 04 2017 08:24 sung_moon wrote:
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and Kuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.


Using the words "over the top" "goofy" and "lewd"... how is it that NONE of you recommended the GOAT?

Stop what you're doing. Right now. And watch KEIJO!!!
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
April 04 2017 01:38 GMT
#119531
+ Show Spoiler [ Shinsekai Yori] +
Just finished Shinsekai Yori and it was amazing, this show nailed absolutely everything (characters, setting, pacing, themes, etc etc). I was hesitant to watch it initially because I was spoiled on queerats being "humans", something I thought was the big twist, but it actually made me enjoy the show more knowing that. It was also foreshadowed very frequently over the course of the show so i'm guessing you were expected to think something was up anyway.

The conflict was interesting in the sense that we don't usually see dystopia stories primarily through the eyes of the oppressors rather than the victims wich was a nice change of pace. Still almost all characters did truly despicable things for understandable reasons so there's not really such a thing as good or bad in this scenario (as it should be).

It's ironic considering the main reason why I started watching this show over others was because I needed more HDD space and SSY was 40 gigs but now I'm hesitant to delete the files lol.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 04 2017 01:40 GMT
#119532
I kinda wish they would animate the DxD side Story with the kids. Would be cool to see all their designs.
Never Knows Best.
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
April 04 2017 01:50 GMT
#119533
On April 04 2017 08:43 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 08:22 lethal111 wrote:
On April 03 2017 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
On April 03 2017 08:33 lethal111 wrote:
I am sad that Gundam Iron Blood has come to an end. Thoroughly enjoyed S1 and S2. I wonder if they will do some type of movie or something. I just wish the ending was longer since it was the last episode ):


I was truly amused by the ending lol, my brother has been watching S1 S2 and then i sort of watch bits and bobs with him from about 40+episodes, have to say it truly looks like they have achieved the goal of promoting gunpla so they don't really care for whatever ends up in the end. I thought they wrapped up everything quite well.

+ Show Spoiler +
Takkadan never ask for alot, they just wanted a place for them (family), and then they grew too big. Orga wanted to become the king/dictator of mars so somehow the 'true villian' rustal becomes the good guy who defeats the protagonists, this is the first time in gundam history lol


I like the fighting scenes, lasers were overused in the past decade seriously, I feel good to see some good actions without having the lasers scream at me 'this is gundam this is gundam'. The reactions of the enemy soldiers are closer to real war emotions as well (at least they tried).


+ Show Spoiler +
I wanted Orga to win so badly, I truly hated Rustal. Mika died too, mad me sad. But im glad that it ended with a happy ending. Ride did Orga proud, still wished Julieta would have died in the end


Coming from the GS, GSD and Gundam 00, the fighting scenes were refreshing without having lasers shooting everywhere. Overall, I enjoyed the series.



Maybe you guys can put my mind at ease. When you guys say the fights are refreshing and what not, does that mean they get better after the first season? Or are they more or less the same? Because the first season was so insufferably boring I decided to just wait till IBO finished to watch the whole thing, and that hasn't happened to me with a Gundam since Gundam 00s2. I mean hell, I even followed Age weekly.


I thought the fighting was pretty good, better than GS and GSD obviously. I thought they werent boring but thats personal opinion. Season 2 IBO, i think there was possibly more fighting than S1. I didnt get into Age.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 04 2017 01:50 GMT
#119534
On April 04 2017 10:38 Lackbleeder wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ Shinsekai Yori] +
Just finished Shinsekai Yori and it was amazing, this show nailed absolutely everything (characters, setting, pacing, themes, etc etc). I was hesitant to watch it initially because I was spoiled on queerats being "humans", something I thought was the big twist, but it actually made me enjoy the show more knowing that. It was also foreshadowed very frequently over the course of the show so i'm guessing you were expected to think something was up anyway.

The conflict was interesting in the sense that we don't usually see dystopia stories primarily through the eyes of the oppressors rather than the victims wich was a nice change of pace. Still almost all characters did truly despicable things for understandable reasons so there's not really such a thing as good or bad in this scenario (as it should be).

It's ironic considering the main reason why I started watching this show over others was because I needed more HDD space and SSY was 40 gigs but now I'm hesitant to delete the files lol.

Glad you enjoyed it. I loved the show when I watched it. Here's what I wrote at the time:
On June 27 2015 01:46 BigFan wrote:
Shinsekai Yori: + Show Spoiler +
When we knew about their child being under the control of the queerats, we knew that they had to dead or at best, somehow alive and mind control or something. What I really wanted to know is what happened? How did it get to that stage? We are never given that info. The whole igloo being destroyed, that was Maria's doing when she relocated with Mamarou but after that, did that other queerat convince them to stay at their place then when Maria gave birth, her cantus was at its weakest and Mamarou didn't have much in him so they easily overwhelmed them? Did they find them after they gave birth and that's when they attacked them both and took their child? Then you have the letter, it's definitely written by Maria but then, you can probably even try and wonder if it's a legit letter (seems to be to me) or if the queerats purposely wrote it (unlikely).

I could go on and on because as we saw, that child was what changed the whole war. True, the strategic and guerilla type warfare helped them greatly especially against the unprepared humans but beating the hornets in perfect fashion, killing a ton of people including Shirsei who was the strongest cantus user etc... accounted for a ton of fear that rendered humans helpless. Btw, guys, since I've seen this mentioned here, the child is not a fiend! Fiends would attack any and everything living, however, she was only targeting humans because she was raised to believe that she is a queerat from day one and had a death feedback if she killed one of them which is how they killed her in the end.

On the whole DNA topic, I gotta agree with whoever said that its good confirmation when you consider they also looked at dental records. I don't see why they can't do it especially given that Maria and Mamarou run away at the age of 14 then Tomoko said that when they would've been 26 (someone gave their child an age of 10 years so they would've been 17 at the time). There was more than enough to check the DNA and no time constraints with that timeline. Even if the age/gender bit was faked, there was still other evidence to back up the idea that it was them. I only thought that maybe she was lying because she wanted to avoid Saki getting disciplined or even gotten rid of, however, thinking back on it and the situation they were in, we know that Tomoko has always spoke of doing what's good for society.

I don't blame society for getting so mad at Squealer that they opted for the eternal hell punishment. My god, the pain must've been unimaginable. Likewise, I don't blame them for laughing at him when he said that he was human. Ignorance is bliss. What really pisses me off though is that it felt like their society completely closed itself off to previous human actions as in it didn't seem like they tried to teach their students any information about history but everything seemed to focus on doing what's best for society (fiend on bridge, cut rope or if karma demon, walk into a lake to die; makes sense why they did it though). I don't forsee any quick changes happening, at least, not until the people realize that queerats have a link to humans. It is really sad overall though. PK users suppress non-PK users by turning them into beasts so that they can easily use their cantus against them while maintaining their own rules of society. Makes me wonder just how many from the higher ups of society actually know about queerats have human origins.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
April 04 2017 02:07 GMT
#119535
On April 04 2017 09:01 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 08:24 sung_moon wrote:
You guys probably hate when people coming in asking for anime recommendations, but any good comedic animes of 2016 like Prison School/Devil is a Part-Timer (over the top/goofy/lewd)?

Haven't watched anime since end of Naruto and Kuroko's Basketball, thought I'd try and get back into it with something recent and comedic.


Using the words "over the top" "goofy" and "lewd"... how is it that NONE of you recommended the GOAT?

Stop what you're doing. Right now. And watch KEIJO!!!

He said comedic... Keijo is srs bsns!
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 02:35:32
April 04 2017 02:34 GMT
#119536
On April 04 2017 10:50 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 10:38 Lackbleeder wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ Shinsekai Yori] +
Just finished Shinsekai Yori and it was amazing, this show nailed absolutely everything (characters, setting, pacing, themes, etc etc). I was hesitant to watch it initially because I was spoiled on queerats being "humans", something I thought was the big twist, but it actually made me enjoy the show more knowing that. It was also foreshadowed very frequently over the course of the show so i'm guessing you were expected to think something was up anyway.

The conflict was interesting in the sense that we don't usually see dystopia stories primarily through the eyes of the oppressors rather than the victims wich was a nice change of pace. Still almost all characters did truly despicable things for understandable reasons so there's not really such a thing as good or bad in this scenario (as it should be).

It's ironic considering the main reason why I started watching this show over others was because I needed more HDD space and SSY was 40 gigs but now I'm hesitant to delete the files lol.

Glad you enjoyed it. I loved the show when I watched it. Here's what I wrote at the time:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 01:46 BigFan wrote:
Shinsekai Yori: + Show Spoiler +
When we knew about their child being under the control of the queerats, we knew that they had to dead or at best, somehow alive and mind control or something. What I really wanted to know is what happened? How did it get to that stage? We are never given that info. The whole igloo being destroyed, that was Maria's doing when she relocated with Mamarou but after that, did that other queerat convince them to stay at their place then when Maria gave birth, her cantus was at its weakest and Mamarou didn't have much in him so they easily overwhelmed them? Did they find them after they gave birth and that's when they attacked them both and took their child? Then you have the letter, it's definitely written by Maria but then, you can probably even try and wonder if it's a legit letter (seems to be to me) or if the queerats purposely wrote it (unlikely).

I could go on and on because as we saw, that child was what changed the whole war. True, the strategic and guerilla type warfare helped them greatly especially against the unprepared humans but beating the hornets in perfect fashion, killing a ton of people including Shirsei who was the strongest cantus user etc... accounted for a ton of fear that rendered humans helpless. Btw, guys, since I've seen this mentioned here, the child is not a fiend! Fiends would attack any and everything living, however, she was only targeting humans because she was raised to believe that she is a queerat from day one and had a death feedback if she killed one of them which is how they killed her in the end.

On the whole DNA topic, I gotta agree with whoever said that its good confirmation when you consider they also looked at dental records. I don't see why they can't do it especially given that Maria and Mamarou run away at the age of 14 then Tomoko said that when they would've been 26 (someone gave their child an age of 10 years so they would've been 17 at the time). There was more than enough to check the DNA and no time constraints with that timeline. Even if the age/gender bit was faked, there was still other evidence to back up the idea that it was them. I only thought that maybe she was lying because she wanted to avoid Saki getting disciplined or even gotten rid of, however, thinking back on it and the situation they were in, we know that Tomoko has always spoke of doing what's good for society.

I don't blame society for getting so mad at Squealer that they opted for the eternal hell punishment. My god, the pain must've been unimaginable. Likewise, I don't blame them for laughing at him when he said that he was human. Ignorance is bliss. What really pisses me off though is that it felt like their society completely closed itself off to previous human actions as in it didn't seem like they tried to teach their students any information about history but everything seemed to focus on doing what's best for society (fiend on bridge, cut rope or if karma demon, walk into a lake to die; makes sense why they did it though). I don't forsee any quick changes happening, at least, not until the people realize that queerats have a link to humans. It is really sad overall though. PK users suppress non-PK users by turning them into beasts so that they can easily use their cantus against them while maintaining their own rules of society. Makes me wonder just how many from the higher ups of society actually know about queerats have human origins.


Thanks for the post, it was a good read. I agree with most of the stuff you wrote but + Show Spoiler [SSY] +
The canti users turning humans into queerats was to avoid becoming defenseless against regular humans. Obviously I think mutating humans into beasts is unacceptable but their motives weren't evil. The attack prevention and death feedback systems being fundamentally flawed was the real problem imo.

Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-04 04:24:04
April 04 2017 04:15 GMT
#119537
On April 04 2017 04:35 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Xam'd ep14] +
Man, for the past 7 episodes or so I have been thinking about how much I hate characters like Furuichi. In ep14 it climaxed, he survived the "we must kill him" scene and then he suddenly killed himself later. :o

That episode was quite impactful, damn...


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 04:14 Sentenal wrote:
On April 04 2017 03:40 Miragee wrote:
On April 04 2017 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
Attack on Titan being 1 season instead of 2 might be a good thing! Maybe if they can just focus their attention and budget into a single season instead of two, it won't be as full of as much QUALITY and still-images as the first series. Who knows, they may even be able to have consistently good animation.


Like AoT (Attack on Train)? I would be surprised if they poured that much effort into an original show but not into a sequel of a well-recieved one.

If KonoSuba proves anything, is that if a shitty looking show gets popular, sequels can very well be just as shitty looking


fair enough, lol

+ Show Spoiler [Xam'd] +
His death was the only good part of his character arc imo.


On April 04 2017 08:43 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 08:22 lethal111 wrote:
On April 03 2017 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
On April 03 2017 08:33 lethal111 wrote:
I am sad that Gundam Iron Blood has come to an end. Thoroughly enjoyed S1 and S2. I wonder if they will do some type of movie or something. I just wish the ending was longer since it was the last episode ):


I was truly amused by the ending lol, my brother has been watching S1 S2 and then i sort of watch bits and bobs with him from about 40+episodes, have to say it truly looks like they have achieved the goal of promoting gunpla so they don't really care for whatever ends up in the end. I thought they wrapped up everything quite well.

+ Show Spoiler +
Takkadan never ask for alot, they just wanted a place for them (family), and then they grew too big. Orga wanted to become the king/dictator of mars so somehow the 'true villian' rustal becomes the good guy who defeats the protagonists, this is the first time in gundam history lol


I like the fighting scenes, lasers were overused in the past decade seriously, I feel good to see some good actions without having the lasers scream at me 'this is gundam this is gundam'. The reactions of the enemy soldiers are closer to real war emotions as well (at least they tried).


+ Show Spoiler +
I wanted Orga to win so badly, I truly hated Rustal. Mika died too, mad me sad. But im glad that it ended with a happy ending. Ride did Orga proud, still wished Julieta would have died in the end


Coming from the GS, GSD and Gundam 00, the fighting scenes were refreshing without having lasers shooting everywhere. Overall, I enjoyed the series.



Maybe you guys can put my mind at ease. When you guys say the fights are refreshing and what not, does that mean they get better after the first season? Or are they more or less the same? Because the first season was so insufferably boring I decided to just wait till IBO finished to watch the whole thing, and that hasn't happened to me with a Gundam since Gundam 00s2. I mean hell, I even followed Age weekly.

How far did you make it? I got up to a certain death before I got bored enough to drop s1. I don't know how s2 is, but the fights in s1 weren't exactly good. No beams is an interesting concept if they put in the time and effort to choreograph fights, but offhand I can't remember a single one. It also didn't help that they were stuck in space Namek for far too long.
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April 04 2017 04:33 GMT
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On April 04 2017 11:34 Lackbleeder wrote:
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On April 04 2017 10:50 BigFan wrote:
On April 04 2017 10:38 Lackbleeder wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ Shinsekai Yori] +
Just finished Shinsekai Yori and it was amazing, this show nailed absolutely everything (characters, setting, pacing, themes, etc etc). I was hesitant to watch it initially because I was spoiled on queerats being "humans", something I thought was the big twist, but it actually made me enjoy the show more knowing that. It was also foreshadowed very frequently over the course of the show so i'm guessing you were expected to think something was up anyway.

The conflict was interesting in the sense that we don't usually see dystopia stories primarily through the eyes of the oppressors rather than the victims wich was a nice change of pace. Still almost all characters did truly despicable things for understandable reasons so there's not really such a thing as good or bad in this scenario (as it should be).

It's ironic considering the main reason why I started watching this show over others was because I needed more HDD space and SSY was 40 gigs but now I'm hesitant to delete the files lol.

Glad you enjoyed it. I loved the show when I watched it. Here's what I wrote at the time:
On June 27 2015 01:46 BigFan wrote:
Shinsekai Yori: + Show Spoiler +
When we knew about their child being under the control of the queerats, we knew that they had to dead or at best, somehow alive and mind control or something. What I really wanted to know is what happened? How did it get to that stage? We are never given that info. The whole igloo being destroyed, that was Maria's doing when she relocated with Mamarou but after that, did that other queerat convince them to stay at their place then when Maria gave birth, her cantus was at its weakest and Mamarou didn't have much in him so they easily overwhelmed them? Did they find them after they gave birth and that's when they attacked them both and took their child? Then you have the letter, it's definitely written by Maria but then, you can probably even try and wonder if it's a legit letter (seems to be to me) or if the queerats purposely wrote it (unlikely).

I could go on and on because as we saw, that child was what changed the whole war. True, the strategic and guerilla type warfare helped them greatly especially against the unprepared humans but beating the hornets in perfect fashion, killing a ton of people including Shirsei who was the strongest cantus user etc... accounted for a ton of fear that rendered humans helpless. Btw, guys, since I've seen this mentioned here, the child is not a fiend! Fiends would attack any and everything living, however, she was only targeting humans because she was raised to believe that she is a queerat from day one and had a death feedback if she killed one of them which is how they killed her in the end.

On the whole DNA topic, I gotta agree with whoever said that its good confirmation when you consider they also looked at dental records. I don't see why they can't do it especially given that Maria and Mamarou run away at the age of 14 then Tomoko said that when they would've been 26 (someone gave their child an age of 10 years so they would've been 17 at the time). There was more than enough to check the DNA and no time constraints with that timeline. Even if the age/gender bit was faked, there was still other evidence to back up the idea that it was them. I only thought that maybe she was lying because she wanted to avoid Saki getting disciplined or even gotten rid of, however, thinking back on it and the situation they were in, we know that Tomoko has always spoke of doing what's good for society.

I don't blame society for getting so mad at Squealer that they opted for the eternal hell punishment. My god, the pain must've been unimaginable. Likewise, I don't blame them for laughing at him when he said that he was human. Ignorance is bliss. What really pisses me off though is that it felt like their society completely closed itself off to previous human actions as in it didn't seem like they tried to teach their students any information about history but everything seemed to focus on doing what's best for society (fiend on bridge, cut rope or if karma demon, walk into a lake to die; makes sense why they did it though). I don't forsee any quick changes happening, at least, not until the people realize that queerats have a link to humans. It is really sad overall though. PK users suppress non-PK users by turning them into beasts so that they can easily use their cantus against them while maintaining their own rules of society. Makes me wonder just how many from the higher ups of society actually know about queerats have human origins.


Thanks for the post, it was a good read. I agree with most of the stuff you wrote but + Show Spoiler [SSY] +
The canti users turning humans into queerats was to avoid becoming defenseless against regular humans. Obviously I think mutating humans into beasts is unacceptable but their motives weren't evil. The attack prevention and death feedback systems being fundamentally flawed was the real problem imo.


No problem, hmm I guess that's one way of thinking about it. I still see it differently. + Show Spoiler +
Given, I watched this anime almost 2 years ago but I think it was more about suppressing them than anything else. Keep in mind how the queerats had to report to the PK users about their wars etc... If the whole thing was about making less troublesome to PK users (another way of what you're saying), they would've just left them be and monitored them from far but instead, they interfered directly in their society.
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Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1945 Posts
April 04 2017 05:30 GMT
#119539
I'm also trying to watch shinsekai yori.
People keep saying how good it is, but I've tried watching it on 4 separate occasions already, and have never gotten past the first 2 episodes

I was hoping this time would be different, because I decided I'd be determined to stick it out, but here I am again, 2 weeks later, still only seen the first 2 episodes - AGAIN.
I don't believe you.
ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
April 04 2017 05:34 GMT
#119540
I think Shinsekai yuri would be a fun show if you watch it backwards
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